Conference kaosws::canada

        That guy that the Prime Minister allegedly strangled is a no account
    thug. If he tries to press charges, he'll show himself to be the
    slimeball that he is.

    POLAR::WILSONC
    
    
    >>So our Prime Minister thinks it is O.K. to grab/strangle people who are
    >>in his face .
    
     ...and if he had been killed by a "lone nut"?
    
    If you want to plant yourself in the path of a world leader and shout at
    him, expect to be brushed aside. The only point of interest in this is
    that the PM had to do it personally.
    
    								Derek.
    
    (PS. Just for grins, try to get that close to Clinton while "protesting")

    
    Perhaps Clinton doesn't ignore his Secret Service escort and strut off
    into a crowd...nahh......perhaps he has the grace to not blame his
    staff when he has a bad day and loses his cool.   That's a petty
    performance whether you are a "world leader" or the head of a sweep-up
    crew.  
    
    The jerk that stood there yelling had nothing to do with it.
    
    Marshall  
    
    
    

    <--- You said it.
    
    "The jerk"

    
    The PM has a deathwish and the RCMP are only too happy to let
    him be on his way. I side with the RCMP.
    
    IMO

        This is absolute tripe. The RCMP has been less than effective in
    protecting our head of state. He better not be charged, and that little
    slug whiner ought to be arrested.

    re -.1
    
    "less than effective" .... more like pathetic and embarrassing.
    
    This is the leader of a country we're talking about here, not some
    corporate executive. There is no excuse for allowing anyone that close.
    If there's a possibility that the PM may wade into the crowd during
    some public event, the RCMP should have the resources to support it.
    
    Only in Canada.

    there was a blurb on the news last night that 1 of the 5 people
    (whoops, OFFICERS) was missing on the fateful afternoon so they were
    'playing short-handed'. Barf, a cop misses a shift so the Prime
    Minister has to shove his own way through a crowd? I think who ever is
    in charge of the PM's security needs a posting to the Yukon over this.
      It would not phase me a bit if 'we' couldn't get physically near the
    PM, especially in a crowd.  If you choose to even try it, I hope you
    get more than a chipped tooth for your troubles. I was waiting for
    a billy-club to come down on the dunce. I find it hard to believe this
    guy is contemplating laying charges, he should be charged for wasting
    space.
    (good bit on 22 MInutes - "Hey Jean, it was FLAG day, not FLOG day)

    Good for Jean!
    The way people generally treat politicians at rallies, its suprising he
    hasn't stiff-armed someone a long time ago.  
    I'd rather see Jean's 'man-o-the-people' act than Mulroney's ivory
    tower positioning.
    
    D

    Yes, me too.

    I need to get me one of them `Jumping Jean Protester Molesters' !

    A friend of mine's neighbor is an RCMP. He was asked to work as the
    PM's bodyguard on flag day but turned it down because the rest of
    the crew were all rookies...He was afraid something like this would
    happen...
    
    Ray.
    

    
    I for one have never considered Jean Chretien a great "head of State".
    
    The little "street fighter" from Shawinigan Sud is just living up to
    his name. The RCMP was told to let him have his way regarding lax
    security compared to other countries. He is paying the price now
    for the ability to mingle, or in fact go have a midnight snack 
    from the fridge at 24 Sussex in his skivvies. Better carry a
    soapstone carving wherever you go in this case.
    
    IMO of course.

    Oh I see, because ***YOU*** don't consider him a ***GREAT*** head of
    state then he deserves whatever happens to him. Including apparently,
    finding someone in his house in the middle of the night. I feel
    confident that he did not request the RCMP to let anyone who wanted to
    enter his house in the middle of the night, so please explain how
    "letting him have his way" caused this to happen. So I can find it, please
    show me where it is written that because you don't want strangers
    inside your house, that they cannot protect you from the outside ?
    
     Why not just tell us your agenda, and quit beating this dead horse.
    
    							Derek.

    Well, I think foaming at the mouth right in front of the prime minister
    is deplorable. Had this happened in the states, he would have been
    wrestled to the ground and incarcerated, and would be facing serious
    charges and would probably do time. Hell, if you even try and go near
    the white house with a knife, the sniper puts a lead pill in your
    head.

    we should arrange to get "jumping Jean" a little dog (petite chein!)
    The little beast could have avoided both incidents by putting the run
    on these 2 bohunks(sp?).
    A little brown mutt that Jean could take to these outings,
    he could call him "Canuck",  ie "sick 'em Canuck"
    "Canuck" could be deputized by the RCMP so he's covered when he bites
     someone's arse whilest defending his master (and ours).
    The whole of Canada would be sending Canuck gifts at Christmas.
    Canada would be at peace again.
    
    
    a dog is a man's best friend.

    You're owning up to your name Crook.  You're stealing that idea from the
    Americans.  American presidents always have mutts around them.  One of
    them (might be the current one for all I know) had a Cocker Spaniel for
    protection.  It created a market for Cocker Spaniels, kinda like when
    Princess Di spurred the  hat business  a few years back simply by
    wearing them. 
    
    But you gotta like those Americans, it is a good idea.  There's got to be a
    better name than Canuck though. Some people might think that the mutt is 
    a hockey player.  Any other suggestions for names out there?  How about 
    discussions around the breed of dog that Jean should get?  Maybe a 
    bulldog and he could call it Dief.
    
      

    THe American's got that idea from Mackenie King who's dog, Pat, was a
    constant and trusted advisor. 

    If it were me, I'd name it .....
    
    			Lucien
    
    SIT LUCIEN, STAY LUCIEN, ROLL OVER LUCIEN......
    
     And my personal fav....
    
    SHUT UP LUCIEN.
    
    							Derek.
    (PS. I use the last one on my dog all the time ;*) )
    
    :*)

    
    Hmmmm.. All who could resist choking a foam mouthed separatist
    in your face, please raise your virtual hands...
    
    
    I personally feel that any so-called head of state who walks
    around a crowd of separatists (on FLAG day) who are about to
    have their UI benefits slashed is either an idiot and/or is advised
    by those who possess room temperature IQ's. 
    
    Judging by his attempts at bicycle riding and skateboard jockeying,
    I am ashamed to have him globe trotting. I imagine the snickering
    of the other heads of state after JC leaves the meeting.
    
    KEEP HIM HOME AND LOCKED UP UNTIL HE CAN BE VOTED OUT. He needs to
    be protected from himself.
    
    
    IMO

    Oh I see, the reason you don't think he is a ***GREAT*** head of state
    is because he can't ride a skateboard. You know, with analysis like
    that, I am surprised you don't do political commentary for the press.
    
    							Derek

	Jean had a pitbull as a guard for a while, isn't he running
	for the Premier's chair in NewFoundLand.

	J'Aime la mutt

    I actually like the idea of leaders beating on people, it shows their
    humanity. It is only when the leaders bring out their armies with their
    sophisticated weaponry that it gets a little unfair. But then again the
    100,000 + workers who rallied in Hamilton this past weekend must have
    worried ole' Mike the Knife and his gaggle of conservs. 
    
    In fact I think all Leaders should do battle with at least one citizen
    every six months. It would keep them in shape, and give them something
    approaching noble to tell their grand children about.

    If this note was a USA topic instead of good ol' CANADA, most of these
    notes weould be whining about freedom of speech and democracy and all
    thos over rated concepts (:^)).  Funny, huh?  The last note talked
    about anti-Harris demonstrators.  Democracy is fine as long as you play
    by the rules: No threatening legislature; no intimidation, no bullhorns
    inches from the politician's ears.  Of course, it works the other way
    too.  The politician *must* be as fair as possible and provide the
    opportunity for fair speech and democracy to work.  There's been lotsa
    whining about how many people weren't able to bitch about the Tories
    omnibus bill.  Well, lots of people *were* able to.  The Harris gov't
    is being 'fair', and Jean C. is also being 'fair' in that he is not
    hiding away from the people or the issues.  END RAMBLE.
    
    Doug