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| 1181.1 | oh dear, its real | RDGENG::WILLIAMS_A |  | Tue Apr 29 1997 06:44 | 5 | 
|  |     confirmed, appears to be shippable in June / July. Called a 570 (I
    think the letter prefix is still K), so I was told. PA8200, but no
    confirmation yet of clock or cache schema.
    
    pass the onion
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| 1181.2 | too real now.... | MINNY::rahel.zuo.dec.com::dolder |  | Fri May 23 1997 10:22 | 13 | 
|  | and now it's very real.. for details see HP's web site.
* K570, 6 x 8200 @ 200 Mhz/ up to 8GB Mem
* V2200, 16 [later 32] x 8200 @ 200 Mhz, 15GB/s crossbar
* HP-UX 11, full 64-bit UNIX
slowly but surely we're surrounded by some quite scalable and powerful machines.
The little bit of good news is that V2200/HP-UX 11 will only ship Q4CY97.
But even from then on it's a long time until we'll ship
our W-class :-) systems.
-matthias
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| 1181.3 | At least V-Class is smoke | KAMPUS::NEIDECKER | EUROMEDIA: Distributed Multimedia Archives | Wed May 28 1997 01:57 | 28 | 
|  |     What I find funny about the V2200:
    
    	15 Gbyte/sec. crossbar
    
    If you look at their picture, they have pairs of PA8200 sharing
    a 960 Mbyte/sec. port to the crossbar. The 960 is their marketing
    peak, the real peak is 768 and the achievable STREAM bandwidth
    something like 250 Mbyte. To arrive at their 15 Gbyte/sec. claim the
    are counting the sum of all the meaningless peaks. That box is
    bandwidth limited, even for something as mundane as SPECfp_rate95:
    
    V-Class Systems Performance Estimates 
           # of CPU  SPECrateint95 SPECratefp95 
           1		 120		135
           2		 235            270
           4 		 460            500 
           8		 910            890
           12		1320           1180
           16 		1680           1350
    
    For comparison:
    
    AlphaServer 8400 5/440   12 CPU    1115        
    AlphaServer 8400 5/440    1 CPU     153
    
    So, yes we are bandwidth limited as well, but we can still meet their
    newest (not even shipping stuff) per CPU with older machines.
    115
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| 1181.4 | another day in the trenches.. | RDGENG::WILLIAMS_A |  | Wed May 28 1997 05:28 | 10 | 
|  |     yeah, V class sounds like noise. I'll let Mr Henning apply the scalpel.
    
    Re the K 570 - is the cache schema the 'same' as the K460 ? 
    
    Oh, and anyone seen any SPEC figures for a UE10000, let me know...
    
    
    Ta,
    
    AW
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| 1181.5 | FUD | BPSOF::ODOR |  | Wed May 28 1997 13:53 | 4 | 
|  |     V2200 will have PCI I/O, so We might even generate some FUD:
    	"Is HP-HSC (and HP-PB) dying?"
    
    Tamas                        
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| 1181.6 | K370, K570, V2200, EPS23, EPS40 | FLEXEM::HAGGERTY | Kevin, NSIS, Stow MA USA | Tue Jun 03 1997 11:49 | 4 | 
|  |     lots of decent info at:
    
    http://sbu.mro.dec.com/comp/ideas/cphome.htm
    
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| 1181.7 | bookmarked.. | RDGENG::WILLIAMS_A |  | Wed Jun 04 1997 10:18 | 5 | 
|  |     .6
    
    indeed !
    
    
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