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| 1995.1 | | SMURF::WALLACE | Life's a beach, then you dive! | Tue Sep 27 1994 11:03 | 4 |
| I haven't heard about tektites in quite a long time. Last I heard,
there were still opposing theories that they were either cast out by
volcanoes, or survived the fiery fall through the atmosphere and came
from outer space. How out of tune am I?
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| 1995.2 | | MAGEE::ZANELLA | Stoked phrase goes here | Tue Sep 27 1994 12:23 | 10 |
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I don't think your totally out of tune! ;-) Based on my readings, they
originated in outer space. But I have heard of the opposing theory
that states they are volcanic in origin. Who knows?!?!
The only tektite I was familiar with, was Moldavite [sp?]...this
stone is "weathered", but it doesn't seem to have the same properties.
IE: bottle green texture.
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| 1995.3 | "Mutant Message" | STAR::YURYAN | | Tue Sep 27 1994 12:40 | 8 |
| You might read the book "Mutant Message" by Marlo Morgan. It
is not a how-to book, but a good (true) story of a woman who
stayed with an Aboriginal tribe a few years ago. Healing
without Western means happens while she is out on a 'walkabout'
with them.
She may also be able to answer your specific questions.
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| 1995.4 | Oh dear. | TOOK::NICOLAZZO | A shocking lack of Gov. regulation | Tue Sep 27 1994 16:02 | 13 |
| re: .0
I can't say I feel real good about this...
>Over the weekend, I acquired a Tektite stone that was an artifact
>from an Aboriginal "Shaman" burial site in Australia. I was
>told that the Shaman used it for healing practices.
I don't know how you acquired this, but, if the story is true,
it sounds like someone did a little grave robbing.
Robert.
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| 1995.5 | | MAGEE::ZANELLA | Stoked phrase goes here | Tue Sep 27 1994 17:22 | 22 |
| RE: 04
Yes, I asked where this person had acquired the stones, and his
reply was that he received them from the "locals" directly.
Funny, but I didn't get the feeling of "grave robbing"...I felt
that the stones were removed in a sacred gesture. IE: Locals
were aware of the "importance" [?], and somehow made peace with
the Shamen who used these stones...IMHO
I would NOT want to contribute to something sacrilegious to
the Aboriginal people, and hope that it was nothing like that.
But even if it was reckless "grave robbing", I have given it only
light/love/respect, and (hopefully) will ease any sacrilegious
events/energy...
I did have some interesting "feelings", but they (seemed)
non-related to being "disturbed" from their final resting place...
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| 1995.6 | Thanks! | MAYES::ZANELLA | Stoked phrase goes here | Wed Sep 28 1994 09:44 | 14 |
| RE: .03
>>You might read the book "Mutant Message" by Marlo Morgan. It
is not a how-to book, but a good (true) story of a woman who
stayed with an Aboriginal tribe a few years ago. Healing
without Western means happens while she is out on a 'walkabout'
with them.
I just called my book shop, and they have "Mutant Message"!
I'll be picking it up today....;-)
Thanks for the pointer!
Candus
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| 1995.7 | Clarification to base note | MAYES::ZANELLA | Stoked phrase goes here | Wed Sep 28 1994 10:01 | 20 |
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I would like to expand my explaination on how I acquired this
particular stone. I was wandering around the place, and there
was a grouping of stones, about 10 or 12, and I was automatically
drawn to a certain one. (can you say magnet?) I carried this
stone with me for the remaining time I was there. While I was
*paying* for it, is when the chap explained the story. By this
time, there was no way I was going to let this stone "get away",
because of the energy I was receiving.
Needless to say, I was a bit taken back by the story, but it
only seemed to highlight my 'need' [?] for it....
I just wanted to point out, that there was no big sign that said
"Aborigianal Artifacts"; I had no idea, but was certainly
drawn to it, anyway.
FWIW
Candus
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| 1995.8 | I'll drop it now. A pet peeve really.... | TOOK::NICOLAZZO | A shocking lack of Gov. regulation | Wed Sep 28 1994 13:55 | 9 |
| I hope your right about it. But I would like to point out that
most grave robbing, pillaging of archaeological sites, etc, are
performed by "locals". I have a hard time believing that the
"locals" who removed these grave goods and sold them had anything
more sacred in mind than making a quick buck.
I really hope your right, but I doubt it.
Robert.
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| 1995.9 | To dig, or not to dig! | MAYES::ZANELLA | Stoked phrase goes here | Wed Sep 28 1994 14:24 | 24 |
| RE: 08
>> I hope your right about it. But I would like to point out that
>> most grave robbing, pillaging of archaeological sites, etc, are
>> performed by "locals". I have a hard time believing that the
>> "locals" who removed these grave goods and sold them had anything
>> more sacred in mind than making a quick buck.
> I really hope your right, but I doubt it.
Hi Robert,
I understand your point. I *really* hope it wasn't for the money.
It has also made me more sensitive in supporting site digs.
This is difficult for me, because I always wanted to be a
Paleontologist/Archaeologist, and I never thought about the
aspect of making money, more like an understanding of natural
history and the various cultures.
Brings an interesting point to light: Should artifacts be
boycotted? Any thoughts on this???
Candus
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| 1995.10 | | WRKSYS::MACKAY_E | | Thu Sep 29 1994 15:20 | 14 |
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I think artifacts of digs should remain in the local
museums since the finds belong to the locals, not the
just individuals but the entire nation or even race.
The finds are part of their history whether they realize
or not. If we don't create a market for the artifacts,
we won't have to worry about looting.
I never really like the idea of keeping other people's
things, especially personal items, without their consent,
whether I pay $ for it or not.
Eva
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| 1995.11 | | ZEKE::STARBRIGHT | Serenity | Fri Sep 30 1994 09:16 | 6 |
| But on the other hand ... what if you had owned something in a past
life and the universe arranged for it to be yours again in this life, I
think that would be rather wonderful.
My 2 cents,
Serenity
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| 1995.12 | I wanna Walkabout! | MAYES::ZANELLA | Stoked phrase goes here | Fri Sep 30 1994 09:33 | 19 |
| Re: last couple
Considering how things worked out, and the sensations experienced,
I would say it sure seems like a reunion of sorts!!! ;-)))
In general, I will think twice about supporting sales of
'personal items', unless, as commented, I have the prior
owners consent...
I think aquiring this stone was a special event...
FWIW: I am midway through "Mutant Message" (From Down Under)
and it's fantastic! Some things are revelations, some are just
my personal beliefs, reiterated. I would *highly* suggest
this reading.
Thank U, STAR::YURYAN !!!!!!!
Candus
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| 1995.13 | the book | STAR::YURYAN | | Fri Sep 30 1994 12:37 | 6 |
| I'm glad you like the book. I heard the author speak about 2
weeks ago at Interface in Boston. It was a very good talk as she
revealed more of the details around certain things like the
healing of the man's leg. I believe there is another book in
the making by the same author, but there were no dates given
as to when it would be available.
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| 1995.14 | | WRKSYS::MACKAY_E | | Fri Sep 30 1994 14:29 | 13 |
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re .11
>But on the other hand ... what if you had owned something in a past
>life and the universe arranged for it to be yours again in this
>life, I think that would be rather wonderful.
Yes, it is, if I know for sure that it was mine.
I would just hate it if some spirit got really upset because I
have the same taste in jewelry as she/he had ;-);-)
Eva
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| 1995.15 | | TNPUBS::PAINTER | Planet Crayon | Fri Sep 30 1994 14:41 | 23 |
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I agree with Serenity in .11, and believe that there are two different
situations going on here.
There are site robbers, if you will, who are only interested in the
money aspect, and the plunderers who are the lowest of the low, in my
opinion.
But there are also situations where certain objects are meant to be
actively used by certain people for their own spiritual development,
and, in turn, for the growth and benefit of humanity. Such things
would be far better off in the hands of the right people, than in a
museum. It just may be that *in this case*, the piece is exactly
where it should be, and in the hands of exactly the right person.
Given the intent of the person in this case, while I agree it's
important to point out what has been pointed out about artifacts in
general, I also think that it is important to not judge to harshly
and compare - even indirectly - to the kinds of people I mentioned
above. For there may be greater reasons involving this piece that
we just cannot know at this time.
Cindy
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