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Conference 7.286::defense_issues

Title:	Hawks 'n Doves 'n Everybody
Notice:	Veteran's Day: 11 Nov and Every Day
Moderator:	CIMCAD::PIERSON

Created:	Wed Mar 05 1986
Last Modified:	Wed May 28 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	960
Total number of notes:	20968

651.0. ""The Setting Sun"..the end in the Pacific.." by MCIS5::MCDONOUGH () Tue Jul 31 1990 07:32

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
651.1	Not Needed	MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Tue Jul 31 1990 07:34`	55
651.2	No argument with "NEED"...just shortened the war..	MCIS5::MCDONOUGH		`Tue Jul 31 1990 09:21`	54
651.3	Bomb Not Needed for early termination of the War	MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Tue Jul 31 1990 09:45`	61
651.4		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Tue Jul 31 1990 10:55`	56
651.5		MAMIE::KEITH	Real men double clutch	`Tue Jul 31 1990 11:33`	22
651.6		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Tue Jul 31 1990 12:12`	27
651.7	Sorry, I lost you.....	MAMIE::KEITH	Real men double clutch	`Tue Jul 31 1990 12:40`	30
651.8	More factors...	MCIS5::MCDONOUGH		`Tue Jul 31 1990 12:47`	53
651.9		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Tue Jul 31 1990 13:24`	81
651.10	Hirohito's speech...	MCIS5::MCDONOUGH		`Tue Jul 31 1990 14:04`	62
651.11	I'd like to read some reference material	WILKIE::OLOUGHLIN	The fun begins at 80!	`Tue Jul 31 1990 14:06`	23
651.12	Looks like the Japanese REJECTED peace overtures..	MCIS5::MCDONOUGH		`Tue Jul 31 1990 14:59`	104
651.13	GOOD GRIEF!! I GOOFED!!	MCIS5::MCDONOUGH		`Tue Jul 31 1990 15:01`	5
651.14	Bomb Lengthened War	MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Tue Jul 31 1990 15:24`	72
651.15	Japanese Government Offered Surrender	MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Tue Jul 31 1990 15:48`	24
651.16		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Tue Jul 31 1990 16:13`	49
651.17	underlying motives for use?	HYDRA::MCALLEN		`Tue Jul 31 1990 18:39`	41
651.18	No matter what...you MUST be right!!	MCIS5::MCDONOUGH		`Wed Aug 01 1990 08:00`	145
651.19		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Wed Aug 01 1990 08:20`	99
651.20		FLDSVC::STERLING	Aye matey shiver me timbers!	`Wed Aug 01 1990 09:08`	14
651.21		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Wed Aug 01 1990 10:39`	121
651.22		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Wed Aug 01 1990 10:57`	24
651.23		SSBN1::YANKES		`Wed Aug 01 1990 11:15`	25
651.24		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Wed Aug 01 1990 12:14`	12
651.25	Continue the march...	LEDS::HORSEY		`Thu Aug 02 1990 15:24`	32
651.26	A preview of things to come....	MCIS5::MCDONOUGH		`Fri Aug 03 1990 07:10`	26
651.27		MYCRFT::PARODI	John H. Parodi	`Fri Aug 03 1990 07:36`	22
651.28		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Fri Aug 03 1990 07:46`	13
651.29		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Fri Aug 03 1990 07:53`	26
651.30	Puzzling enigma..."right" or "insane"???	MCIS5::MCDONOUGH		`Fri Aug 03 1990 07:57`	15
651.31	We seem to be on different tracks....	MCIS5::MCDONOUGH		`Fri Aug 03 1990 09:07`	49
651.32		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Fri Aug 03 1990 10:15`	56
651.33	Next week...	MCIS5::MCDONOUGH		`Fri Aug 03 1990 12:31`	47
651.34	Those were NOT the "good old days"....	MCIS5::MCDONOUGH		`Fri Aug 03 1990 12:53`	29
651.35		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Sat Aug 04 1990 05:22`	28
651.37	Regardless of why we used it...	SSBN1::YANKES		`Mon Aug 06 1990 10:24`	8
651.38		ROULET::RUDMAN	Always the Black Knight.	`Mon Aug 06 1990 12:24`	31
651.39	First, the tail-end of my WWII Chronology	ROULET::RUDMAN	Always the Black Knight.	`Mon Aug 06 1990 12:26`	167
651.40		FLDSVC::STERLING	Aye matey shiver me timbers!	`Mon Aug 06 1990 13:30`	9
651.41	Secondly, some thoughts	ROULET::RUDMAN	Always the Black Knight.	`Mon Aug 06 1990 13:51`	87
651.42		MAMIE::KEITH	Real men double clutch	`Tue Aug 07 1990 05:54`	18
651.43	There WERE two more bombs ready....	MCIS5::MCDONOUGH		`Tue Aug 07 1990 08:30`	35
651.44	More proof of "shortening war and saving lives".	MCIS5::MCDONOUGH		`Tue Aug 07 1990 08:45`	33
651.45		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Fri Aug 10 1990 09:27`	19
651.46		TJB::WRIGHT	Anarchy - a system that works for everyone....	`Fri Aug 10 1990 12:16`	12
651.47	let's just rewrite history	AIMHI::ALGER	Beaten Paths are for Beaten Men	`Wed Aug 15 1990 10:32`	26
651.48		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Wed Aug 15 1990 11:40`	40
651.49	I still believe we SHOULD have dropped them!!	MCIS5::MCDONOUGH		`Wed Aug 15 1990 12:52`	69
651.50		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Wed Aug 15 1990 13:17`	39
651.51		AIMHI::ALGER	Beaten Paths are for Beaten Men	`Wed Aug 15 1990 13:33`	32
651.52		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Wed Aug 15 1990 14:37`	48
651.53	a perspective	BIGUN::SIMPSON	PC Integrator From Hell	`Wed Aug 15 1990 20:55`	17
651.54	Here's Winston and Stimson...	MCIS5::MCDONOUGH		`Thu Aug 16 1990 08:23`	46
651.55		AIMHI::ALGER	Beaten Paths are for Beaten Men	`Thu Aug 16 1990 10:19`	40
651.56		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Thu Aug 16 1990 13:44`	53
651.57		AIMHI::ALGER	Beaten Paths are for Beaten Men	`Thu Aug 16 1990 14:39`	19
651.58		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Thu Aug 16 1990 18:42`	16
651.59		VOLVO::REED		`Fri Aug 17 1990 06:55`	20
651.60		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Fri Aug 17 1990 08:41`	25
651.61		VOLVO::REED		`Fri Aug 17 1990 11:37`	15
651.63		MIPSBX::thomas	The Code Warrior	`Thu Aug 23 1990 12:26`	3
651.64	I'm Confused	MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Thu Aug 23 1990 14:22`	31
651.65		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Thu Aug 23 1990 14:38`	51
651.66	SS$_RATHOLE yet?	SSBN1::YANKES		`Thu Aug 23 1990 14:50`	9
651.67	Truman was NOT the one who made all decisions..	MCIS5::MCDONOUGH		`Thu Aug 23 1990 15:03`	39
651.68	Not the purpose of this note...	MCIS5::MCDONOUGH		`Thu Aug 23 1990 15:20`	12
651.69	US dropped leaflets on nuked cities	LILAC::ZORE	I'm the NRA!	`Fri Aug 24 1990 06:31`	13
651.70	My 2�	CLOSUS::J_BUTLER	USAR...and ready...	`Fri Aug 24 1990 06:40`	41
651.71	reply to .69	BRABAM::PHILPOTT	Col I F 'Tsingtao Dhum' Philpott	`Fri Aug 24 1990 06:42`	16
651.72	Still believe the bomb shortened war/saved lives..	MCIS5::MCDONOUGH		`Fri Aug 24 1990 07:21`	46
651.73	Lets not be hitler-like now :-)	MORGAN::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Sat Aug 25 1990 11:09`	56
651.74		WOODRO::KEITH	Real men double clutch	`Mon Aug 27 1990 06:12`	29
651.75		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Mon Aug 27 1990 11:01`	74
651.76		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Mon Aug 27 1990 11:16`	0
651.77	Did I say that?	VOLVO::REED		`Mon Aug 27 1990 12:10`	24
651.78	NO regrets>!!Now let's nuke Saddam!!!	MCIS5::MCDONOUGH		`Mon Aug 27 1990 12:43`	48
651.79	??	WOODRO::KEITH	Real men double clutch	`Mon Aug 27 1990 13:36`	41
651.80		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Mon Aug 27 1990 13:50`	84
651.81		NETCUR::REID		`Mon Aug 27 1990 13:55`	7
651.82		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Mon Aug 27 1990 14:07`	39
651.83		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Mon Aug 27 1990 14:23`	78
651.84	POWs not Japanese	POBOX::DENCS		`Mon Aug 27 1990 14:50`	3
651.85		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Mon Aug 27 1990 15:28`	10
651.86		BRABAM::PHILPOTT	Col I F 'Tsingtao Dhum' Philpott	`Tue Aug 28 1990 04:14`	39
651.88	Several points and few facts...	CIMNET::PIERSON	Light Fuze. Retire Quickly	`Wed Aug 29 1990 17:30`	88
651.89	Obviously unbiased?	WOODRO::KEITH	Real men double clutch	`Thu Aug 30 1990 05:44`	19
651.90	Joe Stalin WAS at trinity....just not in person..	MCIS5::MCDONOUGH		`Thu Aug 30 1990 07:45`	21
651.91		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Thu Aug 30 1990 08:45`	86
651.92		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Thu Aug 30 1990 08:54`	28
651.93		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Thu Aug 30 1990 08:56`	17
651.94	it ain't that easy!	VOLVO::REED		`Thu Aug 30 1990 09:42`	16
651.95		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Thu Aug 30 1990 10:05`	40
651.96		WOODRO::KEITH	Real men double clutch	`Thu Aug 30 1990 10:37`	67
651.97	Japan didn't think we had the SECOND bomb...	MCIS5::MCDONOUGH		`Thu Aug 30 1990 10:58`	19
651.98		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Thu Aug 30 1990 11:17`	34
651.99	re .97	MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Thu Aug 30 1990 11:27`	30
651.100		WOODRO::KEITH	Real men double clutch	`Thu Aug 30 1990 11:59`	45
651.101		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Thu Aug 30 1990 12:16`	30
651.102		VOLVO::REED		`Thu Aug 30 1990 12:26`	59
651.103	Not really.. I'd still drop 'em!	MCIS5::MCDONOUGH		`Thu Aug 30 1990 12:51`	78
651.104		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Thu Aug 30 1990 12:56`	14
651.105		FLDSVC::STERLING	Aye matey shiver me timbers!	`Thu Aug 30 1990 13:17`	15
651.106	I have read it and NOT been convinced	WOODRO::KEITH	Real men double clutch	`Tue Sep 04 1990 05:35`	24
651.107		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Tue Sep 04 1990 07:26`	6
651.108	Truman used the A-bomb leverage, I think...	LEDS::HORSEY		`Tue Sep 04 1990 12:06`	4
651.109		WOODRO::KEITH	Real men double clutch	`Tue Sep 04 1990 12:36`	9
651.110	Radio...	LEDS::HORSEY		`Tue Sep 04 1990 15:14`	2
651.111	I've heard it, but never verified it...	MCIS5::MCDONOUGH		`Wed Sep 05 1990 09:39`	18
651.112	WWII transhipments	HYDRA::MCALLEN		`Wed Sep 05 1990 10:59`	18
651.113		STRATA::RUDMAN	Always the Black Knight.	`Wed Sep 19 1990 11:26`	33
651.114		VOLVO::REED		`Thu Sep 20 1990 07:38`	21
651.115	They got rid of them!	WILKIE::KEITH	Real men double clutch	`Thu Sep 20 1990 12:33`	10
651.116	Operation "Zipper".....	JAWS::MCDONOUGH		`Thu Oct 04 1990 10:58`	17
651.117		MEMIT::SCOLARO	Loren Marie - born 2/2/90	`Thu Oct 04 1990 13:13`	3
651.118	Timeline Show	DC101::SCOLARO	Tardis Del., When it has to be there Yestdy.	`Mon Feb 11 1991 14:45`	37
651.119	One good rational for using the bomb	KBOT03::ARMSTRONG	Artifishal Entelgenz	`Tue Feb 12 1991 03:01`	9
651.120	They would have fought to the last man	MUNSBE::PAGE	Mrs Page to you...	`Tue Feb 12 1991 04:50`	5
651.121	The Japanese were already ready to surrender	DC101::SCOLARO	Tardis Del., When it has to be there Yestdy.	`Tue Feb 12 1991 07:46`	7
651.122		CISM::MORAN	When Money Speaks The Truth is?	`Wed Feb 13 1991 08:59`	21
651.123	Perhaps a brand new rationale ...	SAHQ::SOWER		`Wed Feb 13 1991 09:47`	27
651.124	They knew nothing about A-bombs	SOLVIT::KEITH	Real men double clutch	`Wed Feb 13 1991 10:47`	32
651.125	Invasion of Japanese mainland	EREMO::BULLARD		`Wed Feb 13 1991 11:48`	4
651.126	Japan was ready to Surrender	DC101::SCOLARO	Tardis Del., When it has to be there Yestdy.	`Wed Feb 13 1991 12:05`	21
651.127	yet another 'justification'	SAHQ::SOWER		`Wed Feb 13 1991 12:19`	8
651.128		CISM::MORAN	When Money Speaks The Truth is?	`Wed Feb 13 1991 12:26`	24
651.129	I don't think there's any disagreement at all	SAHQ::SOWER		`Wed Feb 13 1991 14:01`	11
651.130		SOLVIT::KEITH	Real men double clutch	`Wed Feb 13 1991 16:58`	16
651.131	re .130	DC101::SCOLARO	Tardis Del., When it has to be there Yestdy.	`Thu Feb 14 1991 09:24`	38
651.132	Time line	STRATA::RUDMAN	Always the Black Knight.	`Thu Feb 14 1991 11:40`	178
651.133	RE .131 - what condition was that?	SAHQ::SOWER		`Thu Feb 14 1991 14:06`	1
651.134		CIMNET::PIERSON	Light Fuze. Retire Quickly	`Thu Feb 14 1991 16:43`	49
651.135		SOLVIT::KEITH	Real men double clutch	`Fri Feb 15 1991 10:44`	20
651.136		DC101::SCOLARO	Tardis Del., When it has to be there Yestdy.	`Fri Feb 15 1991 11:18`	46
651.137	we disagree	SOLVIT::KEITH	Real men double clutch	`Fri Feb 15 1991 16:28`	103
651.138	Re .137	DC101::SCOLARO	Tardis Del., When it has to be there Yestdy.	`Mon Feb 18 1991 07:56`	56
651.139	Definately a Target Date ....	DC101::SCOLARO	Tardis Del., When it has to be there Yestdy.	`Mon Feb 18 1991 08:05`	24
651.140	do you have a highly reguarded source?	SOLVIT::KEITH	Real men double clutch	`Tue Feb 19 1991 06:00`	59
651.141	Morrison Supporte My Side ....	DC101::SCOLARO	Tardis Del., When it has to be there Yestdy.	`Tue Feb 19 1991 08:21`	39
651.142	????????	SOLVIT::KEITH	Real men double clutch	`Tue Feb 19 1991 08:36`	16
651.143	A Political Decision	DC101::SCOLARO	Tardis Del., When it has to be there Yestdy.	`Tue Feb 19 1991 09:37`	35
651.144	I really shouldn't do this, but...	STRATA::RUDMAN	Always the Black Knight.	`Tue Feb 19 1991 11:26`	4
651.145		VOLVO::REED		`Tue Feb 19 1991 12:31`	16
651.146	A Casualty Estimate	CIMNET::PIERSON	Desert Storm: Done Right, Done now	`Mon Mar 25 1991 06:48`	48
651.147	On History	CIMCAD::PIERSON	I am the NRA	`Mon Jul 26 1993 15:59`	15