Title: | ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference |
Notice: | Please spell ALL-IN-1 correctly - all CAPITALS! |
Moderator: | IOSG::PYE CE |
Created: | Fri Jul 01 1994 |
Last Modified: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 2716 |
Total number of notes: | 12169 |
T.R | Title | User | Personal Name | Date | Lines |
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2225.1 | Should be moved to 2206? | SHRMSG::HOWARD | On the hippest street in town | Mon Aug 26 1996 21:37 | 3 |
2225.2 | IOSG::LOCKWOOD | Do you like our owl? | Tue Aug 27 1996 08:59 | 22 | |
2225.3 | ACISS2::LENNIG | Dave (N8JCX), MIG, @CYO | Tue Aug 27 1996 11:49 | 2 | |
2225.4 | Gosh | IOSG::TALLETT | www-iosg.reo.dec.com/Tallett.html | Tue Aug 27 1996 13:22 | 12 |
2225.5 | TEAMLK::OATMAI::teamlk::gabree | Tue Aug 27 1996 14:25 | 15 | ||
2225.6 | IOSG::MARSHALL | Tue Aug 27 1996 15:55 | 8 | ||
2225.7 | get to "the POINT" | OGRI::63536::BELL | Martin Bell @BBP (M&U PSC) | Wed Aug 28 1996 09:24 | 24 |
2225.8 | I;m getting too old for this sort of thing :-) | IOSG::PYE | Graham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's Apprentice | Wed Aug 28 1996 11:46 | 3 |
2225.9 | All I can say is ... MAPI! | IOSG::TALLETT | www-iosg.reo.dec.com/Tallett.html | Wed Aug 28 1996 13:26 | 21 |
2225.11 | some 'points' | IOSG::TYLDESLEY | Wed Aug 28 1996 14:02 | 33 | |
2225.12 | OGRI::63536::BELL | Martin Bell @BBP (M&U PSC) | Wed Aug 28 1996 14:43 | 27 | |
2225.13 | IOSG::BILSBOROUGH | SWBFS | Wed Aug 28 1996 17:46 | 9 | |
2225.14 | IOSG::LOCKWOOD | Do you like our owl? | Wed Aug 28 1996 18:17 | 5 | |
2225.15 | SNOFS1::JOYCEJENNY | Still crazy after all these years | Thu Aug 29 1996 00:29 | 9 | |
2225.16 | OGRI::63536::BELL | Martin Bell @BBP (M&U PSC) | Thu Aug 29 1996 08:57 | 28 | |
2225.17 | Another "can do now" | IOSG::TALLETT | www-iosg.reo.dec.com/Tallett.html | Thu Aug 29 1996 09:09 | 28 |
2225.18 | "We're not in Kansas anymore" | IOSG::HOLTD | Dave Holt | Thu Aug 29 1996 12:13 | 34 |
2225.19 | another pc? | GIDDAY::BACOT | Mon Sep 02 1996 00:55 | 19 | |
2225.20 | 60916::GADSBY | Life is a Cabernet | Wed Sep 04 1996 01:54 | 9 | |
2225.21 | GIDDAY::JOYCE | Andy Joyce - Digital CSC Sydney | Wed Sep 04 1996 03:29 | 29 | |
2225.22 | 60916::GADSBY | Life is a Cabernet | Wed Sep 04 1996 10:00 | 5 | |
2225.23 | Polish the resume | NEWVAX::MZARUDZKI | preparation can mean survival | Wed Sep 04 1996 12:31 | 14 |
2225.24 | RIP - no way! | ALFSS2::alf_dial6_port2.alf.dec.com::maximous_s | Working From Home | Wed Sep 04 1996 13:03 | 29 |
2225.25 | ACISS2::LENNIG | Dave (N8JCX), MIG, @CYO | Wed Sep 04 1996 13:06 | 19 | |
2225.26 | CCS encouragement ? Don't make me laught. | UTRTSC::SCHOLLAERT | Ajax: World Champions 1995 | Wed Sep 04 1996 13:42 | 19 |
2225.27 | Perception is the only thing | IOSG::BURTON | IOSG - SEI CMM level 3 | Wed Sep 04 1996 13:49 | 16 |
2225.28 | ALL-IN-1 clusters are expensive | UTRTSC::SCHOLLAERT | Ajax: World Champions 1995 | Thu Sep 12 1996 08:31 | 12 |
2225.29 | Exchange getting stronger than ever | NQOS01::voyager.lex.dec.com::wav14.pko.dec.com::isler | Wed Feb 19 1997 21:33 | 45 | |
And a few months later ... I am in technical support, and once in a blue moon I get a customer who asks "ALL-IN-1/TeamLinks or Exchange?" Most have already decided "Exhange or bust!". Why should any IS manager invest on a product that Digital's upper management is not betting their business on any longer? Last week, we - the US Technical Support Organization - have received orders from above to migrate to Exchange. All the sales reps have already received their orders, and most started moving over. As much as Signe in her previous reply wants to be positive about the quality of our products - which I completely agree on -, there is no way, to any more convince customers not to go to Exchange. Besides folks venting out in this conference, I do not see anywhere else in Digital a fair comparison of ALL-IN-1 and Exchange. Nobody makes that big of a deal of Exchange's incapabilities, that it cannot justify selling AS 4100's until next December, and that it just is not Enterprise quality. It simply is not enough to talk to my customers about the solid capabilities of ALL-IN-1/TeamLinks vs a junior mail system which can support 500 users per server now, instead of the 200 that its PC based predecessors did. Digital did such a grand job internally as well externally marketing Exchange, that nobody (except the few readers of this conference) anymore believes in the future of ALL-IN-1/TeamLinks. How come we never succeded to market our own software as well or received any public endorsements from senior Digital VPs, that's another discussion. I am helping out the local SI organization next week. They and Microsoft invited ALL the local installed base ALL-IN-1 customers to attend a 1/2 day Exchange symposium. Agenda includes Digital's internal experience with the migration, and demo tools such Exchange-to-1 to prove once more: Why bother with TeamLinks/MailWorks or ALL-IN-1! Messaging Practices consultants are full force recommending Exchange, and pretty much see TeamLinks and ALL-IN-1 as dead. So much for the soap box. But I would appreciate an update on the future of Office Server and TeamLinks, and whether we will actively market it. Also, My question is, who from Digital is funding the engineering efforts for Office Server and TeamLinks? And realistically, for how long will they fund it? Yasemin |