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| 937.1 | contact Daddy's | SUBSYS::ORIN |  | Wed Sep 09 1987 10:44 | 8 | 
|  |     Hi Mike -
    
    I suggest you contact Daddy's Junky Music in Nashua N.H. They carry
    this keyboard and some used keyboards (603) 888-1160. They should have
    or be able to obtain information for you on how to contact Ensoniq
    and what models have which features.
   
    Dave
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| 937.2 | Info | JAWS::COTE | Note stuck? Try Kawai... | Wed Sep 09 1987 10:51 | 11 | 
|  |     Ensoniq Co. is located in Malvern, PA. Don't know the number...
    
    The easiest way to tell the newest from the old is by the color
    and location of the drive. The new models have the drive located
    on top and the older ones have it located in front.
    
    The anti-aliasing filter (150db/octave cut) is a $150 add on for
    the oldest models and is built into the newer and newest. I've got
    the filter. Be glad to demo if you're interested.
    
    Edd
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| 937.3 | Feel the keyboard, look at the buttons | CTHULU::YERAZUNIS | People explode all the time. Natural causes. | Wed Sep 09 1987 11:10 | 24 | 
|  |     The way to tell the oldest from the old is by the feel of the keyboard.
    
    Extremely old mirages have an unweighted keyboard, which some people
    say felt like playing on old sponges.  They went to the same keyboard
    feel as the ESQ (medium weight, low friction) about the time the ESQ
    came out. 
    
    Then they went from big buttons (about 1 cm x 1.5 cm) to little buttons
    like the ESQ has (about 5 mm by 1 cm).
    	
    Then they started making the Mirage DSK- which says "DSK" in big yellow
    letters,  and has the floppy disk above the pitch bend and mod wheels,
    rather than below them. 
               
    
    I thought the DSK couldn't use the input sampling filter, but did
    NOT have one built in.  (actually, you don't NEED the filter unless
    you are sampling at lower frequencies than the built-in filter can
    go.)
    
    Can any Mirage and Mirage DSK owners out there enter the specs for
    the sampling freq. limits of their respective machines?  It'd be
    nice to have them here.
                                                        
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| 937.4 |  | JAWS::COTE | Note stuck? Try Kawai... | Wed Sep 09 1987 12:22 | 3 | 
|  |     With the anti-aliasing filter, mine can sample at 50Khz.
    
    Edd
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| 937.5 | going going gone | JON::ROSS | synapses unite ! | Wed Sep 09 1987 14:32 | 3 | 
|  |     
    for like .5 seconds?
    
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| 937.6 | Quality vs. Quantity | JAWS::COTE | Note stuck? Try Kawai... | Wed Sep 09 1987 14:52 | 3 | 
|  |      Yep, but it's a CLEAN .5 sec....
    
    Edd
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| 937.7 | surfs up!!! | JON::ROSS | synapses unite ! | Wed Sep 09 1987 16:14 | 11 | 
|  |     
    Chock full o bits too. 
    
    8 big ones. +/- 1 lsb, I bet.  
    
    Ok call it .5 sec of 7 clean bits worth o stuff but at 50Khz
    thats alot of waves....
    huh?
    
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| 937.8 | Am I answering my own question? | LOLITA::DIORIO |  | Thu Sep 10 1987 15:11 | 16 | 
|  |     Thanks for all the help everybody! I found out some additional
    information that I'd like to share:
    
    Ensoniq's phone number: 215-647-3930
    
    Other ways to tell between the oldest and "newer" models:
    
    Oldest ones have all black buttons on the keypad.
    Newer ones have different colors as well, like gray, white?, etc.
    
    Newer ones have serial numbers above 1471 (that's what the Ensoniq
    rep *thought* anyway --he also said to be safe, go with units with
    numbers 1500 and up).
    
    Mike D.
    
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| 937.9 | Used Mirage for $700 | AQUA::ROST | Fast and bulbous, tight also | Tue Sep 15 1987 13:36 | 8 | 
|  |     
    If you are in MA, run do not walk to your phone...
    
    From this week's new WantAdvertiser...
    
    Mirage, $700....call Eric (Brockton) 587-2168
    
    
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| 937.10 | The one that got away! | LOLITA::DIORIO |  | Tue Sep 15 1987 13:45 | 5 | 
|  |     I just called, and this Mirage has been sold. Sh*t!!
    
    The search continues....
    
    MD
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| 937.11 | :^) | JAWS::COTE | 115db, but it's a DRY thud... | Tue Sep 15 1987 13:48 | 1 | 
|  |     
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| 937.12 | smiley, schmiley.... | JON::ROSS | synapses unite ! | Tue Sep 15 1987 15:21 | 5 | 
|  |     
    whats that little smirk, cote?
    
    hmmmm?
    
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| 937.13 | Hypothetically speaking... | JAWS::COTE | 115db, but it's a DRY thud... | Tue Sep 15 1987 16:05 | 5 | 
|  |     Does anyone know if the Mirage supports that "Overflow Mode" like
    the ESQ-1, where it ships any notes over the 8-voice limit down
    to the next one?????
    
    Edd
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| 937.14 | Ever thought of running for office? | AKOV76::EATOND | Sampled water-glass, slightly detuned | Tue Sep 15 1987 16:13 | 5 | 
|  | RE < Note 937.13 by JAWS::COTE >
	Good technique, Edd.  Change the subject.
	Dan
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| 937.15 | I get it now! | LOLITA::DIORIO |  | Wed Sep 16 1987 10:13 | 3 | 
|  |     RE: 11 Perhaps what Mr.Cote is alluding to is that he may have been
    the one to purchase that Mirage for $700! 
    
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| 937.16 | Search successful | LOLITA::DIORIO |  | Fri Oct 02 1987 11:21 | 12 | 
|  |     Well, I finally found the Mirage I wanted and picked it up last
    night! It came with a hard-shell case, over 20 disks, the Advanced
    Sampling Guide, and a stand. I love it! Got it just in time for
    the gig tonight. I do have an additional question about the factory
    disks however...
    
    I got a price list sent to me from Ensoniq with all the disks that
    they offer. I noticed that the disks that I got with my unit have
    all the same sounds, but they are arranged differently on the disks.   
    Is there any explanation for these differences?
    
    Mike D.
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| 937.17 | Basically no difference... | JAWS::COTE | BddddttttYEEeeoowww! (C. Hynde) | Fri Oct 02 1987 12:44 | 8 | 
|  |     There's really no explanation. Ensoniq just moved some of the
    samples around for whatever reason...
    
    I remember reading in The Transoniq Hacker (get a subscription)
    that most, if not all, the sample were identical to the earlier
    release. I can look up any differences if you want.
    
    Edd
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| 937.18 | wanna be a hacker | LOLITA::DIORIO |  | Fri Oct 02 1987 15:29 | 5 | 
|  |     re .17  Yeah, Edd if you can find out about any differences and post
    them, that'd be cool. Also...how do I get a subscription to The
    Transoniq Hacker? Got a subscription form?
    
    Mike D
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