Conference koolit::disney

    re: Was it worth $232? In Disney dollars it was worth it.  
    
    It is probably worth twice lunch at Narcossee's which, as several
    people have noted, can run about $125 for two.

    
>Sauteed Sweetbreads on a Creamy Caper Sauce, Julienne Vegetables
>Shrimp and Avocado with Tequila Lime Beuree Blanc
>Chilled White and Green Asparagus with Julienne of Smoked Salmon, Sherry Walnut
>    Vinaigrette
>
>Creamy Soup of Frog and Tarragon Cream  <=====================+
>Pheasant Consomme with Tomatato, Shittake and Chives          |
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		Did Kermit Have anything to say about THIS ?? -+
    
    
    Hundreds of poor frogs on crutches ....
    
    Mark
    
    
                

    
    
      Can  a guest that is not staying on Disney property make a dinner
     reservation at Victoria and Alberts in advance, like the day or
     week before their trip?
     I know you can't do this with the EPCOT restaurants. I was just 
     wondering if the resort hotel restaurants operated with the same
     constraints.
    
                                  Thanks
                                        -Rob
    
    

    Okay, maybe I am having hallucinations from being unable to wait for my
    trip to the World in September, but...
    
    When I first logged into this notesfile, I could have sworn that I came
    across several different examples of menus from Victoria and Albert's
    as found in the base note.  Now I can't find them anywhere.  Could
    someone point me to these if they do in fact exist?  Or how about some
    others who have been posting their menus here as well?
    
    The variety and creativity of the menu items I have seen so far are
    incredible.  Can't wait to see what the choices will be on my visit!
    
    Ellen
    

        RE:  Note 226.3   ROULET::ROBROSE

>     Can  a guest that is not staying on Disney property make a dinner 
>     reservation at Victoria and Alberts in advance, like the day or 
>     week before their trip?
    
        Victoria & Alberts accepts all reservations one month in
        advance.  You do not have to have to be a WDW guest to make
        reservations.

        For reservations, call (407)824-2383.
    

        RE: 226.4 - Ellen Doyle   -< Victoria & Albert's Menus?? >-

>    Okay, maybe I am having hallucinations from being unable to wait for my
>    trip to the World in September, but...
>    
>    When I first logged into this notesfile, I could have sworn that I came
>    across several different examples of menus from Victoria and Albert's
>    as found in the base note.  Now I can't find them anywhere.  Could
>    someone point me to these if they do in fact exist?  Or how about some
>    others who have been posting their menus here as well?
>


        Ellen,

        Check our the following notes for reviews of Victoria &
        Albert's.

	39.55
	183.35
	183.36
	183.48
	183.54
	237.4
    

    My husband and I spent the evening of our 5th anniversary at V&A's. 
    Not listed on the menu, but served before the meal was roasted elk in
    garlic sauce, served with a slice of fresh pear. We chose a bottle of
    Chateau Carbinneaux, $40.00. BTW, I priced this at $25.00 at the local
    wine store, so the markup was not bad.
    
    Where there were multiple choices, the dishes we selected are marked with 
    an asterisk (*). We can personally vouch for the fact that what we
    had was incredibly delicious; I'd bet that the dishes we didn't
    select were great too! The serving size was tailored to let you enjoy
    everything, but not so large as to make one feel stuffed to bursting.
    
    The service was flawless, and the evening was perfect. 
    Without question, it was the best dining experience I have ever had,
    and we will go again (someday...)
    
    The menu was as follows:
    	
    			Mr. and Mrs. Edward Doyle
    		
    			    September 13th, 1991
    
    Mushroom Ravioli Poached in a Lobster Consomme' with Oriental Vegetables
    Southwestern Smoked Chicken Salad with Carmelized Baby Pineapple, Oranges,
    	and Plums (*)
    Pan Fried Swordfish Piccata on a Rainbow of Linguini with Brown Butter 
    	and Capers (*)
    
    
    Venison Consomme' with Veal Dumplings and Chives (*)
    Cream of Wild Mushrooms and Asparagus with Fresh Chantrelles
    
    
    Poached Maine Lobster and Fried Bananas on a Creamy Curry Sauce
    "Natural Lite" Broiled Filet Mignon with Grilled Chayotte and a 
    	Green Peppercorn Cream
    Peppered Breast of Long Island Duck with Sun-dried Cherry Chutney,
    	Black Currant and Cassis Sauce (*)
    Sauteed Medallions of Veal with Forest Mushrooms in Puff Pastry, 
    	Armagnac Jus (*)
    
    
    Seasonal Salad Leaves with a Rose Petal and Raspberry Dressing 
    
    Royal Stilton with Poached Pear, Pignoli Bread
    
    Charlotte Russe (*)
    Chocolate Chip Souffle (*; chocolate heaven)
    Pina Colada Souffle
    Fantasy of Fruits and Berries
    
    Coffee, Friandises  (although we chose tea, and it was promptly produced
    			 in a china teapot, covered properly with tea cozy)
    
    

    I owe my wife a slap-up meal as part of her recent birthday 
    present, and we are seriously considering V&A'swhen we are down in 
    WDW shortly. The only problem is the requirement for jackets. I 
    don't mind bringing a formal shirt, tie and pants, but I don't 
    fancy packing a formal suit (apart from it doubling the weight of 
    the luggage, British heavyweight suits are not exactly appropriate 
    for Florida weather!). Do V&A's have a supply of jackets for such 
    events? Is there a rental place within easy reach where I could 
    hire a tux? I don't suppose a T-Shirt with a tux printed on it 
    would go down too well?
    
    Advice?
    
    Mike B.

    Rep to <<< Note 226.8 by WOTVAX::BATTY "Well, I wouldn't start from here!" >>>

>    Do V&A's have a supply of jackets for such events? 
    
    Hmm don't know since I  haven't  eaten  there, didn't care to spend $75
    per person this past trip, just to eat in a snobish atmosphere, at that
    price I want to be entertained as  well  (just  not  my  type of eating
    experience, what can I say, Id prefer the  Hoop).   I know that the Top
    of The World had spare ties, but the 2  times  I've  eaten  there  I've
    never saw someone without a jacket.
    
>    Is there a rental place within easy reach where I could hire a tux?  
 
    Not  sure, maybe one of the other Birthday Bash participant can inquire
    next time they call WDW info?  I do remember a shop on the second floor
    that had Jackets for  Sale,  plus you also have Sir Edwards Haberdasher
    at the Village Marketplace that  had  jackets  last time I strolled the
    shops in '87.
       
>    I don't suppose a T-Shirt with a tux printed on it would  go  down too
>    well?

    From the type of people I saw staying at the GF on the 2 occasion I was
    there I would have to say NO ;^).

        Mike,

        V&A's does not have suits available as far as I know, and you
        definitely wouldn't be welcome, nor would you be comfortable,
        wearing a "T'shirt Tux".  It is OK to wear a sport jacket; we
        saw several the night that we went.

        If you prefer a Tuxedo, rentals are common in the US so I
        would expect them to be available in the Orlando area.  I'm
        sure that you could find them in the yellow pages.

        BTW, we found V&A's to be exceptional!  Debbie and I
        celebrated our 15th anniversary there last summer and
        everything was perfect.  It was probably the nicest meal that
        we ever had (and we have had some that are more expensive). 
        Highly recommended!
    

    
    When we went to V&A's in '88, I forgot the suit I was planning to
    bring with me for dinner there.  I had a nice shirt and tie, and they 
    supplied me with a jacket.  They were short on supply, but they had
    some.  I'd give a call.
    
    - Sean

    According to the 1989 Birnbaum book (p. 47, Transportation and
    Accomodations section), tuxedo rentals are available at the
    "Contemporary Man" shop at the Contemporary Resort.

    Thanks Ruth!
    
    Yep, still there on P47 of the '92 guide! 
    
    Do I lose my Moderator stripes for not following our standard 
    advice of looking in 'The Bible'? (I did look up rental in the 
    index BTW - boats, bikes, strollers, wheelchairs, etc. but no tux)
    
    Mike B. (15,866 minutes_til_I_board_the_plane)

    Rep to <<< Note 226.13 by WOTVAX::BATTY "Well, I wouldn't start from here!" >>>

>    Do I lose my Moderator stripes for not following our standard 
>    advice of looking in 'The Bible'? (I did look up rental in the 
>    index BTW - boats, bikes, strollers, wheelchairs, etc. but no tux)

    No we'll let it slip, since I didn't see it either when I did a cursury
    check also ;^)
        
>    Mike B. (15,866 minutes_til_I_board_the_plane)

    Gee Mike between you doing your  countdown in minutes, and Mike_S doing
    it  in  hours,  Would it help you  guys  if  I  made  it  possible  for
    VACATION.COM to do the conversion for you?   Like  says define a symbol
    or something that allow you to have the output  as  it  is today, or in
    Hours/remaining minutes/secs or in Minutes/remaining secs?  It probably
    wouldn't take much, unless I incorporate it into the command line, then
    I'd probably have to  rethink  my  logic or better yet why don't I have
    VACATION.COM define a process wide  symbol  that  would  be  accessible
    after it runs I allready have  the  DAYS  symbol  define for when I was
    doing  my  VAXNotes personal name countdown I  could  just  define  the
    symbols HRS, THRS, MINS, TMINS where DAYS, HRS  and  MINS  would be the
    default values and THRS would be the value of  MINS  plus DAYS times 24
    and .....;^)
    
    Claude

    Mike,
    
    The most recent copy of "The Walt Disney World Dining and Shopping
    Guide" says that the cost per person at V&A's is $75. Add the cost of
    renting a tux or suit and we're talkin' a pretty penny...or is it
    sixpence?
    
    Mike

    Mike,
    
    	    What with work and kids and work ....Oh! and don't forget 
    work... we don't get the chance to go out together very often, so 
    we might as well do it in style!!
    
    	    Anyway, we're getting a free meal at the HDD BB - You are 
    paying aren't you? 8-)8-)8-)
    
    Claude,
    
    	    It might be a bit of fun on Vac.Com to have a threshold so 
    that when the 'days to go counter' drops below 10, then you 
    automatically change to hours, and something similar for minutes. 
    It just makes it seem closer if you can count in hours or minutes!
    
    Mike B

    Mike,
    
    That's true....besides how often do you get to dine on Royal Doulton
    china from England (well maybe you can) with Sambonet silver from Italy
    and Schott-Zweisel crystal from Germany.
    
    * * * *
    
    I thought you guys were treating ME to HDD....after all you are
    expecting me to "dance" for my meal aren't you?
    
    Mike

    re: .13 Mike B.
    
    Wellllll, since you went to so much trouble, I guess it's ok
    for you to keep your stripes.
    
    Actually, if I'd only had the bible to go by I wouldn't have
    found the info either.  We booked one of those pay one price
    and everything is included packages in 1988.  The cast member
    who gave us our package mentioned Victoria & Albert's and
    said we could rent suit coats at the "Contemporary Man".  I
    only checked the guide to try to verify this and I still had
    a hard time finding it!
    
    Ruth

    Has anyone been to Victoria & Albert's recently?  I was very interested
    in going there on my honeymoon  (Nov 28-Dec 5)..  
    
    Cost isn't a real problem but we're both "american meat & potatoes"
    kind of people... I'm afraid we'll get there and not find
    anything  we'd like to eat!   Would the chef be able to lower
    himself to our standards? :>    
    
    Any information would help!
    Thanks, 
    Christine (26 days and counting)
    

We were there in June. You will find that the menue will test the depth of your 
statement "Cost isn't a real problem..."; if I remember, we dropped over $100 
per person.  I put some details in my trip report.  Actually, sign up for one 
of the plans that include free meals.  One trip to V&A can just about pay for 
the plan.

They have a 27 day rotating menue.  We had reserved for a Friday night, 
discovered that afternoon that the menue had absolutely nothing that I was
willing to ingest on purpose and changed it to Saturday night without any
problem.  Give them a call and ask for the menue of the night you would like to
attend. 

Enjoy

Dave

Just as an example, here's the menu from our visit to V&A's this August.  

First Course, choice of
   Carved Loin of Rabbit Stuffed with Almond and Herbs on a Bed of Creamy 
      Polenta, Merlot Glazed Red Peral Onions
   Mosaic Terrine of Cured Norwegian Salmon and Alaskan Halibut with Russian
      Beluga Carviar, Warm Toast Points and Sweet Mustard Dill Sauce
   Passion Fruit Pasta Salad with Peaches, Plums, Mangoes and Frest Mint from
      our Garden

Second Course, choice of
   Corn and Crab Chowder, Topped with Smoked Pepper Butter
   Venison Consumme with a Julienne of Truffle Crepes

Third Course, choice of
   Maple Roasted Duck Breast with Cranberry Rhubarb Marinade and Port Wine Sauce
   Filet Mignon Served with Angel Hair Potatoes, Tomato, Basil and Onion 
      Vinaigrette
   Broiled Maine Lobster with Carambola Served with a Mango Rum Beurre Blanc
   Grilled Veal Chop with a Timbale of Crab and Spinach, Marsala, and Roasted
      Pistachio Jus

Fourth Course
   Seasonal Salad Leaves with Roasted Garlic and Cracked Black Pepper Dressing

Fifth Course
   Royal Stilton with Poached Pear

Sixth Course, choice of
   Key Lime Tart with Macaroon Crust
   Blackberry Souffle
   Chocolate Almond Souffle with Amaretto
   Fantasy of Fruits and Berries

Seventh Course
   Coffee, Friandises


My mouth is watering just thinking about all of this -- it was a wonderful
meal.  They started us off with a complimentary piece of shrimp from the 
chef -- small (right Marcie?) but good.  I tried that rabbit appetizer (first 
time ever tried eating bunny) and I really liked it.  The chowder was very 
tasty, and I went with the traditional Filet as the main meal.  It was 
wonderful -- melt-in-your-mouth.  The poached pear was good, but the Stilton 
cheese was too strong for me.  As a chocolate lover, the souffle was a perfect 
ending.  I don't drink much coffee, but just watching the coffee maker is a 
treat.

Not exactly "meat and potatoes", but I'd guess that you'd find things 
that you'd like.  And the dining experience is worth a lot on it's own.

                                           Tracy

    Thanks, Tracy!
           If I have a menu like you did, I'll be all set.. I guess I'll
    just call the day we have reservations for and check.  we're 
    definitely going , just for the experience if nothing else.
    
    Thanks again
    Christine 
    
    p.s.. if anyone else has been there recenly and can post menus I'd 
    appreciate it.