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| 2609.1 | perc sounds are short, right, let's give it 4 DACs | SALSA::MOELLER | what if the Kurds had OIL? | Fri Apr 05 1991 13:30 | 6 | 
|  |     I know you meant Roland SGU's.  I have a Roland SPD-8, MIDI percussion
    controller slash SGU, and I can categorically state there is NO
    information whatever in the technical doc or marketing lt regarding the 
    number of simultaneously available voices.
    
    karl
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| 2609.2 | What They Left Out Of The Ads | IXION::ROST | I dreamed I was Roy Estrada | Fri Apr 05 1991 15:35 | 23 | 
|  |     Re: .0
    
    That's the way it works more or less.  It depends on which box.  The
    D-10/20/110 and MT32 have totally separated the drums from the L/A
    sounds, so that *none* of the "32" voices get used.  But the
    U-110/20/220 boxes definitely use some of the "31" voices to make drum
    sounds.  Of course, since you seldom do layering with drum sounds, you
    really only use one voice per drum sound and seldom are hitting more
    than 3 or 4 of them at a time, so you are using only a small portion
    of the voice "pool".
    
    BTW, Roland isn't doing this any differently than other manufacturers
    offering drum samples (Korg, Kawai, Ensoniq, etc.), basically they all
    eat precious voices.  Some companies have wised up a bit; the Ensoniq
    VFX knows enough to steal attack transient voices out of a patch once
    they've run their course, even if you are still holding keys down. 
    This gives the *illusion* of having more voices, simply beacuse voices
    return to the pool for reassignment more quickly.
    
    Seems to me you're concerned about eating D-70 voices with your drum
    parts.  It's a valid concern. 
    
    							Brian
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| 2609.3 |  | RICKS::SHERMAN | ECADSR::SHERMAN 225-5487, 223-3326 | Fri Apr 05 1991 21:48 | 16 | 
|  |     Yup.  I just got my D70 and MC50.  I'll be pouring over the manuals
    tonight.  One thing I've noticed.  With a machine that sounds this good
    you can screw up and it still sounds okay.  It's a beast of a machine.
    Just beckoning for exploration.  I plan to post a review as soon as
    I feel comfortable.  My little kids were listening and dancing to the
    demo program.  It was really cute.  It's been two years since we've had
    a synth around.  It's like I can breathe again.  BTW, I do have a copy
    of the latest Commusic tape and plan to give a review one of these
    days.
    
    The manuals for the equipment are thick.  Still have the same bad
    English.  But, there is a thick manual for the D70 (200 pages) and 
    *two* thick manuals for the MC50 (total of about 300 pages).  I'll 
    see what these have to say about percussion as implemented in the D70.
    
    Steve
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| 2609.4 |  | RICKS::SHERMAN | ECADSR::SHERMAN 225-5487, 223-3326 | Sat Apr 06 1991 16:32 | 6 | 
|  |     Okay, from what I understand of the D70, you get 30 voices.  And, the
    percussion counts for those voices.  But, it is smart enough to take
    attack portions when they are no longer used, allowing a timber to hang
    on with its release portions only.
    
    Steve
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