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Title:	TurboLaser Notesfile - AlphaServer 8200 and 8400 systems
Notice:	Welcome to WONDER::TURBOLASER in it's new homeshortly
Moderator:	LANDO::DROBNER

Created:	Tue Dec 20 1994
Last Modified:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	1218
Total number of notes:	4645

1092.0. "SHORT TERM MEMORY RESTRICTION ON 5/300" by CHEFS::GALLAGHER_D () Thu Feb 06 1997 13:13

    Forgive me if I am repeating earlier questions but I looked elsewhere
    in this conference and didn't find the answers I needed.
    
    We have a customer with two AlphaServer 8200 5/300s.  They each have
    two processors and 2 x 512MB of memory.
    
    At some time soon he is keen on being able to upgrade his memory. 
    However, Systems and Options has a comment about "A short term memory
    restriction" in that only two slots can be used and they must be the
    same size.
    
    Similarly, my understanding is that the 4GB module is not qualified for
    the AlphaServer 8200 5/300.
    
    So my questions are:
    
    a. Is the "short term restriction" going to be lifted please?
    
    b. Will the 4GB board be qualified for the 8200 5/300?
    
    c. Are there any other options to upgrade his memory (I think I know
    the answer already and it is expensive!).
    
    I suspect that if the customer is restricted to either upgrading to 2 x
    1GB or replacing his 2 x 512MB with 2 x 2GB it could be embarrassing
    because of length of time it is taking for the "short term" restriction
    to disappear.
    
    Thanks for any help.
    
    David Gallagher
    UK SBU Pre-Sales

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1092.1		DANGER::HARTWELL		`Thu Feb 06 1997 15:22`	22
	You have an 8200 with 2 processors (does that mean 2 CPU modules or 1 dual CPU module?) If it is a 4 CPU system (2 duals) you have no choice but to upgrade memory as your out of slots. If the curtomer wants to double memory, simply upgrade via simms to 1 gig from 512 Mb on your current modules. or replace the 2 512's with 2 2 gigs. There is a FC0 (see 618 and 748) to update the early 300's with a new EV5 and ADG asic to remove this restriction. Depending upon the date code of the module, you may not have this restriction with your current modules. I will ask Howard Drobner to post a note as to which REV 300 Mhz module is ok and which rev needs to be upgraded to remove the restriction /Dave
1092.2	TWO CPUS IN A SINGLE SLOT	CHEFS::GALLAGHER_D		`Thu Feb 06 1997 19:13`	26
	Thanks for your response. My customer has a very recent AlphaServer 8200 5/300 with: a. Two processors in a single slot. b. Two 512MB memory modules - two more slots. Therefore we have two slots left. The "short term" restriction says that only two modules (two slots) can be used for memory and that they must both be the same size. My concern is that without replacing boards my customer can only upgrade to a maximum of 2GB of memory (1GB per slot after upgrading the existing 512MB modules to 1GB). Does your reference to FCOs and removal of the restriction mean that after the FCO is applied the spare third slot can be used for more memory and that a 2GB board can be installed if needs be? Furthermore, is there any likelihood of the 4GB board being supported on AlphaServer 8200 5/300s please? Thanks very much David Gallagher
1092.3	Hope this helps..	DANGER::HARTWELL		`Fri Feb 07 1997 09:31`	39
	<<< MSBCS::DISK$SYSTEM2:[NOTES$LIBRARY]TURBOLASER.NOTE;1 >>> -< TurboLaser >- ================================================================================ Note 1092.2 SHORT TERM MEMORY RESTRICTION ON 5/300 2 of 2 CHEFS::GALLAGHER_D 26 lines 6-FEB-1997 19:13 -< TWO CPUS IN A SINGLE SLOT >- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for your response. My customer has a very recent AlphaServer 8200 5/300 with: a. Two processors in a single slot. b. Two 512MB memory modules - two more slots. Therefore we have two slots left. The "short term" restriction says that only two modules (two slots) can be used for memory and that they must both be the same size. My concern is that without replacing boards my customer can only upgrade to a maximum of 2GB of memory (1GB per slot after upgrading the existing 512MB modules to 1GB). >>> You need to find out if the modules in his/her system have the restriction >>> If they do, you need to get them FCO'd. Does your reference to FCOs and removal of the restriction mean that after the FCO is applied the spare third slot can be used for more memory and that a 2GB board can be installed if needs be? >>> Yes, any memory combination is possible. Furthermore, is there any likelihood of the 4GB board being supported on AlphaServer 8200 5/300s please? >>> The latest console release that supports the 4 gig memory module will >>> support 300 MHz modules that are up to rev. I validated this with the >>> console engineer who wrote/checked the code.
1092.4	THANKS VERY MUCH	CHEFS::GALLAGHER_D		`Fri Feb 07 1997 13:51`	5
	Thanks very much. I couldn't have asked for a better or quicker response. David Gallagher UK SBU
1092.5		UNITED::RENCONTRE	Les	`Mon Feb 10 1997 11:00`	11
	re:2 >> a. Two processors in a single slot. >> b. Two 512MB memory modules - two more slots. >> Therefore we have two slots left. Don't forget the I/O module, KFTHA and KFTIA each uses a slot. Les Rencontre, UK SBU Tech Support.
1092.6	Module revs	BIRDIE::IVANY		`Thu Feb 13 1997 14:17`	10
	Re.: Module Revision. If the E2056-DA is at Revision P09 or later, then the FCO has been applied and memory restictions don't apply. E2056-CA (single CPU) needs to be H08 or later. Wayne
1092.7	thanks again	CHEFS::GALLAGHER_D		`Fri Feb 14 1997 07:04`	7
	Thanks again, and thanks to Les for pointing our my arithmetic errors on numbers of slots. I wrote my original notes late at night! regards David Gallagher