| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name
 | Date | Lines | 
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| 1114.1 | "no penalty", not "622 for price of 440" | CERN::HOBBS | Congrats to the Ignoble Peace Prize winner!  (http://www.eecs.harvard.edu/ig_nobel) | Fri Feb 21 1997 02:09 | 8 | 
|  | If the price of the 622 system equals the price of the 440 system plus the
622 upgrade, then the customer pays "no penalty" for the convenience of
getting the 440 system today and the upgrade later.
If the 440+upgrade were priced higher than the 622, then there would be
a penalty.
-cw
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| 1114.2 | No penalty phrase/approach is confusing | JULIET::HATTRUP_JA | Jim Hattrup, Santa Clara, CA | Fri Feb 21 1997 04:47 | 10 | 
|  |     Unfortuantely, without a price or part number(s) available for 622
    systems, the 'no-penalty' is really confusing or mis-leading.  
    
    The noter in .0 is what most (all....) customers will end up asking as
    one explains 'no-penalty'.   
    
    It would be much clearer to sell a 622Mhz system, deliver a 440Mhz
    system, and upgrade to 622Mhz when available - that would be
    no-penalty and easy to understand.  I'm sure there is some non-customer
    focused reason why we did not do it that way.
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| 1114.3 | Don't shoot the messanger, but... | NAMIX::jpt | FIS and Chips | Mon Mar 03 1997 10:22 | 34 | 
|  | 
	Implementing these kind of things at country level, I can speak only
	for our own country. This "No Penalty" upgrade is and will be
	based on country decisions and implementation.
	In short:
	Country is _allowed_ to bid 440to622 upgrade with no penalty to 
	customers (aka buy 440 now, get 622 at fixed or no cost). Problem
	with that program is that even country marketing may decide to
	offer this opportunity, country is responsible paying the 
	cost of upgrade to corporation, meaning that country finances
	customer upgrade if this upgrade code will be used. Of course
	you can always make customer pay the upgrade, but that's not
	exactly penalty free ;-)
	Implementation of this program is country specific, and in most
	cases you MUST talk with your local AlphaServer Marketing Mgr
	to find out if and how this program can be used in your own 
	country.
	For example I will accept usage of this "offer" certain limited
	critical bids, and pricing model of this upgrade will be decided
	case by case. I'm not satisfied with this upgrade program, but
	at least it gives us some elasticity on critical cases where
	we need it. This can be used in two different ways:
		- give customer fixed price they'll get the 622 system
		- use this as weapon in competitive situations (with care)
	
	regards,
			-jari
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