Conference mr1pst::music

    I missed last years GREATWOOD SHOW......but woul deffinetly like to see
    this years.......strange combo .....Dylan and Carlos.....can't figure
    that one out
    
    hornet
    
    

    I liked a lot of his earlier stuff, and of recent releases I think
    Blues for Salvador is superb....but I bought Spirits Dancing in the
    Flesh and was disappointed (despite the guest appearance of Vernon
    Reid, another great - in a different vein- guitarist) - what's Milagro
    like?
    
    Andy

	Re .1  I have my ticket SEC 3  Row CC. 
               I haven't missed a show the last 4 times he has been here.

	       I'm not real crazy about Dilan but maybe I'll like him better 
		live.

	Re .2  I liked Milargo But I also liked Spirits. 
	       If I had to choose between the two I like Spirits better.



						Regards,

						Steve Bo.

    Hey, you guys maybe have old copy of SANTANA and BUDDY MILES playing in
    the volcano......early 70's......without Dylan......
    
    

	I don't have one.
	But every time I pass a record store I check for that CD.
	I'll keep you posted when I find one.






						Steve Bo.

> strange combo .....Dylan and Carlos.....can't figure that one out

Carlos actually played guitar on one of Bob Dylan's live albums - 'Real Live' 
I think it was, back in the mid-80's. So they go back a ways.....

alan

    Hi,
    
    Here to tell you all that Santana will hit the streets again soon.
    A good friend of mine named Nico Nibbering works for the groups crew
    as sound man and he will be off as from the 30th of june next for 
    about 6 weeks.
    
    If you like I will keep track of him and ask him to report me the 
    inner info on whats happening ok. I'll ask.
    
    ;) Jan.

    
    Jan. that would be a very cool thing to do.......would be nice to hear
    whats happening on the summer 93 tour from the front lines...
    
    what do you folks think?
    

	Ya Jan that would be great!!!!!

	Does anybody know if Dilan will be appearing with Santana at every 
	concert or just here at Greatwoods??


							Steve Bo.

    I believe they're touring together the whole summer.  I have tickets to
    see them at Jones Beach (Long Island, NY) and they're also playing in
    the Garden State Arts Center.
    
    This and Steely Dan are the two concerts I'm most looking forward to -
    it's like a dream come true.  So many of my fav's in one summer!
    
    Dylan & Santana together on the same bill is very interesting given
    their diverse styles and audiences.  I really like this mix!
    
    Regards,
    
    Fredda

    RE on a few notes
    
    Yup, Dylan will be suporting the acts. A nice touch during the tour
    will be a show dedicated to John Coltrane(the jazz monster ;))
    Just before Carlos hits the streets he heard from the owners(family)
    of John Coltrane his material that Carlos is alowed to use it all 
    in his own respective way. So Carlos has opted a special concert to
    honor John and his music which will be held in Entibe(sp?) France on
    the 24th of july.
    
    Nico(head techn. of all keyboard equipment) projects that it will be
    a smash tour this year. I will hear more from him and Bill Stern at
    later stage, I'll keep you guys posted ;^))
    
    Jan.
    

	Any new news about how the tour is going??

 	Who plays first Carlos or Dylan?

	Are they playing together at all?

	Any Idea about how long the show runs?

   	Set List????


					Regards,

						Steve Bo.

	Hi All,

		Well I saw the show last night here at Greatwoods and the 2nd
	half was fantastic.

		First up was a Reggae? (sp) band called Shark Attack I think.
	Nothing special your basic Reggae stuff.

		Then Bob Dylan come on to a thunderous ovation but when he 
	started to sing I couldn't understand much if any of what he was saying.
	Not being a Dylan fan to begin with and not being familiar with the 
 	words didn't help any. I didn't recognize any of his songs but again 
	I'm not a Dylan fan. I liked his band though.

		Last up was Santana. The initial responce was not as big as
	that for Dylan But by the time he finished his first tune (Spirits
	Dancing in the Flesh) the sections in front of me were on there feet
	and didn't sit down for the entire set. I was in the last row of section
	3. The only slow point in the Santana set was the Bass solo It seemed 
        to take too long to get going.

		All in all I had a good time. I'm glad that Dylan was up first
	because had he been up last I would have sat through his set hoping 
	for the two of them to jam at the end and when that didn't happen I
	Would have been BULL.

		I would like to hear from some Dylan fans who were there and
	find out how this show compaires to others.

		RE: .4  I was able to find the Santana, Buddy Miles casette
	If your still interested.


						Regards,

						Steve Bo.

 

>	Then Bob Dylan come on to a thunderous ovation but when he 
>	started to sing I couldn't understand much if any of what he was saying.
>	Not being a Dylan fan to begin with and not being familiar with the 
> 	words didn't help any. I didn't recognize any of his songs but again 
>	I'm not a Dylan fan. I liked his band though.

    What a relief. I thought it was me. I was blaming my English not
    being able to understand what he was saying up on stage. I saw Bob
    Dylan a couple of years ago and I could only recognize the songs after
    he was halfway thru. And even after that, I couldn't understand the
    lyrics.
    
    Lale

    
    Doesn't he (Dylan) do those "This is your brain on drugs ..." commercials ?
    He'd be the perfect spokesman :^)
    
    Lv
    
    

    
    Sorry for the micehole within the rathole but looking at Eric Clapton
    and Bob Dylan, I am thinking, they must have used different dosage.
    Clapton seems to be in great shape whereas Dylan ... I'll never
    forget how he made a fool out of himself on Grammy awards a few
    years back.
    
    Btw, we have an ad here that goes like this:
    
    	This is your brain:
    
    	     DIGITAL
    
    	And this is your brain on drugs:
    
    	     SUN SYSTEMS
    

    I saw Dylan in concert back in May of '92, in San Jose, and he was
    actually in pretty good shape that night.  Well, voice-wise anyway.  He
    does look awfully old, but as I said about Mick Jagger in another note,
    at least he still has his hair, and he's thin, and how many men over 50
    can say that?  :-)   His face looks real old, though, but, even among
    regular, ordinary, non-famous, non-rockstar mortals, some people age a
    lot faster than others.  It may be hereditary and might have little to
    do with drugs taken or not taken.
    
    And, regardless of what Dylan is or is not doing now, I will always
    love him for what he meant to me when I was young.  His music meant a
    lot to me back in the '60's when I was young, and nothing will ever
    change that.  He'll always be one of my heroes.
    
    Lorna
    

    If anyone has a schedule of future dates for the Dylan/Santana tour
    I would very much appreciate them posting it or dropping me a mail
    message.  Thanks very much.
    
    I was at the Great Woods show, and we didn't have any trouble
    understanding words, although leaning on the stage may have helped ;-}
    I saw Bob Dylan at Great Woods last year when he had a rock and roll
    screaming band with him for the whole show, and this year's show was
    _much_ better.  He played several acoustic numbers, and added a
    kick-ass drummer for his rockier numbers.  His repertoire included
    songs from throughout his career, and you could actually hear his
    guitar leads (I think hanging out with Carlos has done him a lot of
    good).  Dylan seemed to be projecting out into the crowd instead of
    ducking back into himself like he has a tendency to do.  
    
    Santana was fantastic ... they seemed to be breaking in a new drummer who
    seemed like just a kid (Rocky something??) but he did a fantastic job,
    and is clearly a natural talent.  The other percussionists were also
    great, and the two vocalists worked well in the band.  I agree that the
    bass solo took a while to take off ... he may have had a bit of trouble
    getting in synch with the new drummer. 
    
    Todd

	Thats correct the drummer was new to the band.

	I'm told by someone who knows a relative of the old drummer that
	he quit the band about a month ago, sighting creative differances.

	I guess Carlos can be pretty hard to get along with sometimes.
	And judging from the turnaround of band members over the years I'd
	say this may be true.

						Regards,

						Steve Bo.

re      <<< Note 441.16 by OTOU23::LALE "if you cut me, I bleed in blue" >>>
                 -< Clapton vs Dylan under Santana topic ;-) >-

>    Clapton seems to be in great shape whereas Dylan ... I'll never
>    forget how he made a fool out of himself on Grammy awards a few
>    years back.
    
I'm guessing that when Bob did that, he thought he was making fools of the
audience.

    re .20, yeah, that's what I think.
    
    Lorna
    

    YES you old SANTANA freeks over there ...
    
    
    ... we (that's my family here - ie wife and two kids 7 and 9) have just
    seen SANTANA playing their last world tour concert in
    BRISBANE/AUTRALIA.
    
    We had to cover some 3000km (or 1500miles for you guys) over a four day
    weekend to achieve that goal - BUT WORTH EVERY MILE !!!! (the big FORD
    did it easy but we were a bit "stuffed" after the return).
    
    I have seen SANTANA first time in 1972 over in ZURICH/SWITZERLAND but
    have meanwhile transferred to AUSTRALIA (some 10 years ago). I have
    tried never to miss a concert in EUROPE, but here in OZ it's a bit
    difficult at times.
    
    
    My little boy, himself learning to play the guitar himself, was pretty
    impressed with the performance.
    
    Problem was, they ran out of merchandise and there were no T-Shirts or
    anything left for the kids either - so they wre a bit disappointed.
    
    ANY OF YOU KNOW THE FANCLUB address ??
    
    I thought I could get in contact with Carlos to get some signed posters
    or so.
    
    
    

	RE: .22

	The address is:

	Santana International Fan Club
	P.O. Box 881630
	San Francisco, CA.  94188-1630
	USA

	There is a one time membership fee of $15.00.
	Payable by U.S. check or International Money order.

	As a member you will receive the Santana Band Newsletter,
	advance notice of concerts (when possible) and an order blank 
	for ordering special t-shirts and other souvenir items.

	The above was taken from the card I received from the club.

	I have my ticket for Greatwoods July 13th
	Sec 1  Row CC
	Santana and Robert Cray

	AHH...HUH..HUH.HUH  I'm there dude.

							Steve Bo.

    Steve ..
    
    ... I will do just what you recommend - no doubt about that !!
    
    Thanks
    
    
    
    werner

    Whoa, up 'till about 30 minutes ago I'd forgotten just how good -- no,
    great -- the first LP was. I was fortunate enough to have a great spot
    for their Woodstock set and that memory came back like an avalanche.

    Wavy gravy: ...Santana!
    me: (who?)
    .
    moments later
    .
    me: Oh!

    Shortly after the first album came out, I saw Santana at the Fillmore
    East in NYC.  I admit my memory of the event might be a little fogged
    by the time delay (and some other effects way back when), but the way I
    remember it, they came out on stage, played the album from beginning to
    end, note-for-note, and that was their show.  It was absolutely
    cosmic... the music was so gripping and they were so good.

	I'm looking for pointers to a Santana discography.
	I've searched the WWW and found very few Carlos web sites.
	
	Any help appreciated.
	
	Jay

I'm new to Santana's music.

Can anyone recommend some good CDs of theirs?

I have Zebop kicking around on LP somewhere.

Justin

    Abraxas, sp?, is a good start. Might as well start from the beginning.
    Great album with a couple of kickass songs as well.
    
    Jim C.
    
    

  I second "Abraxas" (though I suppose you could start at the very beginning
  with "Santana").  Others vouch for the (triple?) live one they did, which
  I haven't heard.  - Jay

                       <<< Note 441.30 by HELIX::CLARK >>>
>  I second "Abraxas" (though I suppose you could start at the very beginning
>  with "Santana").  Others vouch for the (triple?) live one they did, which
>  I haven't heard.  - Jay

I'll third this.....One of the best records ever made (well maybe a little
strong).

The triple live one - that's LOTUS and I'd hold off on that until I 
knew I wanted to spend the money...

bob

   I think "Moonflower" is one of the best albums to start with.  It's live,
   a double album, and shows off just how much Carlos is into sustain.  :-)

   -- Sam
   

   <<< Note 441.32 by SSDEVO::LAMBERT "M��se bytes can be verrry painful" >>>
                                -< Moonflower >-

>   I think "Moonflower" is one of the best albums to start with.  It's live,
>   a double album, and shows off just how much Carlos is into sustain.  :-)

Yea,  I'd have to agree with this one too.  I'd still get Abraxas first 
though just because it was such a great studio lp.  

HAve you heard Lotus?  It's a 3 LP live set with beautiful packaging
(I've heard it's out on CD but haven't seen it)  from the Sony-CBS label.

More experimental/jazzy/electronic...very nice.

bob

    
    I thought "Viva!" was a better 2-CD starting point than Moonflower.
    
    Like "Moonflower," "Viva!" isn't the perfect box-set, and it isn't
    exactly a greatest hits, but it includes some choicer cuts.  Plus
    the version of Soul Sacrifice on "Moonflower" is not as nice at the
    Woodstock version included on "Viva!"
    
    - Sean
    

    
    
     I have had Lotus on CD for several years now. Personally it is my
    least favorite Santana disk. I have not heard Moonflower, but I do
    have the "Live From South America" disk. It is much better than Lotus.
    I still love the first 2 that were released (Santana & Abraxas). You
    can't go wrong with either IMO.
    
                                    mike