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| 616.1 |  | DEMING::VALENZA | From soup to notes. | Thu Mar 18 1993 09:02 | 5 | 
|  |   >What do you believe it means to be baptized with fire?
    
    I think it could be extremely painful.
    
    -- Mike
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| 616.2 | not something I worry about | CVG::THOMPSON | Radical Centralist | Thu Mar 18 1993 09:26 | 10 | 
|  |     One possibility: Acts 2:3-4 "And there appeared unto them cloven
    tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. And they were
    all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues,
    as the Spirit gave them utterance." This is the story of Pentacost.
    An other is that the "fire" refers to hardships that will come to
    Christians because they are Christians that God will use to strengthen
    them as a metallurgist uses fire to temper steel.
    		Alfred
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| 616.3 |  | STUDIO::GUTIERREZ | Citizen of the Cosmos | Thu Mar 18 1993 11:43 | 7 | 
|  |     		
    
    	The word "fire" has been used symbolically in mystical writings 
    	to represent the higher mind principle, while "water" represents 
    	the emotional aspect, "earth" the physical aspect, "air" the 
    	intuition and "aether" spirit.
        
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| 616.4 |  | MSBCS::JMARTIN |  | Tue Mar 23 1993 17:07 | 9 | 
|  |     I personally believe Baptism by fire is what was experienced on
    pentacost.  I also agree that fire is used in the Bible as a way of
    testing faith.  1st Cor: 3 says our works will be tested by fire.
    
    Also, it is used as a sign of purifying.  Rev. 3, God tells the
    Laodician Church to purify their gold with fire, I.E. you have impure
    lives, clean up your act!
    
    -Jack
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| 616.5 | Opinion of a silent reader. | DEMING::HAKIM |  | Fri Mar 26 1993 16:48 | 17 | 
|  | Re: .0,
Richard you write:
>  Luke 3:16 (KJV) John answered, saying unto [them] all, I indeed baptize
>  you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of
>  whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall �baptize� you
>  with the Holy Ghost and with �fire:�
>  What do you believe it means to be baptized with fire?
The terms "water" and "fire" have metaphorical meanings of "knowledge"
and "love" respectively. 
Warm regards,
Kamran Hakim
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| 616.6 |  | STUDIO::GUTIERREZ | Citizen of the Cosmos | Mon Mar 29 1993 08:53 | 10 | 
|  | 
 RE: .5
    
>The terms "water" and "fire" have metaphorical meanings of "knowledge"
>and "love" respectively. 
	Yes, we are in agreement there, water = love(emotional) aspects,
    	fire = knowledge(mental) aspects.
	
    			Juan
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| 616.7 |  | JURAN::HAKIM |  | Mon Mar 29 1993 09:07 | 7 | 
|  |     Re: .6
    
    I suggested the reverse.
    
    Regards,
    
    Kamran Hakim
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