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| 509.1 | thoughts mostly... | VIDSYS::PARENT | the fire in the ice, and me | Fri Aug 21 1992 09:54 | 22 |
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Pomp has it's place for certain events.
My religious start in the Roman Catholic church and in my experience
they do have a thing for finery. To this day I feel certain events
deserve clothing appropriate to the celebration. It's something that
for me originated there with no negative values implied. I feel most
of that comes from the historical beginnings of the RCC as a
constitutional monarchy and it's higer members part of the ruling body.
A lot of interesting traditions with strong foundations in history.
Because of this I feel many of the ordained members of the church
appear to be out of reach (it may not be true) due to their high
position and higherarchy. Some of this is still reflected in civil
athority(judges come to mind).
My experience day to day with other religious people tends to point
toward more functional cloths with a minimal something to indicate
they are spiritual leaders/healers/guides.
Peace,
Allison
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| 509.2 | | WMOIS::REINKE | the fire and the rose are one | Fri Aug 21 1992 12:48 | 11 |
| The origins of the basic robes that priests/ministers wear is from
1st century clothing. They have become more elaborate in many cases
it is true, but the original intent was to keep to the basic dress
of the time of Christ.
another reason given for the special dress for clergy is to symbolise
the difference between the man or woman as a person and the same
individual when working as God's intermediary. For these two reasons
I like and appreciate the specialness of clerical vestments.
Bonnie
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| 509.3 | No Problem | CSOA1::MRICHARDSON | Mark Richardson @CLO | Fri Aug 21 1992 16:07 | 14 |
| Marc:
One must be careful of the motivation for wearing the fineries. If it
is trully done in a spirit of praise and worship, and not puffing up
the flesh it is fine. The thing that gives me peace about it is that
we will put on our fineries to visit the President or the queen. If we
have a key job interview, we will do our best to look our finest. We
should be willing to do our utmost to congregate to praise the Lord.
He doens't require it; He wants us just as we are, without one plea (as
the song goes). But there is certainly nothing wrong with someone
wanting to honor the Lord and make a special occasion of doing so with
pomp and circumstance.
Mark R
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| 509.4 | | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Keep on loving boldly! | Fri Aug 21 1992 18:03 | 21 |
| At one time I, too, felt uncomfortable with the attire which set professional
clergy apart from everybody else. And I think it was that quality which most
bothered me. The robes and stoles, etc., seemed to say to me, "There is
something about me which requires me to separate myself from you. And that
separation is symbolized by the garments I wear."
I now see it differently. Perhaps I've just mellowed. But I've come to
appreciate the sense of ceremony and high church ritual in the celebration
of worship. I now see the ritual costumes as an integral part of that
experience.
I still like the incredibly subversive idea that the church is truly a gathering
of equals. And I still appreciate times of worship when the pastor is dressed
in "street clothes." My former pastor in the United Methodist church wore his
robe during worship about 50% of the time and a business suit the rest of the
time. My present pastor always wears the robe during worship.
You might also want to browse through topic 297: "On Clerical Attire"
Peace,
Richard
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