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    correction to my own note:  Fortune Hunter was on over
    a year ago ...was cancelled in October 1994.  
    time flies when your watching the tube...

    This show is on 8:00 on FOX network...I just read a preview review
    on this and the other new show "Profit".  They both got an "A"
    which almost Never happens....also noted in the article was they
    suspect that The Kindred should be bigger than both new shows
    and maybe should come out a big winner because of the
    acting and writing for this show is top notch....we'll see....

    Its based on Vampire: The Masquerade. In the credits, it was referred
    to as a book (i.e. based on the book...), but I've only seen it as a
    role-playing game. I've never played the game, but it seems to be very
    popular, as Vampire: The Masquerade live action role-playing events at
    conventions seem to be pretty big with high attendance.
    
    Other spinoffs include a collectible card game published by Wizards of
    the Coast (famous for Magic: the Gathering), originally published as
    Jyhad, and rereleased as Vampire: The Eternal Struggle. The show seemed
    to include many names and terms from the game/book, and was interesting
    to watch. However, from a perusal of the game book, and some of the
    card game art, I was expecting a much darker tone and a more
    gothic/punk atmosphere than portrayed in the show. Still, it wasn't
    bad, and I will watch the 1st 1 hour episode tonight.
    
    -Eric
    

    Eric
    
    Im waiting for the 2nd install tonite...I hope it gets better
    The rating on this was an A from the reviewer...couldn't believe
    my eyes since they Never give A's for new shows
    
    I thought the dialogue was 95% sharp and moved right along....
    We'll see how this pans out.....
    
    Marilyn

I watched the pilot and thought the acting (with the exception of Mark Frankel)
bad and the script even worse. Nice production though and it was nice to see
Jeff Kober (from China Beach) again. The premise isn't bad but the execution
really needs some work.


Randy

    The Globe TV critic, Fred Biddle, gave this show a terrible review.
    

    I watched yesterday's episode. I thought it was a little better than
    the pilot, and they added a few twists to the plot. They still need to
    work on giving it a lot more atmosphere and mood, though I thought
    there was some improvement last night. Maybe the writers/directors
    and designers should look at some of the large amount of artwork
    produced for the games (especially the color paintings in the card
    game) to get a better feel for that sort of thing. Its not just a
    visual thing, but a combination of writing, visual impact and acting.
    I suppose this is important for any show, but I thing its especially
    important for something like a vampire story.
    
    -Eric
    

    
    Can you tell me what happened Wed. night? I was out and didn't tape
    it. Thanks.
    
    Patty

    Re .8
    
    Brief recap of wednesday's episode. I have most of this on tape...I
    tried to pause out the commercials, but forgot to restart the tape
    during one segment. I wasn't planning on saving it, but if you'd like
    to borrow it, please send me email at MILKWY::REN, and I will save it
    for you. I live and work in Marlboro. Otherwise, read the spoilers
    below, and I'll use the tape for taping my weekend shows.
    
    -Eric
    
    SPOILER WARNING:
    
    
    
    
    Very brief recap:
    
    1) A young female investigative reporter tries to do a story on Luna.
       He talks to her a few times, decides that if he can control her,
       they can actually use her to protect the Kindred and the Masquerade.
       He tries to seduce her but may actually be falling for her. He buys
       her newspaper through some subsidiary companies and offers her the
       top editor position.
    
    2) The cop (I keep forgetting his name) wires a crooked 
       dockworker foreman in a sting operation on Fury, but it goes
       sour, and they kill the foreman. The cop gets in first, tries
       to pull the stake out of the foreman, just in time for all the
       other cops to see him with a bloody stake in his hands. IA opens an
       investigation on him, because they think he killed the foreman.
    
       he also does more research on vampires and finds they have the
       ability to see past events if they can touch objects associated with
       the events. He takes ring that the killers tried to remove from the
       foreman, but couldn't remove, and brings it to Luna to "read". Luna
       says if he can get proof that Fury broke the prohibition against
       killing humans (the foreman was actually a human), he could have 
       him eliminated. The ring only shows the actual killer, not Fury.
    
       Among the Kindred clan leaders a vote is taken, they vote to kill
       the Kindred who killed the foreman, but they don't get enough
       votes to kill Fury, the killer's boss.
    
    3) The cop finds a Street Sweeper shotgun loaded with phosphorus
       rounds in his apartment. He receives a call about this "gift",
       and is told that it is to take care of any unfriendly visitors
       he may recieve in the night. A Kindred (possibly the killer of
       the foreman, I'm not sure) attacks him in the night, but he manages
       kill him with the shotgun. The phosphorus rounds are called
       "dragon's breath".
    
    4) Fury speaks with the cop's kindred partner, who agrees to set
       up and kill Luna. However, when he goes to see Luna, Luna "reads"
       him, but surprisingly says something like "you told him you'd
       betray and kill me...and he believed it?" leaving the partner's true
       intentions a mystery. Is he working for Luna, and trying to set up
       Fury, or is it the other way around?
    
    These are the major things that happened, that I remember. These 4
    items were kind of intertwined in the episode.
    
    -Eric
       

    
    Eric
    	Thanks for the update. I don't need your tape, but thanks for the
    offer. 
    
    Patty

    The season finally was pretty good.....I liked the way they ended it.
    I believe this one is cancelled so at least Aaron Spelling gave it
    a more than decent burial in its final episode....I'll miss
    seeing Mark Frankel who is a good actor and not to mention one of thE
    most handsome men I've seen on TV in a while.
    RIP
    

    This got cancelled???  What happened in the last show?  I thought
    this was going to be around a while with all those great write ups
    it got.  
    
    Thanks,
    RS

    Kindred was a mid-season replacement, and thus only a limited number of
    episodes were produced. All have now been aired. The decision to cancel
    or renew the series has not been made yet, though the decision will be
    made in the next week or two. If you liked the show, you can write to
    Fox to urge renewal...they do take fan response into account (though
    ratings and advertising sales are the primary factors). Contact
    information is below:
    
    John Matoian, President, Fox Entertainment Group
    Fox Broadcasting Network
    PO Box 900
    Beverly Hills, CA 90213
    
    
    You can also check out the Fox Web Page for more information 
    (http://foxworld.com/entertainment/).
    
    -Eric

    Kindred has now been cancelled, along with Space: Above and Beyond. Sliders
    was actually renewed. X-Files has been moved to sundays, and a new
    series called Millenium, will take over its slot.
    
    -Eric

    Disappointing that they cancelled it.  I managed to get myself right
    involved in the show.  
    
    Is it for sure cancelled or is their any word on it being picked up by
    a different network?
    
    Peter

    I just heard that Showtime picked it up. I don't remember what the
    source was, or what format it was going to be shown in (were they
    picking it up as a series, did they get the rights for made for cable
    movies, or were they just going to air the original episodes as cable
    movies?).
    
    -Eric
    

    I think no-one but me remembers a great TV guy called David Jansen
    (sp).
    He was in a few shows that I enjoyed week after week.
    I know that he did introduce at least one actress to later stardom.
    I always thought his great laid back style gave a lot of intrest to his
    shows,
    But then I am old enough to remember Roger Moore as the Saint pulling
    off the perfect job, to prove a point.
    
    joan
    

    Not oly that.
    Call me senile.
    that last posting went into the wrong note.
    joan

    
    	David Janssen, that is, in case anyone cares.
    

    Joan, what note was that supposed to go into?  I can move it for you.
    
    Holly
    co-mod