Conference misery::feline

    Jeff, 
    
    Since she was just spayed 4-5 months ago I would think it could
    be possible that her hormones are still going strong!!!  You
    might want to talk to your regular vet about this to see if it's
    normal.
    
    BUT..I have to tell you that my little female (her nickname is my
    little slut) was spayed over 4 years ago and on occasion she appears
    to have the symptoms of going into heat.   Such as...very loving,
    butt up in the air likes she's ready...and she chirps and teases
    the heck out of my non-fixed stray cat, Capone.  She drives the
    old man crazy.....and he follows her around like he thinks he's
    going to get it!!!  BUT..if you go near her butt...she'll bite
    your hand off!!!!!
    
    Sandy

    Perhaps it is just hormones that haven't gone quite away.  My many
    years since neutered male does a sort of pseudo-mounting behavior on
    one of my spayed females (and only her).  As far as I can tell, she
    doesn't entice him, he just chases her, straddles her back and holds
    onto the back of her neck.  That's it.  He more or less stands up while
    he does that, so it's not like he goes through the motions, other than
    the stand over her/grab her neck thing.  And he's never a) bred b)
    been around a female *in* heat, so it's some kind of left over innate
    behavior thing.  I guess.  Usually, he does this when she's running
    away from something (she runs from EVERYTHING, so...).  He kinda get
    this purposeful expression on his face and lopes after her.  Reminds me
    of Pepe Le Pew chasing the hapless little cat.  Maybe he thinks a
    scurrying cat is a sign of amourousness.  
    
    So if he does this, perhaps spayed females sometimes do the heat thing. 
    None of mine have (I have three females), but that's not to say others
    won't.  
    
    
    kim

    Maybe I can offer two things.
    Sometimes a spay can be incomplete and enough tissue can be left behind
    causing hormones to still be produced.  Hence, the posturing.  
    
    As for the neutered boy "hopping on and grabbing", that is how he shows
    he is the dominant cat.  It doesn't necessarily mean "breeding".  So if
    the little female runs away from him and he chases to do this, it is 
    an obvious form of domination!  (now where is the leather jacket and
    whip?!)
    sicker every day,
    Karen 8^)

    
    I have a question.  Where do you get a certificate for
    spaying/neutering?  My neighbor moved out and left her 4 month old
    kitten in the apt..  I took the kitten hoping to find a home for him as
    I already have 2 dogs, 1 cat and a child.  No such luck.  Now I have
    2 dogs, 2 cats , 1 child.  I don't mind at all but can't afford the
    vet bills.  My older dog has cancer and I'm in and out of the vets
    office all the time.  If I can get help with neutering the kitten it
    would help a great deal.  I live in Marlboro, Mass if that helps.
    
    thanks in advance
    deb
    

    
    Excellent, I got the number.  thank you
    
    deb
    

.3> Sometimes a spay can be incomplete and enough tissue can be left behind
.3> causing hormones to still be produced.  Hence, the posturing.  

	Well my girl who was in heat in Aug. (see .0) is in heat again,
	this time for a much longer period (today is day 7).  So I dug
	up the name of the vet that did the work (it was a F.O.A.) and
	the vet I talked to said it's most likely what .3 said, a little
	bit of tissue, probably the size of a pin head, was left behind.
	He said they will operate again for only $10 (the price of anathesia),
	but can only do it while she is right in the middle of a spell
	because that is when the hormones trigger that bit of tissue, and
	the piece will then be large enough to see.

	I personally don't believe they should charge anything seeing they
	are the ones who did an incomplete job, but seeing they are trying
	to charge me for the full operation again I'll do it.  The biggest
	pain will be going to Salam, NH (from Nashua) .....

	In the future I think I'll stick with felines of the male variety :-)

    I find it really interesting how "a bad experience" can turn a person
    off a certain sex of an animal.    I have personally had 2 neutered
    male cats who have had serious FUS problems.  So serious, that
    eventually, the only thing that could be done to keep them from being
    totally miserable was to have them Euthanized.  It was a lot of
    heartache coming to such a decision, but when you pick up your cat and
    he screams in pain from the fullness in his bladder due to blockage,
    and unfortunately there really wasn't much more the vets could do to
    help them out, they (the vet) determined that I had made the correct
    decision.   I was once told by a vet "as a matter of trivia" that in
    his own experience he has seen more male cats  that have been
    "neutered" that end up have serious FUS problems.   And fortunately, I
    have never had any of my female cats that have had the problem to test
    this theory.
    
    For the above reason, I have pretty much made a steadfast decision that
    I wouldn't get anymore male cats because I couldn't stand the heartache
    of possibly losing them to FUS.  
    
    I can understand your frustration  about the incomplete spaying, but I
    just wanted to point out that there can be complications no matter what
    sex of cat you choose.

    Or a different vet!