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	Depends on what you mean by oldies - see note 251 and replies
	for 60's-era rock.
	
	Mike

        If you're older than the '50s or '60s, there's Benny Goodman's
        Carnegie Hall concert on the Columbia Jazz Masterpiece label.
        The tapes for that were made in '38 or '39, and are of very high
        quality for their age. I also have a new 3-disc Duke Ellington
        collection from 1940-1942 which I haven't been able to listen
        to.
        
        Recordings mad a lot before these are not likely to be in
        terribly good shape, although someone in this conference
        commented on a label indicating that the original recording for
        one of their CDs predated magnetic tape.
        
        JimB. 
        
        JimB.

    re -.1
    
    The Germans invented magnetic tape during WWII.  So anything before '45
    could not be on tape. 

    Sorry for not being clear - I meant 50's and 60's oldies.

    	I've got 'From the Original Master Tapes'; I'm pleased with
    it. The track 'True Love Ways' is worth the cost of the CD on it's
    own - the quality of the recording is truely amazing. A lot of the
    CD is mono, although this track is stereo. If you only get the chance
    to hear one track (assuming you like Buddy Holly), then definately
    hear this one!
    
    	Keith Edmunds
    

    I purchased "The Platters' Greatest Hits" and I think it's great.
    I thought the sound was very clear, maybe it sounded that way because
    my records of them are beat. I would buy the CD again in a second.
    
    Ed

        The first US patent for magnetic recording tape was issued
        to J.A. O'Neill in 1927. The first German patent was to Fritz
        Pfleumer of Dresden in 1928. During the 1920s Kurt Stille
        of Germany acquired a number of patents in the field. One
        of the people he licensed to use his patents was Louis Blattner
        of England whose "Blattnerphone" was used to record and
        synchronize sound with motion pictures--still in the 1920s.
        The Blattnerphone was used by the BBC and the Marconi company.
        
        During the 1930s tape recording research continued in the U.S.,
        England and Germany. I believe that Magnetophon of Germany's
        development of magnetic film-coated tape, based on Pleumer's
        patent, which constituted a low-cost recording medium was also
        during the 1930s. The Magnetophon was indeed of considerable
        value to Germany during the War, but was the culmination of a
        couple of decades of work in the field in the U.S. and England
        as well as in Germany. (Magnetic wire recording was patented in
        the US in 1921, thus my "two decades".)
        
        I am assured that the Carnegy Hall concert was indeed recorded
        on tape in 1938. I'd be surprised if those original masters are
        still usable, though. The 1940-42 Ellington recordings appear to
        be from tape, although at least one of the sessions (the discs
        are based on 10 or 12 sessions) seems to have been mastered from
        a disc, as there is noticable crackle in a couple of cuts. I
        do not know for a fact that they were recorded on tape, but
        I believe it to be the case. Three or four years after Carnegy
        Hall it is certainly ossible.
        
        JimB.

    By the way, it was me that first brought up the description
    of one CD that claimed that the original recording was made
    before the advent of magnetic tape. The disc is of Glenn
    Miller on the RCA label. I don't recall the exact title, but
    it's something like THE INCREDIBLE GLENN MILLER.
    
    --- jerry

        
        I just recently saw a CD compilation of Eddie Cochran.
        Has anyone heard any of his stuff on CD?

    Re: tape invention.
    
    About a dozen years ago, BASF had a promotional offering to celebrate
    something, either their anniversary or the advent of tape recording
    or something.  BASF made a cassette of the 3rd movement of the Mozart
    Symphony No. 39 in E flat Major with Sir Thomas Beecham and the
    London Philharmonic Orchestra.  This was supposedly the first
    commercial use of magnetic tape and was recorded in Germany on November
    19, 1936.
    
    > R.Michael
    

        It would appear, now that I've bought and listened to the
        Goodman Carnegie Hall reissue, that I was misinformed about it
        being originally recorded on tape. The original was quite
        clearly on disk, not tape. The crackle and pop are quite
        recognizable. Regardless of the medium, the discs are well worth
        purchasing. 
        
        JimB.