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| 2295.1 | This is a DIN cable, can you say that? | TOCATA::PICKETT | David - Beware of the dogma. | Thu Mar 22 1990 15:29 | 6 | 
|  |     Dunno about the address, but you may wish to consult the book 'MIDI for
    Musicians' by Craig Anderton. It has the MIDI spec as an appendix. The
    spec hasn't changed a lot since rev 1.0. The rest of the book is all
    but worthless.
    
    dp
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| 2295.2 | part 2... | TOCATA::PICKETT | David - Beware of the dogma. | Thu Mar 22 1990 15:43 | 12 | 
|  |     Oh yeah, and part 2....
    
    According to an ad in EM 3/90 pg56 
    
    PC MIDI Card $119 from Music Quest  214-881-7408
    
    I cannot vouch for this, but I remembered the ad, and it looks like 
    what you need. Also, you can consult Byte mag from a few years back,
    they had a two part article on building your own IBMPC MIDI card.
    Fairly cheap, as I recall.
    
    dp
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| 2295.3 | Do not pay list | STAR::NORCOTT | Wakarimasu ka? | Thu Mar 22 1990 21:36 | 8 | 
|  | RE:    
    PC MIDI Card $119 from Music Quest  214-881-7408
   
Get the card, I have one and it works great.  Do not pay full price,
get it mail order from Soundware (800-333-4554) for $99.
Bill Norcott
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| 2295.4 | what are you gonna write, anyway? | SWAV1::STEWART | As a matter of fact, it's all dark | Fri Mar 23 1990 15:01 | 18 | 
|  | >	2	 Where do I get the hardware to plug into the PC - like 
>	         the Card with the Midi plugs/sockets?  Or do I have to 
>	         make 'em myself and if so HOWWWWWWWWW?
	Another alternative for this might be from MusicQuest (??)...I
	forget the actual name of the outfit.  I bought my MPU-401 clone
	board (the Roland MPU-401 is the original and default standard
	for PC clone MIDI interfaces) from these guys and got a real
	stupid sequencer as part of the deal.  The only reason I mention
	these guys at all is that they also offer a C programmers toolkit
	for writing your own stuff.  Might give you a head start on your
	project.  Check the back pages of EM.  If you can't find them I
	could be persuaded to sell you my virgin copies...I've never had
	the time/inclination to look at the stuff.
	P.S. the board I got from these guys doesn't do tape sync, 
	either...fine print in the back of one of the manuals
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| 2295.5 | MIDI current-loop spec, please? | CTHULU::YERAZUNIS | Iconoclasm as a way of life... | Tue Oct 23 1990 18:44 | 17 | 
|  |     
    A quick question to anyone who happens to have a MIDI 1.0 spec at
    their fingertips:
    
    I) MIDI inputs are defined as a current-loop; typically an LED input to an
    optoisolator.  What is the expected minimum impedance (i.e. is there an
    inline resistor?)
    
    II) MIDI outputs are defined as current loop drivers; what's the
    required minimum/maximum voltage and min/max current?  Or do they 
    just give an op-amp part and an in-the-line resistor?
    
    
    Reason I ask: I wanna build a MIDI "Star Coupler" and I wanna build
    it cheap.  So what if it loses a few notes once in a while... :-)
    
    	-Bill
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| 2295.6 | This help? | WEFXEM::COTE | Light, sweet, crude... | Tue Oct 23 1990 20:11 | 27 | 
|  |     
>    A quick question to anyone who happens to have a MIDI 1.0 spec at
>    their fingertips:
 
    Just happen to have the specs right here...
       
>    I) MIDI inputs are defined as a current-loop; typically an LED input to an
>    optoisolator.  What is the expected minimum impedance (i.e. is there an
>    inline resistor?)
 
    There's a 220ohm resister between pin 4 of the MIDI in and PIN 1 of the
    opto. (Typically a Sharp PC-900)
       
<    II) MIDI outputs are defined as current loop drivers; what's the
    required minimum/maximum voltage and min/max current?  Or do they 
    just give an op-amp part and an in-the-line resistor?
    
    The spec defines the circuit as 5mA current loop, optos should require
    less than 5mA to turn on (logical 0). Rise and fall times <2usec.
    +5V running thru a 220ohm resister. No min/max voltage given.
    
    Edd
    
    Reason I ask: I wanna build a MIDI "Star Coupler" and I wanna build
    it cheap.  So what if it loses a few notes once in a while... :-)
    
    	-Bill
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| 2295.7 | The definitive answer. | EICMFG::BURKE | Jim Burke, @UFC | Wed Oct 24 1990 19:01 | 9 | 
|  |     ...hardware expert speaking (short burnt fingers, note)...
    
    The diagram I have has a +5v going into (coming out of) the MIDI OUT
    port. And there's a 200 Ohm doobrie inbetween.
    
    Any more questions Bill: don't be afraid to ask (!)
    
    Jim
    
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| 2295.8 | So far, so good. | CTHULU::YERAZUNIS | May the moon light your way, till the wind sets you free. | Thu Oct 25 1990 17:58 | 7 | 
|  |     So, electronically speaking, the MIDI output port ought to look like
    a "perfect" 5 volt source with a 220 ohm resistor in series, and a 
    MIDI input port ought to look like a 220 ohm resistor?  
    
    Or do I have one too many 220 ohm resistors?
    
    	-Bill
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| 2295.9 |  | WEFXEM::COTE | Light, sweet, crude... | Thu Oct 25 1990 18:24 | 20 | 
|  |                                                           o +5V
    midi in                                  |-------     |
                                            2|      |6    | 270ohm
    pin 5----------------------------o-------|      |-----+/\/\/\
                                     V IN914 |PC900 |            |
                                     + (D1)  |      |-----+------+--->UART
    pin4-------------------/\/\/\/---o-------|      |     |
                           220ohm           1|---+---     |
                                                 |5       V to thru
                                               -----
                                                ---
                                                 -
    midi out
                       220ohm
    +5V---------------/\/\/\/------Pin4
                |
               ||------------------pin2 (to shield)
                |
    from UART----------/\/\/\/-----pin5
                        220ohm
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| 2295.10 | And what does "idle" sound like? | CTHULU::YERAZUNIS | You can't fall off the floor. | Fri Oct 26 1990 10:48 | 7 | 
|  |     OK, thanks; it seems that there's a total of 660 ohms in the line- one
    on each leg of the transmitter, and one in the reciever.  No problem!
    
    Now, is the "idle" condition with no current flowing, or with current
    flowing?  (a 1 or a 0 coming out of the UART) ?
    
    	-Bill
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