| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name
 | Date | Lines | 
|---|
| 1908.1 | a defintie maybe here | DELNI::JIMC | California bound | Fri Dec 17 1993 15:52 | 11 | 
|  | There is always hope Frances.  This seems to have been a fairly accurate
reading thus far.  I would say, though, that free will stilll exists and
hope is only an expression of desired possibilities, not certainties.
Take care of you.
I'm sorry to hear things are not going well for you and hope thay get better 
soon.
hugs
80)
 | 
| 1908.2 |  | TNPUBS::PAINTER | Planet Crayon | Sat Dec 18 1993 12:53 | 23 | 
|  |     
    Echoing what Jim wrote, and also a reading recommendation immediately
    came to mind to give to you:
    
    	"A Woman's Worth", by Marianne Williamson
    
    It's not related to tarot at all, but is a fantastic book on everything
    including relationships.  It should be on the shelf at any bookstore so
    you can flip through it to decide.
    
    Regarding the tarot reading, there may indeed be someone who comes
    along very soon that fits many (but not all) of the items that your
    tarot reading mentioned.  Life can be really strange, and very good,
    at that!  For example, recently I actually met someone that was born 
    on *the same day and year* as my ex-husband!  Looks like him too.  
    Though fortunately he's infinitely more wonderful.  (;^)  So you just
    never know.
    
    Take care of yourself, and treat yourself well, especially now.  I've
    been there too.
    
    Cindy
    
 | 
| 1908.3 | my .02 -- warning got longer winded than planned 8-) | DECWET::TPFRAME |  | Tue Dec 21 1993 01:31 | 30 | 
|  |     Hi..
    
    I would suggest that (as previously said by others) that there
    are no sure things.  Free will, etc. have a major play
    in life.
    
    Sometimes I find that 'psychic' or metaphysical readings
    can color a person's actions.  Maybe (it's a stretch), but try this
    scenario on.. knowing what you thought was 'truth' stated by the 
    interpretation of the Tarot may have influenced your expectations 
    and actions in your relationship with your mate?
    
    The reading does seem to have validity for you, but to repeat,
    there are many forces and changes occuring all the time, some
    within your personal sphere, and some outside your ability
    to influence and control.
    
    If you can, listen to your 'felt sense' or gut or intuition,
    soul, whatever you want to call it, and act on that, not on
    anyone's (including myself ;-)) say so, be it from a 'divine'
    source, etc.. if it is channeled through any human interpreter,
    it is 'flawed'.. so do what feels right.  Follow your own
    path and heart..
    
    			sorry - didn't mean to soapbox.. ;-)
    
    		Peace!
    
    		Zoe
                                     
 | 
| 1908.4 |  | HOO78C::ANDERSON | Where did all the snow go? | Tue Dec 21 1993 02:39 | 4 | 
|  |     There is always the slight (hardly worth mentioning really) possibility
    that tarot readings are totally worthless.
    Jamie.
 | 
| 1908.5 | taking an active role in a vision ... | DWOVAX::STARK | Fa la la la la | Tue Dec 21 1993 10:30 | 13 | 
|  |     A reading is whatever you make of it, in my opinion.  Just like
    any other advice.  Even bad advice can help you see what you're
    doing wrong, if you apply _your_own_resources_ to the interpretation
    as well.  Think of it as 'seeds' of the future perhaps, rather than 
    predicting the future.  Make it mean something else.  Use your own
    strength to mold it and tailor it.
    
    And always get a second opinion from a witch doctor if one is 
    available.  ;*)   Sorry, couldn't resist ...
    
    						kind regards,
    
    						todd
 | 
| 1908.6 | Strength? | MR4DEC::FDELANO |  | Tue Dec 21 1993 11:26 | 3 | 
|  |     RE: .5 What do you mean by strength? 
    
    Frances
 | 
| 1908.7 | further thoughts | DWOVAX::STARK | Fa la la la la | Tue Dec 21 1993 14:51 | 38 | 
|  |     re: .6,
    
    By strength, I meant the inner quality needed to make the difficult 
    transition from being _receptive_to_discovery_ (which is the frame of
    mind a person is generally in when they are accepting a reading); to being 
    active in seizing the day and reinterpreting the reading, adding 
    more of their personal understanding.   Giving themselves some
    credit for the ability to visuallize and mold their future.
    
    By making this kind of a shift, we can often
    see nuances in a situation that were not obvious before.  That's
    part of what a really successful reading or counseling session will
    do, (I think), in addition to providing information, or seeming
    to provide information, it will change the way someone views the
    conditions of their life, opening up new possibilities.   Rather
    than just closing off possibilities.  
    
    What I'm calling 'strength,' is probably similar to what
    others have called 'free will,' but I guess I put a little more 
    macho :-) slant on the elusive quality.  It's kind of like
    self-determination in my mind, rather than simple choice.  
    
    I guess you can probably also tell that my own preference
    is to value more highly someone's own reading of their
    situation, rather than that of a professional psychic,
    especially when they start to become dependent on the 
    readings or view them as somehow limiting their options.
    No matter how accurate or uncanny predictions may have seemed, we
    virtually always have the power to influence our outcomes.
    
    Sometimes we don't *want* to exercise that power, for whatever
    reason, but that's another matter.
    
    					joyous holiday,
    
    						kind regards,
    
    						todd
 | 
| 1908.8 | Attitude adjustment! | MR4DEC::FDELANO |  | Tue Dec 21 1993 15:11 | 5 | 
|  |     Thanks Todd.  In a nutshell - Attitude is more powerfull than fact. I
    do believe that this situation will turn in my favor despite all that
    has happened.
    
    Frances
 | 
| 1908.9 | jus' the fax, ma'am. | DWOVAX::STARK | Fa la la la la | Tue Dec 21 1993 17:08 | 7 | 
|  | |    Thanks Todd.  In a nutshell - Attitude is more powerfull than fact. I
|    do believe that this situation will turn in my favor despite all that
|    has happened.
    
    Or maybe, "attitude *is* a fact !"  :-D
    
    							todd
 | 
| 1908.10 | Interpetation | USCTR1::GCOOK |  | Thu Jun 09 1994 14:23 | 25 | 
|  |     Hi Frances,
    I think the Tarot helps put into perspective the multitude of
    influences going on within (without) our lives at any particular
    moment, usually concering one question. It is very easy for us to lose
    our way, amidst confusing emotions, our own as well as our Significant
    Other's. 
    I think the Tarot lays out for us the energy levels in various aspects
    of our lives:
    Current conditions
    Past 
    Recent Past
    Future Trends
    Specific Future
    and influence of our own emotions, and those of our close relations.
    Often the Seeker wants to fit a "Square" reading into their preferred
    "round" hopes. Sometimes those hopes are limited to what we know. We
    always have the option of how to interpet the reading. 
    
    For example (very simplistic, I know), the seeker wants to know if they
    will succeed in purchasing a 1975 Dodge. The cards come back and imply
    that "No, there's no Dodge in your future". Well, all that might mean
    is that you'll end up with a Mercedes Benz 500 SL. Life's
    possibilities are unlimited.
    
    GC
 |