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| 420.1 | mail order is a crapshoot....... | SALEM::LEBLANC |  | Fri Sep 02 1994 15:41 | 2 | 
|  |     brian bud
    you are in and THAT is all that matters......    
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| 420.2 | Yup,  Chris is right | MILKWY::HEADSL::SAMPSON | Driven by the wind | Fri Sep 02 1994 16:03 | 9 | 
|  | Yah that's the way it goes. I think they used to split the venue in half between 
mail order and ticketmaster. there are good seats and bad seats in both halves.
85 is better than the 93 I got for THursday. Anything is better than the 
stadium 20 I got last year. 
Mail order is a lot easier to get up for to get a good position in line. 
Geoff
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| 420.3 | youpays your money and takes your chances... | LUDWIG::DWEST | riding on Blaine the Mono... | Fri Sep 02 1994 16:05 | 19 | 
|  |     yes, you are...
    
    mail order is done lottery style... sometimes you win big (front row
    center)...  sometimes you just win (tix without service charges,
    waiting in line, paying scaplers or agency fees etc)...  and sometimes
    you just don't make it at all ("sorry, all tix were gone byt he time
    we got to your order")...  mail order is like life...  there are no
    guarantees...
    
    however, if you're still bummin', you can always try to trade them
    for something you might like better...  not to mention that there's a 
    big percentage of folks at deadshows that never sit in thier assigned
    seats anyway...  and there's always the ticketless horde that would
    love to buy it off you...
    
    in fact, if you don't want 'em, i'll take 'em...  (for face value
    of course :^)...
    
    					da ve
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| 420.4 | ps. | LUDWIG::DWEST | riding on Blaine the Mono... | Fri Sep 02 1994 16:07 | 6 | 
|  |     ohyeah... almost forgot...
    
    you still have your chance at the ticket agencies...  box office date
    is the 10th...
    
    					da ve
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| 420.5 | Ohhh. That's what I did! | MROA::HENDRICKX |  | Tue Sep 06 1994 22:29 | 8 | 
|  |       After sitting down and READING the literature, I found out why
    GDTS put me off for awhile. I was suppose to send $71.25 for two
    tickets and a registered return. I sent $71.50. Because I sent
    $.25 too much, they put my request aside and answered the "good"
    requests.
      I have to travel for a bit, but when I get back I may take you
    up on the "face value" suggestion.
    Brian
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| 420.6 | NEW GUY IN TOWN | COMET::MURPHY_T |  | Thu Sep 15 1994 10:18 | 1 | 
|  |     DUDE....WHO SITS IN A SEAT ANYWAY??
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| 420.7 |  | BIODTL::JC | don't criticize it | Thu Sep 15 1994 22:44 | 15 | 
|  | re                      <<< Note 420.6 by COMET::MURPHY_T >>>
>                              -< NEW GUY IN TOWN >-
>
>    DUDE....WHO SITS IN A SEAT ANYWAY??
not to flame you here mon, but, i'm one who usually sits in my seat.
yup, sometimes that means a lame seat, other times it is a good seat.
i always _hate_ it when i have a hot seat and the idiots next to me
try to put 5 people in 2 seats.  just crowds my space and it ain't
fair.  i never hesitate to tell people to split or shutup... guess
i'm just gettin' old...and, i like my space, espec. when the seat
is a hot one.
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| 420.8 |  | STOWOA::JOLLIMORE | More nerve than a bum tooth | Fri Sep 16 1994 08:01 | 4 | 
|  | 	I agree JC. I got 3rd row in BG. Before the show I will get to
	know those around me. If you don't belong there, don't show up
	there mid-show. I'll have you tossed. No hesitation. There's
	precious little room down there to begin with.
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| 420.9 | I am sure we ALL have done it once..:^) | SALEM::LEBLANC | ONE in 10,000 that come fer the SHOW | Fri Sep 16 1994 08:50 | 7 | 
|  |     JC and Jay
    i don't see anything wrong with going on a seat search and in the event 
    you do find one and are able to sit thru the whole show without the 
    actual owners coming by to claim it......ifthe actual owners do come
    by stub in hand you say "No problem, sorry to inconvenience you" and
    you go on your merry way...just my  $.37....
    chris
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| 420.10 | there's room enough for all of us with a little kindness,.... | LUDWIG::DWEST | riding on Blaine the Mono... | Fri Sep 16 1994 09:14 | 27 | 
|  |     
    Chris,
    
    you're probably right when you say that most of us have done that at
    shows...  there are so many people at a dead show up and dancing that
    there are always empty seats...  there have been times when i've sat 
    in as many as 6 or 8 different seats during the course of a show...
    when someone shows up who has a "claim" to that space and you bail
    immediately, no big thing...
    
    the problem is, not everybody is that considerate...  i've also had
    people push and shove thier way into my seat/row/section and damn near
    start fist fights...  it's not uncommon to have people take an
    attitude of "i don't care what your tickets says...  it's a dead show
    and i have as much right to sit here as you do"...  it's an obnoxious
    attitude that really puts people off and ruins the vibe for
    everybody...
    
    i have no issue with people who roam around and land in seatsthey don't
    have tickets for...  it's only those who don't show any kindness or
    consideration for others that cause the problems...  it's a big place
    and thre's usually room for all of us...  but as JC points out, just
    cuz a group of friends want to sit together doens't mean i should have
    to deal with 5 people in two seats and taking away from my own pleasant
    show experience...
    
    					da ve
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| 420.11 | If it ain't on yer ticket, ya ain't renting it... | SALEM::LEBLANC | ONE in 10,000 that come fer the SHOW | Fri Sep 16 1994 09:57 | 9 | 
|  |     -> just because 5 friends want to sit together
    totally agreed on that matter.....if they wanted to sit together
    they shoulda bought a block of tickets together.....
    anyways i have much more fun at shows doing a solo mission..you meet
    tons of new people and forge new friendships that way.......
    as said, a little kindness goes a long way
    chris
    ps is anybody as psyched as i am that we are gonna see the fat man and
    his cohorts in only a week and a half?
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| 420.12 | Don't have to tell anyone in front to sit down ;-) | QUARRY::petert | rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty | Fri Sep 16 1994 11:32 | 7 | 
|  | I know I'm sitting in MY seat for the Boston Garden show!!!  (Though I may
swing back to the taper section for a song or two via an arrangement
with a photographer friend of Mystery's (whom I haven't heard from
yet Jim, but there's still time))  The times I have "upgraded" my seat
were usually well after people were settled in place.
PeterT
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| 420.13 |  | NAC::TRAMP::GRADY | Into the night, an angel to be... | Fri Sep 16 1994 11:43 | 6 | 
|  | PeterT,
Mystery's probably in transit, coming back from out west.  I'm sure his buddy 
Mark will still be happy to swap seats to get a few pictures...
tim
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| 420.14 |  | GRANPA::TDAVIS |  | Fri Sep 16 1994 12:14 | 2 | 
|  |     I know I am getting psyched for 1 Philly, and 3 Landover's, and 
    real psyched the weekend is near.
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| 420.15 |  | STOWOA::JOLLIMORE | More nerve than a bum tooth | Fri Sep 16 1994 13:22 | 11 | 
|  | 	chris,
	
	what da ve said!!
	i've copped unclaimed seats before. sometimes i've stayed there
	the whole show cuz the owners never came. other times i've moved
	on when the owners came. my point was that i won't squeeze 25
	people into an 18 seat row, especially when it's the third row.
	
	;-)
	
	i'm psyched.
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| 420.16 | Sweatin' in SF today | ROMEOS::QUACKENBU_KI |  | Fri Sep 16 1994 17:01 | 12 | 
|  |     
    re: .14
    
    I'm psyched too! 
    
    I'm out of here in another 30 mintues to go see the boyz tonight at 
    the Shoreline. Won't be in the seats though....I'll be Deadersizin' 
    with 8,000 of my closest friends on the grass. And man, it's bakin' 
    hot weather in San Francisco today. Gonna be good.
    
    Kip
     
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| 420.17 |  | CXDOCS::BARNES |  | Fri Sep 16 1994 17:16 | 4 | 
|  |     lucky dog!! HAVE A GOOD TIME!!   %^)
    
    
    rfb
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| 420.18 |  | JUPITR::OCONNORS |  | Sat Sep 17 1994 08:48 | 6 | 
|  |     
     Hey Kip!
    
     how about a review, when you get back :-)
    
    Sean
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| 420.19 |  | COMET::MURPHY_T | DAZED AND CONFUSED | Mon Sep 19 1994 08:45 | 10 | 
|  |     hey i wasn't talkin about crowding people i just usually
    
    can't stay still at a concert....i go to the tape section 
    
    or walk around and talk to the people...
    
    
    dose??   dose???
    
    ;-)......
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| 420.20 | Quick Review 09/16 Shoreline Show | ROMEOS::QUACKENBU_KI |  | Mon Sep 19 1994 13:41 | 62 | 
|  |     
    Whew! The cobwebs are starting to clear! Ok Sean, here's a brief review of
    the show on Friday 9/16 at the Shoreline:
    
    Weather: ~85 and clear (a nice warm evening to boot!)
    Police Presence: Getting worse. They were crawling all over the parking
    lot, on foot & on horseback.
    Crowd: Excellent. Felt like a special homecoming even though the boyz
    were just here in July. Witnessed a few miracles....
    
    Set List:
    
    First Set
    
    Cold Rain & Snow
    ?? Bob Song (sorry, I was, ah, well, somewhere else... :-)
    Lazy River Road
    Black Throated Wind
    Stagger Lee
    NEW PHIL SONG! (better than Wave to the Wind but nowhere close to Box
    of Rain)
    Cassidy
    Deal
    
    Second Set
    
    Victom or The Crime
    Crazy fingers
    Estimated Profit (go Bob go)
    Space/Drums (brain food!)
    The Wheel
    This Could be The Last Time
    Good Lovin'
    
    Encore:
    
    Liberty  (a bit weak)
    
    Some general comments & observations:
    
    There were no big surprises, just an excellent show. First set was a
    bit low key until Cassidy, which was one of the best versions I've
    heard in a long time. Drums during space were particularly
    haunting...wow! Bob went nuts on Estimated Profit, very soulful. All
    the boyz were having a great time from The Wheel until the finish;
    laughing, alive, moving around (yes, even Jerry!) and to top it off, Bill
    was even caught singing to This Could be The Last Time! Big upgrade on the
    video screens from the July show; they've got some big, smokin'
    workstation doing unbelievable graphics now..very cool. Good
    marshmellow war - new twist...corn tortillas. As always, veggie burritos 
    were tasty. 
    
    They looked rested and ready to start the Fall Tour. Jerry looks great,
    dare I say almost svelte? I can't wait for the October return.
    
    That's it from the left coast. Have a great time at the BG shows ya'll.
    
    Miracles Do Happen!
    
    Kip
    
                 
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