Conference 7.286::golf

    	I'm gonna root for Corey Pavin, cause were about the same height,
    and hit the ball the same distance, (although he's more accurate ;-))
    
    	I always root for Norman, cause he's been snake-bit in the U.S.
    based majors, how many guys have holed out for birdies and eagles to
    beat him, its uncanny.
    
    	I'll also root for all the 40 something guys, specially guys like 
    Irwin, (he is playing ain't he?), I'll root for Davis Love this week to 
    make it in the field, he had a chance last week til the 17th at the
    TPC.
    
    	For what its worth, Watson wrote a letter to Frank Chirkianian sp?
    of CBS Sports complaining about McCords commentary and how it wasn't
    respectful enough for the Masters, while I respect Watson and his
    opionion, and hope he does well in the tourney, I don't share his views
    on McCord. I like his commentary, he makes the tournements he covers
    fun to watch and uses laymans terms, ones we as golfers use almost
    every round, to describe the play. CBS should not have caved to the
    Masters officails or Tom Watson in regards to McCord's presence, but
    unfortantly they did, and the tournement coverage will be poorer for
    it.
    
    	Turk

    Re:        <<< Note 2002.0 by ASDG::TREMBLAY "Hyperlinked to Cyberspace" >>>

    Based on last year's  poor  showing  of  americans  in  all Majors, I
    believe the press is going  to  make  a big deal about how US players
    perform this year, and the Masters  being the first one, will set the
    tone.
    
    If  the  Players  Championship  was  an  indication  with Lee  Jansen
    winning, hopefully there will be some good US presence next week, but
    Langer was there all the  way,  and Faldo has had a good start in the
    US since joining the US tour.
    
    Based on  early  tournaments, Pavin, Jacobsen and Jansen should be up
    there for the US.  I  think  Price  is  putting  too much pressure on
    himself  (he has stated that all he cares is winning the Masters  and
    the US Open).  Norman hasn't had any great finishes this year as  far
    as I know.  Els?  Olazabal?  who knows...
    
    Always rooting for him, Seve seems to be coming  back but can't quite
    make it all the way.
    
    So my  take  is  that  the following will be in the chase come Sunday
    April 9th when the tournament really starts (back 9):
    
    Jacobsen
    Faldo
    Pavin
    Langer

    
    	Don't forget, Price has won the last 2 majors...
    
    	While I cracked up when McCord said the infamous bikini wax
    	line, I also immediately knew that he dug his own grave by
    	saying it.  He knew what was expected of him and, to me,
    	he was toast regardless of Watson's letter.
    
    	Jake would be a great win.  Best bet would be Watson near the
    	lead on the weekend only to once again miss the short ones to
    	fall back.
    
    	Seve's playing great and Augusta's wide fairways / no rough
    	fit his game (he's won it twice, hasn't he?).  
    
    	Tom
    

    
    	I'm rooting for Mark O'Mara, then Norman, and finally, my old
    buddy from Chicagodom - Ray Floyd!!
    
    	I, too, like McCord; he does have some great lines. But CBS is
    the most uptight network in existence. Imagine if Fox was broadcasting
    The Masters. Now that would be something....
    
    	Otherwise, Janzen is tooo tightly wound, Pavin cannot win a big
    one, Langer is a threat (expect him in the top 5), Stewart is my dark
    horse (he'll probably wear Atlanta Falcons colors on Sunday), and
    Sauers may have a shot considering his very strong finish at the TPC.
    
    	One thing's for sure, it's The Masters - and we should see some
    GREAT golf.
    
    
    		the Greyhawk

    
    
    
    
    
    Hello,
    
    Gotta like Larry Mize's chances. Augusta is his stomping grounds and he
    has (I believe) been playing well this year. I also like Ben Crenshaw
    and his chances to win a second "Green Jacket". 
    
    Considering that Norman's season really just started three weeks ago 
    he is poised well for the Masters (IMO). 
    
    Watch out for Phil Mickleson(sp?), if he wears his game face and brings
    his magical short-game he can certainly be a top contender! I really
    hope that Tiger Woods makes the cut. It will be a huge challenge for
    him, but the Kids got GRIT!
    
    As always the Masters should be a Blast! Time for the Pimento(sp?)
    cheese sandwiches and Mint jullips(sp?) YUK!
    
    	IMO - McCord adds a refreshing and new look to televised golf.
        It is a shame that he will not be at the Masters this year.
    	I would imagine that Bobby Jones is lookin down and getting a real
    	chuckle out of how big of a mountain the mole hill was made into.
    
    		FORE,
     			ED
    	
    
    

    Hi Guy's,,,,
    
     I just want to know one thing!!! 
    
     What the hecks with Fred Couples??  He could put the ball in the Ocean!! 
                                                                       
     He's always been one of my favorites,,,i'd like to see him do well.

    Check out the '95 Masters home page at http://www.cris.com:80/~Masters/

    Bill

    Re:         <<< Note 2002.9 by XELENT::MUTH "I drank WHAT? - Socrates" >>>

    Thanks, I  just checked it and seems that it will be OK once they put
    all the info there.
    
    It will provide info and news, course info, history, players info and
    day by day reports.  It will also have souvenir sales.
    
    Tavo

    
    	Looks like the Leaderboard will be updated hourly - Great!!
    

    I'll go with who's hot and playing well this year. It'll go to either
    Peter Jacobsen or Davis Love III.
    
    And DEC stock will be $75 per share by June...	;^)
    
    Keith

    Well it was great to see Davis get into the Masters, he struggled the
    last few holes tho'.
    
    Gotta like Jacks play at the tradition, and how that set him up for a
    Masters run, the greens at the Cocheise course were very fast, and Jack
    putted as well as he has in years. If he can continue the great putting
    at Augusta, look for him on the first page of the leaderboard.
    
    ESPN coverage starts today, with high lites and high hype, CBS will
    have a highlights Thursday and Friday nights.
    
    	Turk

	USA network covers the first 2 rounds live from 4-6pm then repeats
	at 9pm.
			JT

    Saw a breif clip on ESPN last night about Tiger Woods, he played a
    practice round with Norman, Couples, and Watson. Norman said he (Woods)
    is longer than hisself of the tee, and that he expects great things
    from Tiger in the future. The reports also said the Monday and Tuesday
    were dry with Tuesday being windy and that the greens were not puttable
    by "humans". They do expect some rain today and possibly Thursday,
    which will hopefully slow up the greens enough to be puttable, and they
    expect good weekend weather. 
    
    Also a brief note on Love, and how remarkable it is that he said going
    into the Freeport/MacMorhan that he needed to win the tourney to get
    into the Masters, and then went out and did it. When you think about
    it, that really is an incrediable acheivement, and should really boost
    his confidence going into this week,  I hope he has a good showing this
    week.
    	Turk

    
    	Some guy said Tiger played with Faldo too and Nick couldn't
    	believe that Tiger outdrove him by 60 and 70 yards.  He
    	said he's as long as Daly though not in Randy Stuart's
    	league...
    

    Woods eagled 15 with a driver and 9-iron.

    15 should be a par 4!!!!

    re: 15 should be a par 4!!!!
    
    Tiger hit a 354 yard drive on 15 to get to app 180 where he hit his
    9-iron. This is not your typical PGA drive. Most folks use a 3-wood to
    try to reach 15 in 2. If you hit it short, you're wet. If you  hit it
    long, you're either wet or hitting downhill on a lightening fast green
    towards the water. Many a downhill putt has gone into the water in
    front of 15.
    
    Perhaps you're thinking of 13 which is much easier to reach in two, but
    much harder to make a eagle putt.

	all but the shortest of hiiters are hitting mid to low irons on 15 
	now-a-days. when Sarazen had his eagle, he used a 4 wood,
	and that was 60 years ago. watch this week, and you will see 
	that 15 is one of the easiest holes on the course! 

	it's only a par 5 because you can't hold the green. that, and the
	fact that the bikini wax'd front will not save any balls. 
	(now will I be banned from Notes, like McCord)
	

    "now will I be banned from Notes, like McCord"...quick, lets take
    a vote!!!!!

    
    
    
    thanx Linda, I knew I could count on you!!
    
    
    of course I meant double eagle on 15!!
    
    

	they definatly dye the water blue/green. the seed that they fill divots
	with is green also. you won't see any divot marks on TV on the par
	3's or common landing/approach areas......

     The Master's leader board is now being updated at the Augusta
     Chroncle's Web site.  The URL for the leader board is

	http://www.cris.com:80/~Masters/leader.html

     Bill

    
    	So who's leadin?????
    
    	Turk

    Chip Beck is -6 after 15. A group of folks at -3, -2 

    Well, the Augusta Chronicle's not living up to its promise of hourly
    updates (the last update was over 3 hours ago.)  But GolfWeb has more
    recent updates at http://www.golfweb.com/tour/pga/gwtpa11.htm

    Bill

    P.S. - As of 4:25

    NAME                   SCORE     HOLE
    ----                   -----     ----
 1. Phil Mickelson          -7        16
 2. David Frost             -6        17
 3. Jack Nicklaus           -5         F
 4. Chip Beck               -4         F
 4. Mark O'Meara            -4         F
 4. David Gilford           -4        14
 7. Jose Maria Olazabal     -3        17
 7. David Edwards           -3         F
 7. Scott Hoch              -3         F
 7. Hale Irwin              -3         F
 7. Ian Woosnam             -3         F

    
    
     Any further news for us in the UK working nightshift?
    
     How did Seve, Faldo, Langer, Price and Els fare?
    
     Cheers,
    
           Danny.

    There was some pretty good golf played yesterday. 
    
    How about the chip out of the bunker on 18 by curtis.  He seemed to
    play better towards the end of the round, so the 18th should give him
    confidence for todays round.  Look for him to make a run.

The Masters - Second Round

Last Updated 3:13 EST 

 
    NAME                   SCORE     HOLE

 1. Phil Mickelson          -6        3:23 PM EDT TEE TIME
 1. David Frost             -6        3:23 PM EDT TEE TIME
 1. Jose Maria Olazabal     -6        3:15 PM EDT TEE TIME 
 4. Jack Nicklaus           -5        3:15 PM EDT TEE TIME
 4. David Gilford           -5        3:07 PM EDT TEE TIME
 4. Corey Pavin             -5        3:07 PM EDT TEE TIME
 4. Davis Love III          -5         3 
 8. Fred Couples            -4         8
 8. Chip Beck               -4        2:59 PM EDT TEE TIME
 8. Mark O'Meara            -4        2:59 PM EDT TEE TIME
 8. John Huston             -4         6
 8. Lee Janzen              -4         2

Second round scores at the Masters Golf Championship at Augusta, Georgia: 

(Par=72) 

 
Seve Ballesteros      75-68--143            1-under
 
John Daly             75-69--144            even
 
Brad Faxon            76-69--145            1-over
Rick Fehr             76-69--145
 
Hal Sutton            77-69--146            2-over
Sandy Lyle            75-71--146
 
Brad Bryant           77-70--147            3-over
Larry Mize            76-71--147    
 
Jeff Maggert          78-70--148            4-over
Vijay Singh           77-71--148
Steve Lowery          75-73--148      
Mark McNulty          75-73--148
 
Gay Brewer            79-70--149            5-over
Nick Price            76-73--149
Gary Player           76-73--149
 
Jim McGovern          77-73--150            6-over
 
Arnold Palmer         79-73--152            8-over
Dicky Pride           79-73--152
 
Mark Brooks           76-77--153            9-over
 
Frank Nobilo          81-73--154           10-over
 
a-Trip Kuehnne        79-76--155           11-over
a-Tim Jackson         79-76--155
 
Mike Springer         77-80--157           13-over
a-Lee James           77-80--157
 
Ian Baker-Finch       79-81--160           16-over
 
a-Guy Yamamota        84-77--161           17-over
 
Billy Casper          79-89--168           24-over
 
Doug Ford             88-withdrew

    	What a great tournament. I was pulling for either Crenshaw, Love,
    or Norman so I was happy to see the genuine emotion that Ben let out
    knowing what he'd been through this week. 
    	Freddie missed double eagle by an inch. Watching the roll of
    that ball it looked like it was ready to curl right in the center of
    the cup and then it just drifted right...
    	I was almost correct with my guess of Love III, of course I said
    it could also have been Jacobsen.

    I was really happy for Crenshaw, he made some great shots, and clutch
    putts on the back nine. I too was rooting for Norman and Love on
    sunday, I was also rooting for Couples, who just self destructed with a
    couple of three putts on Amen Corner. I felt bad for Brian Henninger,
    who musta felt like he was in the way the last few holes, but he had an
    outstanding tourney, for his first appearence at Augusta.
    
    I would have loved to see Ben make his par putt at 18, but the emotion
    that was released after he won was really remarkable, he'll be a great 
    champion again.....Congratulations Ben.
    
    	Turk

    	There were other interesting tidbits. Nicklaus EAGLED the par 4
    fifth hole *** twice *** during the tournament. That hole had been
    eagled only 4 times previously in all the years past and he does it
    twice in one week! Jack thinks that hole and #10 are the toughest par
    4's on the course...
    	Tiger Woods had the longest average driving distance, 311.1 yards
    for the week, five yards better than Love. The kid has a future...	

    I'll say this for the CBS, I think they have the best golf coverage on
    TV bar none, the Masters of course is the highlight, and its tough not
    to have good coverage there, but in general they show more shots, live
    and not delayed, they cover the critical putts, and they do a great job
    of setting up the tournement at the beginnnig.
    
    The opening with Walter Cronkite on Sunday actually made me misty, I
    love that guys voice.
    
    	Turk

>    	Tiger Woods had the longest average driving distance, 311.1 yards
>    for the week, five yards better than Love. The kid has a future...	

	But I'm sure they're working on his Butler-Cabin-Speak... :-)
	Friday on USA during Tiger's interview he floored the 
	assembled morons by stating (I didn't write this down but
	it was very close to)

		"I'm not known for accuracy.  But here, you can blow it 
		 anywhere off the tee and still make 4."

	This frank appraisal was followed by about 5 seconds of dead silence
	and then going back to the action without another mention of Tiger :-)

	On another Master's note, the issue of Golf Digest out just recently
	had a GREAT article on the '75 Masters, in which Nicklaus, Weiskopf and
	Miller duked it out on Sunday.  All 3 players, and their caddies (!)
	lend their recollections of the day.  (Weiskopf's caddy tells of 
	watching one of Miller's iron shots and thinking to himself
	"please don't go in, please don't go in" because he hit so many
	that day that simply covered the flag.)

Mike