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Conference napalm::commusic_v1

Title:	* * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * *
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Created:	Thu Feb 20 1986
Last Modified:	Mon Aug 29 1994
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	2852
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2462.0. "Zoom 9002" by RANGER::ECLPSE::ROBERT (Tom rOss Robert - The DeLorean Kid!) Mon Oct 01 1990 13:10

  One reason I like subscribing to Electronic Musician in addition to Keyboard,
  is the fact that they cover more realms of Electronic music, ie not just
  geared towards Keyboards/SGUs/etc.   Anyways, case in point, their latest
  issue gave a review of the new Zoom 9002 Guitar Effects Processor.
  They gave it a great review, so while I happened to be at Daddy's I checked
  it out... and then bought it!

  I know you may be saying that this topic is more suited for a guitar notes
  file, but it may interest some here...  In fact, Zoom is a new Japanese 
  company formed by ex Korg engineers.  For a first product, they're on to 
  something!  (I just dable in guitar, but this unit has impressed all my
  guitar playing friends.  In fact, one friend works at Mc Duff's Music in
  Shrewsbury and his boss liked it so much he's going to try to carry the line)

  This little box, about the size/weight of a single ordinary "stomp" box,
  contains a multitude of effects:  Compression, Distortion (both Analog),
  EQ, Phasing, Chorusing, Pitch Shifting, Reverb, and Delay (all Digital).
  Up to 6 effects can be used at once.  It also includes some misc "special
  effects", including and my favorite, a "talk-box" type effect as in the
  styles of Peter Frampton and Joe Walsh.

  The unit has not one, but two headphone jacks and "simulates amplifier
  output"  (i.e. no need to mic an amp)  You plug the stereo output cable
  (provided) right into your stereo or recording deck.  So it's good for both
  live performance and studio.  They even give you a stereo audio input
  (mini-plug) so you can plug in your tape deck or CD player and jam along
  with it!

  What also impressed me about the product from a packaging side is that they 
  give you just about all the "accessories" with it.  Including a rechargable 
  nicad battery which lasts about 3 hours on a full charge -- along with the
  AC adaptor.  (bye-bye 9 volt transitors!)  And a little remote control which 
  gives you access to the patch buttons, that velcros to your guitar, velcro 
  tape included!

  Price:  EM's list price is $480, Daddy's has them for $400!

  What I want to know is if anyone else has heard about this company and
  what future products it might come out with.  The guy at Daddy's said that
  they're coming out with a single rack space unit which will be about the
  equivalent of 4 9002s and then some, but price ~$1700.

-Tom

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
2462.1	Finally!	PAULJ::HARRIMAN	Deb in Air	`Mon Oct 01 1990 15:21`	11
	They were at the AES convention in NYC earlier this year. I have a bunch of literature from them. I've been waiting for them to actually market the stuff. I'll go home and see if I can dig it up. The 9002 was the only working prototype they had at the time, and it was vaporware until you posted your note. There were some other rackmount things they were planning on introducing, but I can't recall what they were right now. /pjh
2462.2		DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVID	The sea refuses no river....	`Tue Oct 02 1990 10:36`	12
	re: vaporware My local dealer has had them over well over a month. nice toy, expensive, a bit noisy but a nice toy. I couldn't imagine actually using one on stage though...especially with their itty-bitty "finger switch" rig. their 4 seperate/independant digital processors in one box rig is nice also...but pricy at $1700 list... dbii
2462.3	One Man's Band...	RANGER::ROBERT		`Tue Oct 02 1990 15:02`	14
	Hmm, I didn't find it "expensive" considering all it gives you in a small convient package. In fact, the EM reivew commented on it's cost effectiveness. But I suppose it's subjective. True, it is a bit noisy on certain effects and could be clumsy on stage. I'll have to see how that works out. There is an add in Keyboard for their new rack-mount unit the last reply mentioned, it's called the Zoom 9010. Nice concept of having seperate independent FX processors in one unit, but to me $1700 IS expensive! -Tom
2462.4	Zoom 9002 endorsement; question	MAIL::EATOND		`Sun Oct 28 1990 17:14`	20
	I really like my Zoom 9002! I picked it up used (!) at a local store and have found no more need for anything else for guitar (well, I am saving a Rat pedal, just for backup). It is not as noisy as the Rockman X100, and a lot more versatile. (I was never quite content with the distortion sound on the X100, and you couldn't alter it beyond limiting the level of the signal you drove into it). Here's a general question for y'all (hey, I did move south, y'know)... Using the Zoom 9002 to give my electric guitar distortion, it sounds just fine straight into my PA system. But if I plug the Rat pedal in line (minus the Zoom) into the board to handle distortion (i.e., my backup system), I get what sounds like a blown speaker, particularly in the hi-end (this is a bi-amped system). Now I know the Zoom gizmo has a speaker emulator filter to make it sound like a guitar amp is miked into the PA, but that shouldn't account for the Rat pedal causing the PA to break up. There's no clipping going on on the board, either. It seems that its just not a good combination. Any ideas? Dan
2462.5	You Really Got Me	KEYS::MOELLER	Silopsism's not for everyone	`Mon Oct 29 1990 13:54`	9
	Dan, I'd think that the Rat pedal is further amplifying the signal, causing breakup, but: >causing the PA to break up. There's no clipping going on on the board, >either. I take it the Rat pedal is clean by itself..
2462.6	Time to spend more money?	STLACT::EATON		`Fri Nov 02 1990 11:19`	9
	Just getting back from beautiful Colorado.... I don't know what's up, either. At first I thought I was blowing my high-frequency driver. But it seems to work fine on most other signals. The other day I tried a distortion guitar patch on one of my keyboards, and it seemed to do a similar thing with the high-freq driver. Maybe it is on its way out? Dan