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    I get just the teensy bit irked when an album runs over 45 minutes,
    no matter how many/few songs are on it...
    
    Edd

    
    So if you really want to piss him off you should put out a  one  hour
    CD. :-)
    
    Seriously though, 9 * 4 should be enough.  You could probably squeeze
    in two more.  In general if we are  talking  instrumental,  I  prefer
    longer pieces.  Give it a chance to develop.
    
    _sjz.

    
    Actually, there is a grass roots "New age/electronic" market out
    there.  
    
    I'm not sure how to tap into it, but a number of college
    stations in the Boston area have shows playing stuff from Tangerine
    Dream to Throbbing Gristle.

    Plus, labels like Audion and Private Music are working their way
    into the mainstream.
    
    Some places to send your tape to:
    
    Keyboard and EM Magazines....if they run a review of it, you'll
    probably get some mail-order bites.
    
    Contact any and all college radio stations you know of locally and
    try to find who does the New Age or electronic or weird noise or
    fusion show(s) and get them a copy, and follow up on how they like
    it.  Airplay can lead to more mail-order sales.
    
    My house  8^)  8^)  8^)  8^)
    
    
    
    						Brian
    
    
    

    Before you do it, I suggest you read 'The Platinum Rainbow' by Riordan
    and somebody else.
    
    For the record, anybody trying to get *anything* performed or published
    or whatever should read it.

    Steve, commercial albums/cassettes max out normally at 45 min.,
    or 22 min/side.  Unfortunately there aren't any 45-min. cassettes
    available thru retail.  However, cassette duplicators DO have these,
    and sometimes will sell some.  If you're happy with your master,
    you might consider having a duplicator do 50 copies.. believe me,
    there's nothing more tedious than dubbing cassettes one (or even
    four) at a time. Also the continuous playing ruins your (cassette)
    master.
    
    You've thought about a cover, and sticky cassette labels too I suppose.
    Handwritten labels don't make it. If you wish, VAXmail me and I
    can send you your very own copy of 'Produce Your Album on Cassette'.
    
    karl

    re:.4
    
    Well, I went to my library an looked for 'The Platinum Rainbow'.
    They don't got it.  Oh, well.  Is it one of those books that warns
    you about the sharks out there who promise you they'll publish your
    stuff for a 'small' fee, who have you sign a contract that ties
    you down, who want a little payola to play your stuff, etc.?
    
    Steve_who_expects_nothing_so_he's_never_*really*_disappointed

    re: .6
    
    It warns you about *everything*.  From shady management to good
    management to how to get a record deal to why you shouldn't make
    your own record.  Very insightful.  The other author's name is Bob
    Monaco.
    
    I ended up buying my own copy because of, among other reasons, all
    of the addresses of record companies, publishers, and managers.
    
    I can post the address here tomorrow.
    
    Ashley

    Oh yeah, the address of the publisher.  And the cost of the book.
    I believe it's Swordsman Press in Woodland Hills, CA.  I'll find
    out and post it all tomorrow.

    
    Anyone know of local places that will make professional copies of your
    cassettes?  I just glanced in the Yellow Pages for the Nashua, NH area
    and the only entry I see that mentions tape duplicating (listed under
    Recording Service - Sound & Video) is one in Revere, MA called
    Fleetwood Taple [sic] Duplicating Co.  The typo, "Taple," is actually
    *in* the phone book!
    
    Has anybody heard of or used this or any other duplicating company? 
    What was your experience and how much did it cost?
    
    Peter

From the Manchester, NH yellow pages, the following two places say they
do duplicating:

	Man from Mars Productions
		159 Orange St, Manchester
		668-0652

	Merrimack Recordings
		1200 S Mammoth Rd, Manchester
		624-1125

Or you could call one of the recording studios listed and ask them where
they get theirs duplicated.

I know someone who just finished a new casette album last month.  She said they
cost her $3 each, including stick on labels and black-and-white paper inserts.
(Not including assembly.  She stuck the label on and folded the insert herself
just before she sold it to me.)  She sells them for $8.  I don't know what
volume you need to order to get that price, nor do I know where she had it
done, although I know what studio she used, in Concord NH. 

	The Tape Complex in Boston does dupes.  You can also buy various
length cassettes from them.  I have no idea how good their copying is, but
I always stop in their for small tapes when I'm snooping in the music stores.

	Dan

    re: .Moeller
    
    While there ain't any 45 minute tapes out, I use 46 minute tapes
    all the time, to make albums of my music for my friends. 23 mins/side
    should be just enough for your music. And just enough to irk the
    living daylights out of Edd. 
    
    dp (who can still remember Edd asking 'Is this gonna be long?' in
        the middle of one of my 7-8 minute creations ;^)

    C'mon, Dave, cut me some slack!! I had just knocked back a few
    Grolsch's and my kidneys had this increased sense of urgency!!
    
    :^)
    
    Edd

    I friend of mine did a project at my studio and had 200 copies
    made at the Tape Complex.  The quality is very good.  She also
    had inserts and labels made at a copy place in Cambridge.  I'll
    find out about prices tapes, labels and inserts because I'm interested
    in doing this also.
    
    Dave

    
    	The Fleetwood studio mentioned earlier used to make Radio
    	commercials 15 years ago. They have a reputation for not
    	keeping up with the times, they may have just recently updated
    	to four tracks.
    
    	Guy Novello
    

    
    	When I advertised an alternate set of sounds for the D-50, I made
    a demo tape displaying several of the sounds for customers to hear
    before buying.  I bought tapes through mail-order from a company
    in the mid-west, I think.  Their name is Full Compass Systems, and
    their number is 1-800-356-5844.  The tapes I bought were 10
    minutes/side;  they are generic tapes, but very good quality.  You
    can order normal or high bias, and they have many different sizes
    (i.e., length per side).
    	I had duplicating done from a company in Western Mass, who now
    has an office around Boston, too.  They are an entertainment agency
    called Rack-a-Disk, but offer tape duplicating and other services.
    I found their quality of duplication to be very good;  in fact,
    my "master" was made direct from the D-50 into a JVC tape deck,
    and the copies sounded better than the original!  Give them a call;
    tell them I sent you -- 1-413-256-8526.  They also have an "800"
    number, but I can't remember it off hand;   you could check the
    yellow pages or call directory assistence for their office in Amherst
    or Burlington.
    
    	Good Luck,
    			Ron

    Thanks, guys!  This is great info.  I expect I'll probably make
    a couple of high-bias masters and check out some of these sources.
    It was mentioned that it is not a good idea to do your own album.
    Is this because of home-quality versus studio-quality?  Or, is it
    that if you do your own and approach the powers that be you'll run
    into difficulties?
    
    Steve

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