| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name
 | Date | Lines | 
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| 528.1 |  | SDSVAX::SWEENEY | Patrick Sweeney in New York | Mon Oct 05 1992 13:31 | 8 | 
|  |     Richard's imperative... "Discuss"
    
    For background, look at Matthew 15 where Jesus accuses the Pharisees of
    not honoring their mother and father in giving precedence to other
    laws.
    
    And look at Matthew 19:3 where Jesus discusses the role of families and
    the sacred nature of the bond of marriage.
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| 528.2 |  | SOLVIT::MSMITH | So, what does it all mean? | Mon Oct 05 1992 15:08 | 4 | 
|  |     Good answer, Pat.  What it has to do with the question is beyond me,
    however.
    
    Mike
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| 528.3 | Restrict not charity | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Keep on loving boldly! | Mon Oct 05 1992 18:47 | 10 | 
|  | "Charity begins at home" seems to be one of those phrases primarily used
by people who do not care to see a great degree of sacrificial love
demonstrated beyond one's immediate vicinity or outside one's own kind.
I believe charity is one of those virtues which increases and improves with
practice.  And so, I believe charity is not something to be restricted,
regardless of where it begins.
Peace,
Richard
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| 528.4 |  | FATBOY::BENSON | CLEAN THE HOUSE! | Tue Oct 06 1992 11:07 | 5 | 
|  |     My experience with the term and practice of "charity begins at home" is
    based on the fact that one cannot be one kind of person toward his own
    and another to someone else.  
    
    jeff
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| 528.5 |  | CVG::THOMPSON | Radical Centralist | Tue Oct 06 1992 11:40 | 6 | 
|  |     I concur with .4. Beyond that I believe that charity is something that
    is learned first at home. It is taught by example. Parents that live a
    life of service and charity are more likely to raise children who do
    likewise.
    		Alfred
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| 528.6 | $.02 worth... | BSS::VANFLEET | Que bummer! | Tue Oct 06 1992 12:02 | 12 | 
|  |     The question which this brings to mind for me is, what is the
    definition of the word "charity"?  It seems to me that in I Cor. 13
    Paul defines charity as akin to what the Greeks termed agape or
    unconditional love.  
    
    To me, the phrase "charity begins at home" not only implies loving
    acceptance and action toward our family and close associates but also
    toward ourselves.  If we cannot act in a loving manner toward ourselves
    and our family, then how can we possibly act in a loving manner toward
    the masses?
    
    Nanci
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| 528.7 |  | SDSVAX::SWEENEY | Patrick Sweeney in New York | Tue Oct 06 1992 12:04 | 3 | 
|  |     "acceptance" doesn't imply acceptance of sin.
    
    We are called to repent.
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| 528.8 |  | BSS::VANFLEET | Que bummer! | Tue Oct 06 1992 12:29 | 9 | 
|  |     One can accept and love a person for *who* they are, a unique part of
    God's creation, without approving of all that they do.
    
    In your book we are called to repent our own wrongdoings, Patrick.  We are 
    not called to force others to repent what *we see* as *their*
    wrongdoings.  This is the difference between leading as in showing the
    way and pushing as in using force.  
    
    Nanci
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