Conference moira::naturism

    Surely arousal is all a state of mind anyway.  Any nudist realizes
    that a clothed body may be more arousing than a naked one, because
    of the element of "mystery"; and this holds regardless of how well
    you know what's under the clothing. 
    
    There is an interesting anecdote somewhere in the REC_NUDE
    conference, where someone talks about drawing in figure classes.
    After a couple hours of nude modeling, the model would put on a robe
    to take a break, have a Coke, or whatever; and the author describes
    how all the old reflexes would come into play, finding it exciting
    to catch a glimpse of the cleavage of this woman that he had been
    seeing nude for the past few hours.
    
    This rings true to me.  Allure is *much* more complicated than just
    seeing a naked body.
    
    	-Neil 

    Yes, I think that seeing your SO nude around the house frequently
    generates an "it's no big deal" attitude toward seeing that person
    nude.  I don't think that's bad.  There is a lot more to making
    love than simply seeing a nude body, in spite of what Playboy tries
    to tell us.  There are all kinds of other physical and emotional
    things that come into play here.  Undressing is only a small part
    of that.  Taking nudity out of the picture causes all of these other
    things to come into focus.
    
    Elizabeth

>> ...after awhile, it "would be no big deal" to see the SO in the nude.
    
It usually isn't any big deal...but then there are other times...watch out!

To me it depends on what mood I'm in (and my SO) at the moment and WHERE we 
are at.  If we are in a "playful" mood, it is a BIG deal to see him naked!

I think it is great to be so relaxed and at ease about being around another 
person (SO or not) that you don't have to worry about bending over and 
exposing god-knows-what to others and not be embarrassed (OR harrassed) about 
it.  We used to nude with another couple while at each others house or while 
camping together.  It was just a relaxing, social time.  It was real nice.

I think you should spend whatever time you feel comfortable nude with your 
SO and not worry about losing the allure.  Society has fed too much of that 
BS to us.  Maybe that is why the smaller the bikini, the more enticing which 
BTW is most expensive.  Or the reason flimsy negligees are supposed to help 
us "get" our man...

After being married to Bob for 16+ years, I still find him exciting!  And we 
have always slept in the nude.  (I quit wearing night-clothes long before I 
left home...I don't think my mother could figure out why I never had any 
nightgowns to wash!) :-)

Judy

    Re .3 (Judy)
   
    >To me it depends on what mood I'm in (and my SO) at the moment and
    >WHERE we are at.  If we are in a "playful" mood, it is a BIG deal to
    >see him naked! 
    
    I think we are saying the same thing.  It is not just seeing your
    SO nude, it is the place, and the mood, and the emotions behind
    it.
    
    I am excited by my SO too.  If the mood is right, I may be excited
    no matter what he is wearing (or isn't wearing).  I don't think
    exposure necessarily has anything to do with the allure.  There
    is just so much more to think about!
    
    Elizabeth

    An old roommate of mine told me that he had gotten tired of going
    to the strip bars in his town because he realized that he had started
    ignoring the stripers and was always trying to look down the front
    of the waitresses' dresses when they bent over...amusing...
    
    Ben
    

    What's the ugliest part of your body?
    What's the ugliest part of your body?
    Some say your nose,
    Some say your toes,
    But I think it's your mind.
    						- F. Zappa