Conference rdvax::grateful

      Marv, you would make a very enlightening political analyst.
      I to am a little bummed out about environmental problems that the
      earth is facing, much more so than the fear of America losing it's 
      competitive edge in the marketeering world. I mean like what good
      are super duper micro computers if you don't have a comfortable
      world for people to live in and use them. Maybe the micro thinkers
      will help us to save the globalsphere as well as help the economy.
      I think that we are at the ends of the ropes as far as technology
      goes and we need some more string(something new and big) to help
      us go up higher in the world. We truely need something mind
      blowing...........such as 6 shows at the Boston Garden ;^)
    
                                                            -Deane

Technology can only help us if it's applied in such a way as to help us, rather
than being used as a vehicle for making a profit.  I'm not really a spiritual
person, but I believe the fate of this world rests in the ability of its
people to become concerned about the welfare of the global community rather
than individual nations/states/companies etc.  Just as humankind had to progress
from family and tribe to larger social systems, in the past ....

- Dave

All I can say is that I'm glad to be alive in the age of the Grateful Dead. 
All else seems insignificant.

		Dave

    ahmen! esp. when there's a show for me tomorrow!!!!
                                                       rfb

re -1 tomorrow

tie dye - check
dancin shoes - check
party location - check
friends - check
ticket - check

all systems GO for a Denver party!!

    
    RE.-1
    
    all of the former plus a ride to and from and a place to lay my head
    after the show.
    
     Sold my truck last week and all i have is my scooter no way am i going
    to jump on that after a show and try and stay on 2 wheels....
    
     Don't forget money....
    
    
    Divide Dave
    
    

Back to the topic...

A long time ago, I saw U2 (few years before the popularity wave)... and one 
profound thing that has stuck in my mind is what bono said, "maybe someday,
we'll all live under the same flag."

Interesting concept I think.  When voting time strolls around, just vote
for the guy you think is going to do the best job... 

like i said a while back, the economy in mass has a ways to go before we'll
be able to kick back again...

jc

there was a guy from DRI (which I think stands for Data Research, Inc & is a 
division of McGraw-Hill) on NPR this morning talking about recession and 
recovery. Their estimates are that the recession has or is about to bottom out 
but recovery is geographically dependent. He said that the midwest could 
recover in a year but they don't see the northeast making a full recovery for up
to 5 years. 

Not exactly the ol' morning pick-me-up

    overheard:
    
	"New unemployment figures [are whatever]... ...the 25 year 
    old heavyweight champion of the world... ...a multi-media event 
    features jump-roping and children's rap poems on homelessness... 
    ...some people are really into Jerry Brown... ...10.5% of the planet's
    most productive soil is seriously damaged by human activities...
    ...expert who isn't sure if ignorance or carelessness lead to selenium 
    concentration in California's Kesterson Resevoir knows that "ahh
    there is ahh large scale ahh farming  ahh going on in America ahhh
    and ahh it ahh isn't ahh responsible ahh for this ahh degradation 
    of ahh soil (goes on to quote ahh noble ahh prize winning ahh green 
    ahh scientist ahh from ahh India ahh who ahh says that this is ahh 
    really complex ahh ahh problem). Illegal migration [by people who 
    venture into the rainforests to find a new life, clear cutting as 
    they go] is a factor [What's going on here?  ...walk a mile for a 
    Camel, ...wack away at the rainforest to get out of this place],...  
    ...people who loose hope are responsible....  Greed is[isn't?] a factor...
    ...Preservation of the soil is key[ and for a small fee...] ...A 
    heck-of-a-acre is a couple of acres...  ..Plant trees... ... with 
    room between them[for who's what?]...  ...It's not a lack of technical 
    knowhow, its a lack of political will..."  [sounds like the all-to-common 
    Expert-Says-Things-Incredibly-Misleading-And-Trys-Extraordinary
    Deceptions Putting-Responsibility-On-Persons-Helpless-Enslaved-Trapped  
    syndrome]   
    
    estimated prophet: A person who's insight is important enough
    to be recognized as expert opinion as a means of contolling
    the �A
    It's a problem of getting countries with very different cultures and
    standards, and ideas to work together...
    
    Who cares, our land is better off and we're doing fine...
    
    The message is seeming to be heard and ... this really could be turned
    around in twenty years...  
     

Life's a circle, not a slope.

    re; -.1
    
    Yep,  things get around.
    
    When an "expert" has something important to them, personally,
    on the line, which is usually the case, the real knowledge 
    they have will likely remain hidden.  
    
    For example:  It doesn't take a genius to figure out the
    effects of poisoning that will occur if you take x thousand 
    pounds of selenium, and spread it all over the San Jouquin
    Valley, and then make a concerted effort to flush it all into 
    a concentrated collection basin because you want to be sure 
    very little of it gets into the drinking water supply.
    
    My point is just that there are a lot of "projects" being
    run where the risks are far better understood than we might
    be lead to believe.  
    
    "Gee, we never expected that to happen."