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| 2156.1 |  | HAMER::COCCOLI | Smart Patrol | Tue Nov 07 1989 15:02 | 3 | 
|  |     
    
      Why...all of them, of course.
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| 2156.2 |  | WEFXEM::COTE | OK, who wants a Tangwich?? | Tue Nov 07 1989 15:10 | 6 | 
|  |     While .1 is quite correct, don't be intimidated. You don't really
    have to know how to use them, just owning them is the goal.
    
    Make sure you save enough $ for mousse. That's VERY important...
    
    Edd
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| 2156.3 |  | SALSA::MOELLER | Fun with Frangibles | Tue Nov 07 1989 16:32 | 4 | 
|  |     Just save your money and read each and every reply in this conference,
    and you'll be MIDIed before you can say, "Boulez is a Fascist."
    
    karl
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| 2156.4 | :) | KOBAL::DICKSON |  | Tue Nov 07 1989 17:06 | 17 | 
|  |     Judging by the ads in "Guitar Player" magazine, the thing that all such
    people have in common is that they wear shiny leatheroid clothing with
    shirts open to the navel, have long unkempt blond hair, and stand
    around with their feet about a yard apart.
    
    I think if you concentrate on the look you will be successful.  At live
    concerts just play Boulez records through fuzz-boxes at painfully loud
    levels.  Above all the screaming nobody will know the difference.
    
    You can carry a guitar-shaped thing if you want, but it is not
    necessary to actually plug it in.
    
    All your albums will be recorded by studio musicians anyway, so no need
    to worry about that.
    
    Remember this is the *entertainment* business, not the *music*
    business.
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| 2156.5 |  | HAMER::COCCOLI | Smart Patrol | Wed Nov 08 1989 10:31 | 6 | 
|  |     
      By the way, I thought the originator of this topic dislikes rock
    music. Why the change of heart?.      *^}
    
    					Rich
    
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| 2156.6 | $ SET TONGUE/IN="cheek", no doubt. | DYO780::SCHAFER | Brad - boycott hell. | Wed Nov 08 1989 11:22 | 0 | 
| 2156.7 |  | MIZZOU::SHERMAN | ECADSR::SHERMAN 235-8176, 223-3326 | Wed Nov 08 1989 11:30 | 11 | 
|  | Hey, Tom, if you *really* want to be a pro, you need to superglue your hair 
and dye it blue.  And, make sure each hit you write uses the same chord
structures for the verses and the chorus, has a back beat, is 4/4, 120 bpm,
and has no polysyllabic words.  Then, you'll be ready to buy computer equipment.
Get a drum machine that has lots of presets.  I must warn you, however that
you have already tarnished your chances.  First, you have musical talent.
Second, you feel comfortable with acoustic instruments.  Third, you already
know MIDI.  Fourth, your mind is still intact.  Face it, there's too much 
working against you to become a pro ... ;)
Steve
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| 2156.8 | rock music only - maybe he's flipped | SMURF::NEWHOUSE |  | Wed Nov 08 1989 12:36 | 6 | 
|  |     re: .4
    spandex is out?!?  leatheroid is in?!?  shoot.  back to the drawing
    board.  But anyway, .0 wanted instruments, not attire so I think maybe
    you should get an EPS.  This way you could sample the squeeks on your
    matching leather furniture, satisfying both looking good and sounding
    like the sugar cubes at the same time.
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| 2156.9 | correct syntax: $ SET TONGUE /CHEEK=(IN) | MILKWY::JANZEN | cf. ANT::CIRCUITS,ANT::UWAVES | Wed Nov 08 1989 13:46 | 7 | 
|  |     Leatheroid is out; paint is in.
    How about automatic composition of rock songs?  Anybody want to write a
    functional specification for software that writes rock songs with
    minimum of creative input from human beings?
    
    oh, maybe that's been done.......
    Tom
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| 2156.10 | can you point and grunt? | KALLON::EIRIKUR | CDA Product Manager | Wed Nov 08 1989 15:38 | 13 | 
|  | >    functional specification for software that writes rock songs with
>    minimum of creative input from human beings?
>    
>    oh, maybe that's been done.......
>    Tom
More than once.  In my possesion,  I have CybComposer from the Kurzweil
Research Foundation.  It will do holiday inn jazz, too.  Pour la Mac.
I've got V 0.39 or somesuch.  
	Eirikur
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| 2156.11 | Clips Notes | KOBAL::DICKSON |  | Wed Nov 08 1989 16:02 | 20 | 
|  |     I once toyed with the idea of an automatic composer for bluegrass
    arrangements, which are very formulaic.  I got the idea from a banjo
    backup instruction book that had a bunch of one-measure licks in
    categories like "vamp", "forward-roll", "reverse-roll", "fill-in" and
    so on, in various keys, along with templates for when to use them.
    Looked kind of like Clip-Art to me.
    
    The idea was to combine libraries of Clip-Music with some
    "expert-system" rules for combining them, plus the usual suite of
    transformation algorithms for key-changes, etc.  You pick a set of
    templates (or use random numbers), supply two melody lines (A-part and
    B-part), and it could work out the arrangement.
    
    Each instrument needs its own library of clips, plus rules about how to
    add ornamentation to a melody.  (A banjo replaces long notes with rolls
    while a mandolin uses tremolo, for instance.)
    
    You could even do this by hand with the appropriate music editor or
    sequencer program.  Famous players could sell clip-art of their most
    popular licks.  Cut and paste your way to the top of the charts.
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| 2156.12 | Music Editors search/replace? | MILKWY::JANZEN | cf. ANT::CIRCUITS,ANT::UWAVES | Wed Nov 08 1989 16:34 | 4 | 
|  |     I think Dickson's idea is doable.
    On the editing side, does anyone see music editors with search/replace,
    merge (or include) in place, ?
    Tom
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| 2156.13 | KCS/PVG | TALK::HARRIMAN | See Figure 1 | Thu Nov 09 1989 10:11 | 16 | 
|  | 
	Dr. T's KCS has the Programmable Variations Generator. Amazing stuff, 
	I have just scratched the surface with it. You set certain arbitrary
	rules ("protections","restrictions") and it applies these rules to
	your stream of MIDI events (duration,timing, pitch, velocity). You can
	have it create chord changes based on your restrictions, or trills,
	or whatever. Like I said, I have it, I'm futzing with it, but the whole
	concept of letting a computer augment what I'm thinking for music is
	taking some open-mindedness and getting used to. I'm still doing some
	very simple concepts like allowing it to modify a string of C 4 ON 
	events to see what it does to them.
	Amazing what you can do with computers, huh. 
	/pjh
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| 2156.14 | Finale merges/edits | NWD002::EVANS_BR |  | Thu Nov 09 1989 14:50 | 10 | 
|  |     re: Music Editors search/replace?
    
    Finale can do that -- and it's even aimed at the Pro marketplace.
    
    Bruce
    (who-is-not-certain-if-he-should-maintain-straightface-or-tongue-in-cheek)
    
    
    PS: why is it you guys always take some humorous topic, and make
    it into something serious!!!!!     :-)
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| 2156.15 |  | DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVID | Rock and Roll doctor | Fri Nov 10 1989 10:32 | 7 | 
|  | Tom save your midimoney...I saw an ad yesterday on TV for jsut the thing. Wamco
or tyco or somebody makes a plastic electric guitar look-alike that comes with 
preprogrammed licks...you just have to get a hairdo and look good...
dbii
ps: good luck!
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| 2156.16 | quit art the artsy way | JUNDA::Schuchard | % | Fri Nov 10 1989 14:08 | 10 | 
|  | 
        perhaps down at Mobius they have a performing lobotmist? Could
        be a fun entertaining way to overcome all your aforementioned
        shortcomings?
        
        (hey baby i shed my braaaiiinnnss fer you...)
        
                bs
                
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| 2156.17 | and the Beat goes on...... | POBOX::KOTSCHARJANA |  | Fri Nov 10 1989 18:38 | 28 | 
|  |     
    The following is required:
    
    1) Harley-Davidson Motorcycle (good for stage presence)
    2) Long Hair (un-washed) 
    3) Skin tight leather clothes
    4) Tons of Marshall Amp's/Cabinets
    5) Charvel 6  (fire crackle finish)
    6) Heavy Floyd Rose Tremolo Guitar Solo's
    7) 10,000 fans  (teeny bopers)
    8) One diamond earring.
    9) one very large bag of cotton
    10) 8 to 10  Tele-Prompters
    11) Power Drummer
    12) Power Bass player
    13) 2-4 Female Backup singers
    14) Lots of Lights,Smoke,Laser Lights etc...
    15) Mega effects Rack
    16) One each Pre-Recorded Performance (midi controlled)
    17) 12-15 Security Guards (in leather jackets with bands logo on
        back)
    18) One Magic bus.
    19) T shirts (3-4 various styles between 15-25$ ea.)
    20) One Hit song!
    
    
        Did I forget something? Oh Yeah.. Lots of Money helps too.                                                       
    
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| 2156.18 |  | SALSA::MOELLER | Fun with Frangibles | Fri Nov 10 1989 18:46 | 6 | 
|  | >               <<< Note 2156.17 by POBOX::KOTSCHARJANA >>>
>    9) one very large bag of cotton
    
    .. the cotton is for EARPLUGS, right ?
    
    karl
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| 2156.19 |  | STORMY::RILEY | I *am* the D.J. | Sat Nov 11 1989 22:19 | 7 | 
|  |     >>    9) one very large bag of cotton
    
    >>>.. the cotton is for EARPLUGS, right ?
    Or to properly fill out item #3
    
    "jackin' the house", Bob (did I say that?)
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| 2156.20 | How to tell a pro | VOLKS::RYEN | Rick Ryen 240-6501 AET1-1/A6 | Mon Nov 13 1989 18:24 | 5 | 
|  |  True music professionals select equipment based upon the
 value of product endorsement contracts. All other
 considerations are secondary.
Rick
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