Conference misery::abc_soaps

    The ABC_SOAPS NOTES conference is located in Cupertino, California
    (UCF) on the WLDWST MI VAXcluster.  This conference should be available
    24 hours a day unless the VAXcluster is down for maintenance.
    
    Contributors to this conference should follow Digital Equipment
    Corporation's Policies & Procedures book.
    
    --Ron

    Hi Again,
    
    The introduction note is note number 2.  Be sure to go in there and
    enter your reply.  To reply to the introduction note, go to the note,
    and then type "ans" at the notes prompt.  That will make your reply one
    of the replies in the introductions topic rather than a whole new topic
    by itself.
    
    If you need any help with this, just send me mail and I will be happy
    to help out.  We also have a topic called "Technical Questions Answered
    Here".  You can check that one out if you need to know how to do
    something. 
    
    To get a listing of the different topics in this file, just type "dir"
    at the notes prompt and it will take you to the directory.  From there
    you can choose whatever note number you wish to read.
    
    Happy Noting,
    
    Jo

    Just a reminder.
    
    If you are having a problem with something in the file and would
    like a moderator's input/involvement, please send mail and copy
    all of us.  If you send to only one moderator it could happen that
    the person you send to may be busy and won't see the mail right
    away.  By sending to all 3 of us, you should be covered and get
    a quicker response.
                                              
    To find out who the moderators are and what their mail addresses
    are type SHOW MOD and hit return while you're in the file and a
    listing of of moderator usernames and node names will come up on
    your screen.  When you're done type control Z and the list will
    go away.
    
    Current VAXmail addresses for the moderators (these are subject to 
    change so be sure to do SHOW MOD):
    
    
    Jan Cordes		  SCRUZ::CORDES_JA   (this is changing in August)
                          JULIET::CORDES_JA  (beginning mid-August)
                                           
    Jo Ann Cordes Brown	  MUTTON::BROWN 
                          WR2FOR::CORDESBRO_JO
    
    David Chereton	  OYVEY::CHERETON
    
    
    Jan
    Moderator, ABC_SOAPS
    

    I've just been notified that my mail node will be changing effective
    5:00pm West Coast time tonight.  Please send mail to me at the
    following address after tonight.
    
    			JULIET::CORDES_JA
    
    Thanks,
    
    Jan

    Our system manager has recently commented on how active our file is 
    and how much space it takes up.  In the interest of being allowed to
    continue to have this notesfile reside on WLDWST, a cleanup is now in
    process.
    
    Our current system manager is also in the process of changing to a new
    job within the same group and I don't know who will be taking over 
    managing WLDWST.  This is another reason to reduce the size of the 
    file.  I don't want the next system manager to have a heart attack
    when he sees this file.  
    
    With a little luck and some assistance from the members of this file 
    in keeping un-soaps related chatter to a minimum, we should be okay.
    
    Jan
    
    P.S.  In case you're wondering, there will be some holes left by the
          notes that are being purged.  We apologize for any inconvenience
          this may cause.  However, if you feel the way we do, dealing with
          a few holes in the conference numbering is a small price to pay 
          for being allowed to continue having an ABC_SOAPS notesfile.

    Jo Ann and I have discovered just what a huge job we have taken on
    by promising to clean up ABC_SOAPS.  We're having to delete hundreds
    of notes, one note at a time (we haven't been able to find a method
    that works to allow us to delete a range of notes yet).
    
    We'd like all of you to help us keep ABC_SOAPS clean by making sure
    that when replies are posted that the bulk of the reply is ABC_SOAPS
    related.  If the discussion begins to evolve into a non-ABC_SOAPS 
    related discussion, please take it off-line to your mail account.
    SEND/AUTHOR is still an excellent way to reply to a note directly to
    the poster's mail account.
    
    Jan
    Moderator ABC_SOAPS

    
    As a moderator of other conferences it might be wise to archive this
    version and start another one, since it basicly goes day by day.
    
    I would strongly support this for this type of conference.
    
    If the moderators want to contact me for advice (I've been moderating
    for well over seven years) they are welcome to.
    
    
    -Peter

    Thanks for the offer of your advice and assistance with archiving.
    At least one of the moderators here has had recent experience with
    archiving a file so I think we'll be okay if we decide to go that
    route.
    
    Jan

    
    Jo and Jan:
    
    I will do ANTYHING to help keep abc_soaps!  Archiving sounds
    good....Womannotes does it all the time!
    
    Ask and you shall receive my help!
    
    
    Jackie
    
    P.S.  You two are doing a GREAT job!  My hat is off to you both!
    <

    Jackie, 
    
    Thanks for the offer.  The mods have discussed it and we don't feel
    that archiving is the best way to go with this file.  Since we're
    doing daily updates and chattering for the most part, it seems like
    wasted disk space to store this.  This would mean we would have this
    big old bulky file stored somewhere and we'd just be growing another
    big old bulky file in addition to it.  
    
    We will be leaving the history topics in tact so people can still
    reference stuff and we will be reducing the number of replies in the 
    other topics significantly (for example AMC has over 7000 replies so
    we may delete the oldest 3-4000 replies).
    
    Shows that are no longer on the air have been removed from the file.
    
    So far our system manager says he has seen a 10% reduction in file 
    size and we haven't even tackled the bulk of the stuff we were planning
    to delete.  
    
    I certainly appreciate all the offers of help I've received.  You guys 
    are great!  Right now, I think the main thing to do is to try to stick 
    to the main topics.  Chatter is still okay but the bulk of the note 
    should be about the topic/soap at hand.
    
    Thanks again, everyone, for all your support.
    
    Jan

    Kelly Burns' reintroduction note and Tracey Shalks' welcome back note
    have been moved to the Introduction topic.  Notes 2.195 and 2.196.
    
    Jan
    Moderator ABC_SOAPS
    

    Due to the upcoming extended absences of one or two of the moderators,
    we're going to be breaking in a temporary moderator to help cover the
    load.  Cheryl Acquafresca has graciously accepted our request to give
    us a hand for the next few months.  
    
    As before, if you have a question/issue requiring moderator assistance,
    please send mail to *ALL* of the moderators.  This will assure that your
    request is seen by whichever moderator is available instead of having
    your message sit in the mailbox of a moderator out on an extended
    business trip, vacation, or whatever.
    
    The mail addresses of the moderators are:
    
    Jan Cordes			JULIET::CORDES_JA
    
    Jo Ann Cordes Brown		MUTTON::BROWN
    
    David Chereton		OYVEY::CHERETON
    
    Cheryl Acquafresca		FSOA::CACQUAFRESCA
    
    
    
    Jan
    Moderator, ABC_SOAPS

    
    Welcome to Cheryl Acquafresca in her new position as a temporary 
    co-moderator for this conference!  Please give her a hearty welcome
    only NOT in the file --> we are comitted to saving every amount of
    disk space wherever we can find it.  Thanks for everyone's cooperation!
    
    --dc/Co-Moderator!
    

    Just want everyone to know that there are some severe problems with
    my ALL-IN-1 node right now.  I understand the estimated fix time is
    around noon (Calif. time) on Thursday (4/30).  So, if you need to send 
    mail to me in the meantime, please send to MISERY::CORDES_JA.
    
    Jan
    Moderator ABC_SOAPS

    Well, I don't have any definite information on when and where yet
    but I thought I'd give you all some advanced warning...
    
    ABC_SOAPS will be moving off of node WLDWST very soon.  Probably this
    week (Friday).  WLDWST is located in Cupertino, CA and that site is 
    schedule to close in June.  WLDWST will be shutting down on June 1st.
    
    When the time comes everyone will need to modify the ABC_SOAPS entry
    in their notes directory.
    
    The command will be:
    
    	Modify entry ABC_SOAPS/file=newnode::ABC_SOAPS
    
           (newnode will be defined very soon)
    
    I'll give you more information as soon as our system manager tells me 
    where our new home will be.               
    
    Jan
    Moderator, ABC_SOAPS

    Okay, this is the word on the ABC_SOAPS move.  On Friday 5/22
    afternoon the system manager and I will shut ABC_SOAPS down (this
    is Friday afternoon Calif. time so most of you East Coasters will 
    already be starting your weekend).  
    
    When ABC_SOAPS comes up again it will be located on node MISERY.  
    This may not be its final home but I'll let you know if/when there 
    is another change.
    
    Before you log in to ABC_SOAPS this weekend or on Monday morning
    you must remember to type the following:
    
    	modify entry ABC_SOAPS/file=MISERY::ABC_SOAPS
    
    at the NOTES> prompt.
    
    
    Jan

    ABC_SOAPS has been moved successfully to it's new home on the MISERY MI
    VAXcluster.  Welcome back!
    
    --Ron, the ghost moderator

    Thanks Ron and Jan.  The nodes name kinds of fits, huh??!!
    
    Cheryl

    We're all fixed now.  Let us know if you have any other problems
    getting into the conference.
    
    Cheryl

    Cheryl:
    
    I got in!  Thanks!  I love the new name "MISERY"!
    
    Jackie

    For the person who asked if there were time contraints placed on 
    this file since it moved, the answer is NO.  
    
    This file is located on a machine in Santa Clara, California.  We are 
    3 hours behind the east coast folks.  If there is a problem with the 
    file, we don't always know about it until we get in here and start 
    working.  I start at 9:00am California time, which is noon east coast 
    time.  That means you guys have had several hours to be frustrated with 
    a problem I'm just discovering.  Please bear with me, I'll do my best 
    to get things fixed as quickly as possible.  And, you can be sure that 
    Cheryl is trying her best to work the issue until the rest of us get here.
    
    Jan
    Moderator, ABC_SOAPS

    Here's the scoop I got from Jan on the System problem.  Hang in there,
    they're working the problem.
    _______________________________________________________________________
    
Node MISERY has a system disk problem.  I imagine that even if 
people are able to log in to ABC_SOAPS, they'll want to get out
as soon as possible 'cause the stuff that is up on MISERY is 
running in slo' mo' (translation:  slow motion).

Jan

    Well, I got a little note on my desk this afternoon telling me
    that ABC_SOAPS needs to lose some weight, actually LOTS of weight.
    We're at 70,000 blocks.  I called a system manager of another
    local conference that is pretty active and he tells me they're
    at 16,000 blocks.  So, I'll be doing some cleanup again.
    
    You shouldn't really notice a difference.  The notes I'll be
    cleaning up will be the older replies in the main topics and 
    some of the topics we're not using too much.  Also, I'll be 
    deleting some of the "personal dating" things that are past now.  
    The current stuff will remain and I won't touch the "history" 
    topics.
    
    It is really important that we take extra care with ABC_SOAPS
    now as it has been moved to a system that is a lot more visible.
    I want to be sure to do all the things the system manager requests
    so that we can keep this file going.
    
    Jan
    Moderator, ABC_SOAPS 

    Jan,  Sounds like you have a lot of work ahead of you, GOOD LUCK.
    Just a thought, but perhaps older notes should be cleaned out, say,
    once a quarter, including updates.  Also, we noters have got to help
    out by discontinuing entry of some of the very short banter-type
    replies (I'm as guilty of this as anyone else).  Let us know what we
    can do, if anything, to keep our beloved notesfile under control.

    One more thing that has been brought to my attention:
    
    The system manager has noted that there are people connected to 
    this file for hours at a time or for the entire day.  Please DO NOT
    log in to ABC_SOAPS and stay logged in for the day.  This does put
    an added strain on our resources and it makes us much more visible
    to those who would prefer not to have notesfiles on this node.  
    
    Please be aware that the node we now reside on has never allowed 
    notesfiles in the past.  I'd like to be sure we follow all the rules
    and guidelines presented to us so we don't give them a reason to 
    reconsider their decision to allow us to move to this location.
    
    Thanks to everyone in here for your understanding.
    
    Jan
    Moderator, ABC_SOAPS

    Jan:
    
    I haven't done much with the topic (gosh I forgot the title its been so
    long), you know the one where I list the characters that have gone.....
    so maybe just leave the last list and I think everything else can go.
    
    I've been busy lately and haven't updated for a while....but I would
    hate to loose what we have, such as who the character is and his name.
    
    BTW:  How's Jo?  What's going on with her?  How long will she be off?
    
    
    Smiles!
    
    Jackie

    Just wanted to let everyone know that we're having some serious trouble 
    with the MISERY cluster on which this file resides.  The darned thing 
    is crashing more often than even I thought possible.  Field service is 
    working the issue but I don't have any idea when they hope to have it 
    resolved.  If you can't get into the file it is probably because one
    or the other nodes in the cluster has crashed.  Please hang in there.
    I'll try to post a note when our system manager tells me things are
    back to some level close to normal.
    
    Jan
    Moderator, ABC_SOAPS  

    Could one of the moderator please let me know what the entry is for 
    nbc soaps  (days of our lives)  I haven't been able to find out...
    where you get the listing for entries. thank you so much...

    See note 5.1 for Pointers to Other Soaps.
    
    Cheryl

    If anyone is still wants to use this public file to note about 
    ABC_SOAPS, please send me mail.  I'd like to know if it is worth 
    keeping this file open now that most everyone seems to have moved 
    on to greener pastures.
    
    In order to assure some level of privacy, please do SEND/AUTHOR at 
    the Notes> prompt as you read this message.  DO NOT reply in the file.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Jan
    Moderator, ABC_SOAPS

              <<< MISERY::APPS$:[NOTES$LIBRARY]ABC_SOAPS.NOTE;3 >>>
                           -< Welcome to ABC_SOAPS! >-
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Note 1.94                   Conference Announcements                    94 of 94
JULIET::CORDES_JA "Four Tigers on My Couch"          11 lines   5-OCT-1992 11:00
                    -< Okay, we're still open for business >-
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    Well, all the mail I've gotten indicates that the file should be
    kept open.  I'm happy to oblige.  I was just feeling like the lone
    noter and wanted to be sure there were others still out there.  The
    remaining group of us will have to fill in for the missing updaters
    as well as we can.  Come on read-only noter, this is your chance to
    shine!
    
    Thanks to all who replied.
    
    Jan
    Moderator, ABC_SOAPS

    For those of you who were unable to access the file yesterday,
    I apologize.  I thought we had a problem of some sort and told
    the system manager.  He thought it was network related as were
    were having some network problems.  As it turns out, it wasn't
    a network problem.  Someone had changed the password to this 
    file.  Everything should be back to normal now.
    
    Jan
    Moderator, ABC_SOAPS

    Just want everyone to know that this file will continue no matter
    how quiet it gets.  I'm sure the current business climate has a
    lot to do with why we're so quite.  I'm not at liberty to discuss
    where everyone has gone publicly, but if you send me mail I'll 
    answer the question.  If I get a lot of mail, I'll have to start
    sending out a "canned" reply so please don't be upset if it is
    not a personalized message.  Don't worry, nothing bad has happened 
    to anyone.
    
    In the mean time, I'd like to encourage all the normally silent/closet
    noters to come out of the closet.  Now is your time to shine.  We
    need updaters and upcoming news posters and a bit of chatter to 
    keep this file rolling.
    
    Jsn
    Moderator, ABC_SOAPS

    CSSE::BAILEY, I'm having trouble replying to your message.  I hope
    you got the one I finally got to send.
    
    Jan

    Just a quick note here.  I want to thank everyone who has been
    updating and filling in the upcoming news.  It doesn't seem 
    like that many people are in here but rest assured there are
    bunches of people out there that really appreciate it, they're
    just silent noters.  I had no idea we had so many people still
    with us until I got mail from almost all of them.
    
    Jan
    Moderator, FELINE

    Just a quick reminder to our new update posters.  If you are
    posting a "same day" update, please remember to add a spoiler
    before the text.  You do this by typing CONTROL L.
    
    And, at the risk or repeating myself for the umpteenth time.
    Thank you, thank you, thank you for updating.
    
    Jan
    Moderator, ABC_SOAPS

    expect interuptions in your tapes today...
    
    the Pentagon just announced that we have bombed Iraq!
    
    Clinton and Bush are going to be making a statement sometime this
    afternoon!
    
    I have my radio on..... 
    
    M-L

    Just wanted to let you know that there is no rule about not chatting
    in this file.  Please feel free to chat (although it should be kept
    to the proper topic).  This file could use some life.
    
    Oh, and thanks everysomuch to those of you who save us each day by
    putting in the updates.
    
    Jan
    Moderator, ABC_SOAPS

    What!  No new notes.  Is anybody still out there.  Have you all
    flown the coop and left me here alone?  I never thought I'd see
    the day when I'd be begging for chatter (since the system manager
    was strict about file size in the beginning) but, here I am begging
    for some activity.
    
    Chat on dudes and dudettes,
    
    Jan

    Just want to put it into writing here...
    
    Everyone is welcome to update and comment in this file.  If you 
    feel you must correct information contained in an update, please,
    do so with tact and diplomacy.
    
    Thanks to all of the updaters for their updates be they sketchy,
    lengthy or one liners.
    
    Jan
    Moderator, ABC_SOAPS

    I will be on vacation from 5/16 through 5/25 (back on 5/26),
    not that you guys have needed me much lately.  Don't go nuts 
    while I'm gone. :^)
    
    Aloha, (yep, I'm off to Hawaii)
    
    Jan
    Moderator, ABC_SOAPS
    

    Jan,
    
    Hope you are having a great (*!*) vacation.
    

    I will be on vacation (in the DC area) from 6/29 through 7/5
    (back on 7/6).  Keep those wonderful updates coming while I'm
    gone.  I'll need to catch up on everything.
    
    I'll probably be wishing I was back in Calif. before the vacation
    is over given the sweltering temps and humidity in DC.  I'm such
    a weather wimp after 21 years in Calif.
    
    Jan (who wishes she'd have lost 20 lbs before going to her 21 year
         high school reunion)

    I'm baaaaaaaaccccckkK!
    
    Tried to catch soaps while in the DC area and all we got was O.J.
    coverage.  Oh well.
    
    Jan

    Just a quick note.  I heard on the news today that the networks
    will be resuming soap schedules after the glut of O.J. Simpson
    coverage has died down.  They say they'll play all the episodes
    in order.
    
    Can't wait.  Hope it happens very soon.
    
    Jan

    Just wondering if there's a problem with the notesfile or if 
    everyone is just especially quiet this week.  Is anyone still
    hanging around in this notesfile or do I have a system issue
    and no one can see this?  Waiting patiently to see if I'm the
    only one here.
    
    Jan

    I'm here, but you are in the same here as I am, so that probably
    doesn't help.
    

    I'm here also.  I've been wondering why it has been so quiet.  I 
    usually just read the conference (I look forward to the updates).
    hope everyone starts again.
    
    Jenn

    I was able to watch them a few times this week but don't have time for
    a long update, let me know which soaps you ladies and gentlemen(have to 
    include everyone) watch and I will highlight them for you......Mary

    All my kids & GH, OLTL (if time)

    I'm happy to see you guys are still here.  I thought my machine
    was acting up since they changed the hardware.  I attempted to
    pull a few updates off the web but other day but my web brouser 
    crashed in the middle of it so I gave up.
    
    Jan  

    I tried to update City, AMC, GH and OLTL today via the TV Guide
    updates and I was a little surprised (and a little annoyed) to
    find out that they haven't updated their information.  They're
    still on last week's updates.  This is so odd.  Usually they
    have the update in on the same day.  Will need to figure out
    what's going on here.  I've become dependent on them for my 
    daily blurb about each show.
    
    Jan (hoping someone, somewhere has an update) :^)