Conference napalm::commusic_v1

    Do you mean I*M PC? or any personal computer?  Deluxe Music
    ConstructionSet on the Amiga has music notation input.
    TOm

    There is a new program called "Score" from the IBM PC which does
    what you are talking about.  It appears very capable but also very
    complex.
    
    There is a review in this month's issue of _Keyboard_ magazine.
    
    		Good luck,
    		Derek

    YES, I meant IBM (it's SO hard to say it) PC, or compatibles.
    
    I will check out this months Keyboard (that is the ONLY mag we
    don't subscribe to)(at least it seems that way) for that SCORE
    review.  I guess I should take the time to check the last six
    months MUSIC TECHNOLOGY, ELECTRONIC MUSICIAN, etc. etc.; since
    I usually save a years worth..
    

    There is another product out for the Mac (and soon to be I*M) called
    Finale.  There have been two page ads in the last two issues of
    Keyboard.  The thing is quite pricey, though (ca. $1K). 

-b

    I use Jim Miller's Personal Composer (for IBMs and compatibles).
    I highly recommend it for inputting notes, as you want to do. It
    can be had from Musication in New York City for around $400.00. It's
    quite a versatile piece of software and does complex sequencing/
    editing as well. Keyboard magazine always has a full page add in
    it (under Jim Miller, I believe, in the advertizers index in the
    back).
    
    Musication has the best price that I know of. By the way, Score,
    mentioned in a previous note, seems to have good specs also, although
    I haven't used it.
    
    Good luck!
    
    Bill

I mentioned in an earlier note that I was working with a prof from Worcester
State College using MESA. I highly recommend that you avoid this product like
the plague!

reasons...

high price
poor documentation
no support
*VERY* user unfriendly

We finally got it working, but it is very difficult to use. I can't imagine
why Roland has chosen the IBM PC as its only official software system? Put
it back in the office and get an AMIGA!

dave

    I'd like to make another comment about Personal Composer (note .5).
    It seems to work very well in extracting parts from a score, creating
    a new file with just the part you have extracted. If your score
    extends over several pages, it leaves each line exactly as you have
    entered it, but just compacts it onto however many number of pages
    you'll need for this particular part.
    
    You can then transpose the part up or down, and print it. This,
    to me, is a real compositional time saver. You can input the parts
    manually as you are describing, play them back through a
    synthesizer(s), extract, transpose, and print parts. It also supports
    Post Script Laser printing, which from the examples looks pretty
    darn good.
    
    The part I don't like about this software is that when you do it
    the other way, that is, play a melody and convert it TO a score,
    Personal Composer only puts 2 measures on a line, which is not the
    way the real world works. Four measures per line would seem more
    reasonable.
    
    Also, the documentation is incredible - I think it's about 5 or
    600 pages or so, and well written. There are so many features, that
    it would take some time to learn the entire system.
    
    
    Bill
                                     
    

    I know this isn't the question, but anyway Deluxe Music for the
    Amiga can also select staffs for printing as parts, and it also
    has adjustable bars per line.  I usually use one because my music
,     is often fairly complex.	Sometimes I temporarily use say 8 bars
    per
    line to see the big picture, although everything gets squished.
    It can also transpose a whole piece up and down; I did it last night
    It has a fairly compact manual, in part
    because it runs on a system called Intuition (the window system)
    and is easy to learn.
    
Tom