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| 926.1 |  | NETCAD::FLOWERS | Hub Products Engineering; Dan | Mon Mar 27 1995 08:42 | 8 | 
|  | funny, my wife was just looking this up an a couple of the books we have...
One said to wait till 8 months, the other book said wait till 1 year.
(No mention of nursing; or at least my wife didn't mention it to me...)
I didn't think of asking her 'why?'.  But now you've got me curious...
Dan
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| 926.2 |  | BIGQ::MARCHAND |  | Mon Mar 27 1995 08:47 | 6 | 
|  |     
       I'm not 100% sure, but I recall something about the lungs. There's
    pollen in honey. If there's allergies or ashma these things can be
    triggered, or even encouraged.  
    
        Rosie
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| 926.3 |  | CSC32::P_SO | Get those shoes off your head! | Mon Mar 27 1995 08:48 | 7 | 
|  |     Honey contains a bacteria that can cause food poisoning to
    young infants.
    
    I think the the jist of what I was told.  I'm sure others
    will have more info though.
    
    Pam
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| 926.4 | botulism? | VIVE::STOLICNY |  | Mon Mar 27 1995 08:48 | 8 | 
|  |     Doesn't it have something to do with the fact that honey is not
    pasteurized?   I believe that there's potentially some sort of
    bacteria that an infant can't handle and/or the potential that
    an infant can get botulism.....sorry I don't have concrete 
    facts..
    
    
    cj/
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| 926.5 |  | CSC32::M_EVANS | proud counter-culture McGovernik | Mon Mar 27 1995 09:08 | 7 | 
|  |     cj is right, there is the potential of a form of botulism poinsoning in
    infants and the immune-system impaired from eating unpasturized honey. 
    This isn't a problem once the baby is over a year, (unless of course
    there is something else impairing the immune system, such as
    chemotherapy, HIV, or choronic infections of one sort or another.  
    
    meg
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| 926.6 | thanks | MTWASH::CLEMENT |  | Mon Mar 27 1995 11:32 | 5 | 
|  |     well, 
        Thank you for the information so far...but is there any info on the
    nursing part?? I would think that it is safe but one never knows....
    
                                                                     Mary
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| 926.7 |  | CSC32::M_EVANS | proud counter-culture McGovernik | Mon Mar 27 1995 11:45 | 10 | 
|  |     Hi Mary,
    
    I missed the second part of your question.
    
    Honey shouldn't be a problem for you eating it while nursing your
    child.  The spores that can produce botulism poisoning are a problem in
    an undeveloped digestive tract, they are not passed on through your milk, 
    as your older digestive tract will do away with them.
    
    meg
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| 926.8 | Botulism | SAPPHO::DUBOIS | Another day, another doctor | Mon Mar 27 1995 13:47 | 6 | 
|  | You probably don't need my additional affirmation, but since so many people
didn't know, I thought I would add that what Meg has written about botulism
with honey is correct.  After a year old, the baby's digestive system
is able to handle the honey so it is no longer dangerous to him/her.
   Carol, who heard this from *several* doctors  :-)
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| 926.9 | honey grahams... | CDROM::BLACHEK |  | Tue Mar 28 1995 10:04 | 6 | 
|  |     I knew that honey was a no no and have avoided anything with it for
    my kids.  I recently found out that my daycare gives the babies
    graham crackers with honey.  Does the processing/baking of the 
    crackers remove the risk of the honey?
    
    judy
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| 926.10 | honey grahams ok! | MPGS::HEALEY | Karen Healey, VIIS Group, SHR3 | Tue Mar 28 1995 10:14 | 5 | 
|  |     
    I asked our pediatrician about honey graham crackers.  Not a problem.
    It is just honey FLAVOR, not real honey.
    
    Karen
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| 926.11 |  | CDROM::BLACHEK |  | Tue Mar 28 1995 13:44 | 5 | 
|  |     
    Thanks.  I keep meaning to call mine to ask, and just never remembered
    until I saw this note.
    
    judy
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| 926.12 |  | BLAKFT::HEADLEY |  | Tue Mar 28 1995 15:03 | 4 | 
|  | Just FYI, the "no honey" rule applies to the elderly as well.  Sometime their
digestive tract cannot handle the botulism bacteria either.
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| 926.13 |  | UHUH::BNELSON |  | Tue Mar 28 1995 20:36 | 6 | 
|  |     The honey is ok if it is baked, as in muffins or whatever, so I think
    that would take care of commercially available baked goods also.  It is
    just unprocessed honey which can cause this particular form of
    botulism.
    
    Beryl
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