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| 344.1 |  | DEMING::VALENZA | Noteblind. | Fri Nov 15 1991 09:05 | 7 | 
|  |     From the Quaker perspective, there is no formal or official distinction
    between ministers and laity; everyone is in some sense a minister.
    There are many kinds of ministry, vocal ministry in worship being just
    one form among many.  You can minister to the sick, the poor, the
    troubled.
    -- Mike
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| 344.2 | Ministry is a call to service | KARHU::TURNER |  | Fri Nov 15 1991 11:02 | 9 | 
|  |     In the christian context it has to do with calling. This began with
    Jesus. He said to some, "follow me" to others "go thy way". Jesus seem
    to require a complete severance from earthly support and family, even
    equating the possession of purses with wickedness.
    	He said you cannot serve 2 masters. You will love one and
    hate the other.
    	Could it be that a lot of ministers "worship" the tithe?
    
    
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| 344.3 | Equivalent to servanthood | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Passionate Peace | Fri Nov 15 1991 15:20 | 7 | 
|  | I consider ministry a service, the act of serving another.  A minister
is a servant or "slave".
To me, a minister is not necessarily professional clergy.
Peace,
Richard
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| 344.4 |  | DEMING::VALENZA | Noteblind. | Fri Nov 15 1991 16:59 | 6 | 
|  |     "A minister is not necessarily professional clergy."
    
    Especially when you belong to a denomination that has no professional
    clergy!  :-)
    
    -- Mike
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| 344.5 | Not a pro but sincere nevertheless... | BSS::VANFLEET | Dreamer, your moment has come! | Mon Nov 18 1991 08:50 | 5 | 
|  |     Even when you do.  :-)  I consider the music that I share a ministry. 
    Now, I may not have been to ministerial school but you don't need
    formal training to share when God touches your heart.
    
    Nanci
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| 344.6 | A pastor should be a minister, but not always vice versa | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Passionate Peace | Mon Nov 18 1991 17:36 | 8 | 
|  |     I think confusion arises when someone speaks of their 'minister'
    when refering to their 'pastor.'  The confusion may be perpetuated
    by pastors who, speaking self-referencially, use the terms 'minister of
    the church' or 'minister of God or Christ,' as if they were the only
    ones.
    
    Peace,
    Richard
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| 344.7 | Minister versus Pastor | CSC32::J_CHRISTIE | Peace: the Final Frontier | Wed May 06 1992 22:44 | 11 | 
|  | If my understanding is correct a minister is a servant.  A pastor,
on the other hand, is more like a spiritual shepherd.
As I recall, the United Methodist Church recognizes its membership as
the General Ministry.  The clergy are the Ordained Ministry, called the
ministry of Word, Sacrament and Order.  Within the UMC, a third classification
exists.  It is a professional lay ministry called the Diaconal Ministry,
or the ministry of Love, Service and Justice.
Peace,
Richard
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