Conference moira::naturism

    Rich:
    
    Depends on the person, the time of year, etc., etc., etc..  If you've
    never done it before you may well feel a tinge of excitement when
    seeing someone (anyone for that matter) naked "in public."  However,
    and this is hard for the inexperienced to believe, shortly thereafter
    seeing just another body soon has less and less impact until you
    reach the stage that it becomes virtually unimportant.
    
    What IS important, however, is the freedom you feel at that instant
    when the event becomes unimportant.  I note that ladies no longer
    stare at the ground as they approach.  I note that people speak
    to each other freely.  I note that husbands and wives can talk to
    other husbands and wives with utterly no thought to body coverage.
    
    Believe it or not (and perhaps it is because of my age  ... I keep
    forgetting that I am at retirement age!) I seem to see human beings
    or persons.  Some are in the lady's package, some are in the man
    suit.  But within each there is a person.  A live, vibrant, fine,
    wholesome person.  That package serves its purpose of housing, in
    addition to that person, the mechanism to reproduce the race.  Each
    person has one kind of mechanism or the other.  
    
    The magic of it all is that, generally speaking, persons in one
    package are attracted to persons in the other package, fall in love
    and create families.  The magic of it all is that those same people
    can intermix with other families or persons without affecting the
    love between those who are truly in love.
    
    SO:  Go to the beach ... enjoy the kick out of starting the Naturism
    Experience.  Enjoy the tinge of embarrassment, the fling of seeing
    so many of the opposite sex all at once.  Enjoy the climb from the
    "Gee-Whiz" state to the beautiful, calm, and  free state as your
    being becomes accustomed to Naturism.  It's a great world out there.
    We need to love everyone in it.  We need to eliminate all the social
    differences (real and imagined) between persons and peoples.  We
    need to learn ... at long last ... what the true life values are.
     Definitely those values are not the peek-a-boo sex we see on TV, nor the
    drug culture that ravages our people, nor the thug upon thug kind 
    of governments we find everywhere.
    
    No ... it is the free intermixing of people, their cultures, and
    attitudes ... so we can climb the mountain of love and live together
    and make this world a far  more beautiful place than it is today.
    
    We were born naked.  I believe we must return to that state to get
    a better handle on what life is all about.  Once we learn that,
    it matters not whether we have clothes on or we don't.  What matters
    is that people love people, that people respect people, that people
    are male and female equally in any activity.  AND that people stop
    hating each other just because we always done it that way.
    
    Naturists Care, Naturists Share, and Naturists Share their Care.
     
    Come on it, the water's GREAT! 
     
    Stan/ 

    Richard,
    
    I must admit, that I've had the type of dreams that you mentioned,
    but it was a long time ago and before I ever went to a nude beach.
    For some reason, I don't think I'm capable of having that type of
    dream now.  Perhaps because I don't find being nude in public
    embarassing at all, my dreams would contain something that I *do*
    find embarrassing.  All dreams supposedly are symbolic of other
    things and don't necessarily suggest exactly what you are dreaming
    about.  I believe that dreaming of being nude in public and feeling
    embarrassed is symbolic of having "something to hide" and possibly
    being found out.  It's really the idea of being "exposed" - not
    being naked that's embarrassing.  Dreams like this are fairly common,
    I think.
    
    - Kathryn
    

    I don't usually remember my dreams but coincidently just last week
    I do remember dreaming about, sharing a shower in a public shower 
    room with a couple ladies.
    As I recall, the only thought I had was, I wonder, if they mind?"  
    I don't know what that means but since you asked....

    re: .3
      
         Perhaps I shouldn't say this but I somehow can't quite resist.
    Nearly ten years ago I was a member of "Getting In Touch", a massage
    school which also had a clothing-optional membership on 40 acres
    in the Santa Cruz Mtns.  It was and probably still is a very beautiful
    and serene place (although Getting In Touch ceased operating about
    5 years ago.)  In any case, I joined an optional "birthday fantasy
    club", which had as its premise doing whatever fantasy you had on
    your birthday.  Participation was strictly voluntary and you could
    have that fantasy fulfilled only if someone else would participate
    in it (obviously.)  Some people had group massages, some had food
    eaten off their bodies, etc., etc.  Since there was a taboo on 
    overt sex, clearly most of the stuff was harmless (considering
    the environment, etc.)  For overt sex, there was the option of
    renting a cabin and doing in private whatever people wish to do
    in private.  
         Well, my fantasy was to shower (or bathe) with as many women
    as I could, both to be bathed by them and to bathe them.  I had
    four women show up.  I don't know how much more I need to say, but
    I can say I had a couple of hours of great fun, until all the hot
    water was gone, anyway.
         I hope this adds a little more reality to your dream...it
    certainly was a "dream come true" for me at least once.
    
    Frederick
    

    re: Jay
    
        Well, actually I wouldn't mind doing this again, but strictly
    for science, you understand.  There is an element of fun, though,
    especially when four of *them* volunteer to scrub and lather poor
    little ole *me* without using their hands.  Sort of reminds me
    of jello, for some reason. 
        Actually, it was fun for everyone, as far as I could tell.
    And I found it very therapeutic.  :-) I have never since had any
    locker room nightmares, though I have had many locker room dreams
    similar to .0.  What this goes to show, though, is that fantasy
    and "reality" are not necessarily the same.  It is similar to what
    people think about nudity in that being clothed can sometimes be
    "sexier" (because it lends more to fantasy?) than being naked
    (when the "raw truth" is more obvious?).  "Sexiness" is a product
    of the mind, it is a context...being naked is only a form or a
    content; without the context it is meaningless.
    
    
    Frederick
    

    RE: .4
    
    What organization was this you belonged to? Sounds to me you died
    and went to heaven. OH,mister Roak, DEEplane,DEEplane.
    
    Phil