| Title: | * * Computer Music, MIDI, and Related Topics * * | 
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    I just went to the music shop and asked about the Yamaha EMQ-1 �250
    
    It is billed as a `Tapless Recorder', but is a sequencer/disk drive.
    
    It is 8 track.  Apparently you can do bulk dumps, or record a
    performance.  The guy in the shop said you can record, say a Bass drum,
    on track 1, then play back and record the snare wherever you want it,
    playback and put in Toms, and so on.
    
    Now that seems, to me anyway, a pretty easy and cheap way to save
    songs.
    
    But the concerns I have are;
    
    	1.	Once recorded can you edit? (it has FF/REW/PLAY & RECORD)
    
    	2.	It uses `Quick Discs'.  These are 2.8" and therefore not
    		standard.
    
    If anyone has any knowledge on this I would be grateful.  I will post
    the full spec later, when I have the catalogue.
    
    
    Mattyb
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| 2257.1 | Avoid QD Sequencers If You Want To Edit | AQUA::ROST | Everyone loves those dead presidents | Wed Feb 07 1990 10:10 | 13 | 
|     
    "Quick Disks" in the US are a disaster, they are hard to find and
    expensive.   Despite the fact that they store much less than the 3.5"
    variety they cost about three times as much.
    
    I'll wager a guess that other than erasing and overdubbing it probably
    has no editing features (i.e. cut and paste type stuff).  Most of the
    home-type sequencers like the Korg SQD-8, Roland PR-100 (both of which
    also use QD) have none.
    
    							Brian
    
    
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| 2257.2 | Alternative? | SHAPES::BROWNM | A sound formed in a vacuum... | Wed Feb 07 1990 10:25 | 6 | 
|     OK, so that's out!
    
    But what's the alternative, within �300
    
    
    Mattyb
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| 2257.3 | how much we talkin? | LEDDEV::ROSS | shiver me timbres.... | Wed Feb 07 1990 10:30 | 6 | 
|     whats the exchange rate today?
    
    QX5D goes for what these days?
    
    rr
    
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| 2257.4 | almost an Atari's worth | HUNEY::MACHIN | Wed Feb 07 1990 11:13 | 7 | |
|     The QX5FD is heavily discounted in the U.K. now (300 pounds).
    
    Mind you,  you're getting close the the going rate for an ATARI
    520 with Pro 12...
    
    Richard
                      
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| 2257.5 | Thanks | SHAPES::BROWNM | A sound formed in a vacuum... | Wed Feb 07 1990 11:51 | 7 | 
|     Yeah, that's a good idea!
    
    If the Atari's miles better, why do they market such hardware?
    
    
    
    Mattyb
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| 2257.6 | P.T. Barnum's theory... | WEFXEM::COTE | Bain Dramaged | Wed Feb 07 1990 12:12 | 6 | 
|     Probably for the same reason someone could sell my mom and dad a
    $10K organ that lacks MIDI... ("You paid HOW MUCH????")
    
    Some people just don't know, or care.
    
    Edd
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| 2257.7 | there are advantages.. | HUNEY::MACHIN | Wed Feb 07 1990 12:21 | 9 | |
|     That's not strictly fair. Many people prefer hardware sequencers,
    either because they're used to them or because they don't take to
    point and grunt techniques. The QX5 is pretty powerful -- you can
    define macros and things to make your life easier, and they're probably
    pretty robust. 
    
    Also, using a mouse makes your hand hurt.
    
    Richard.
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| 2257.8 | so there too | KOBAL::DICKSON | You could be an ocarina salesman | Wed Feb 07 1990 13:46 | 1 | 
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| 2257.9 | aspca member | GLOWS::COCCOLI | Thela Hun Gingeet | Wed Feb 07 1990 20:35 | 3 | 
|     
    
    RE .7      Using a mouse for WHAT??
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| 2257.10 | re: .9 : you card! | HUNEY::MACHIN | Thu Feb 08 1990 04:40 | 9 | |
|     AAAAAgagagaga.
    
    I actually meant using the Atari mouse for manipulating the on-screen
    pointer. 
    
    Swings and roundabouts, horses for courses, one person's meat etc. I
    must admit, I was sold on hardware sequencers before I tried Cubase.
    
    Richard.
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| 2257.11 | Tech Spec | SHAPES::BROWNM | A sound formed in a vacuum... | Thu Feb 08 1990 08:18 | 21 | 
|     Okay folks, here's the lowdown according a Yamaha leaflet
    
    Spec;
    Memory Capacity	: 6000 notes, 60kB, 9 songs max
    Recording Medium	: 2.8" Quick Disc
    Modes		: Record, Overdub, Playback
    Control & Switches	: Start/Pause, Rew, FF, Stop, Function, Speed + -,
    			  To disc, From disc, Overdub, Record, Clock, Power
    Indicators		: Song number, play, record, overdub, speed, to
    			  disc, from disc, verify, function, error
    			  messages, in use lamp, MIDI data lamp
    Input/Output	: MIDI In, Out 1, Out 2, DC In, DC Out
    Dimensions	WxDxH	: 218x215x44mm
    Incl. Accessories	: Quick Disc x 1, MIDI cable 1m x 1, DC cord x1,
    			  Holder x 2, Mounting Plate x 2
    
    
    Well there you are.
    
    
    Matty
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| 2257.12 | Save your money | WEFXEM::COTE | Bain Dramaged | Thu Feb 08 1990 10:37 | 1 | 
| 2257.13 | not enuf memory OR disk space | LEDDEV::ROSS | shiver me timbres.... | Thu Feb 08 1990 14:03 | 5 | 
|     
    agree.
    
    rr
    
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| 2257.14 | Did I Miss Something? | DRUMS::FEHSKENS | Thu Feb 08 1990 18:33 | 5 | |
|     re .11 - sounds like a Roland MSQ-100; you can pick those up used
    (discontinued, obsolete) for $50 - $100.
    
    len.
    
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| 2257.15 | it's trash | GLOWS::COCCOLI | Thela Hun Gingeet | Thu Feb 08 1990 22:46 | 3 | 
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| 2257.16 | I get the point! | SHAPES::BROWNM | Eee, it's grand up north | Fri Feb 09 1990 04:59 | 1 |