Conference hydra::dejavu

  Marcos, are these ideas in any way similar or related to those of
  Rupert Sheldrake (whose work is described in note 245.9), who suggests
  that reality is constantly inventing and defining itself?

  Thanks Marcos. I certainly intend to get hold of this book. Now if I
  could locate some spare time to fill with it ...

  But seriously, my little girls take up most of my spare time, and I
  have no regrets about that!

  Fascinating! Thanks for entering that. It reminds me of some notions
  I've seen in Islamic literature ... Mohammed's "night journey", where,
  one night, he was awakened from his bed, met with God, had numerous
  countless conversations with God and angels, traveled for thousands of
  years, etc etc, and returned to his bed still warm and an overturned
  pitcher still pouring water ... and numerous sufi stories telling of a
  person who experiences years of adventures, then "awakens" to find
  himself back in his kitchen/bedroom/parlor, with only a moment having
  passed ... sort of makes one wonder: what if I were, right now, to
  reawaken to some point in my life, say, 15 years ago? Everything which
  had happened in the interim would seem like a dream. What would I do
  differently? Would I have married the same person, taken the same job,
  etc.

    The flip side of this time compression is found in many stories of
    mortals making journeys into the realms of fairy-folk.  They return
    after a single night, or some other short period, and find that years
    or centuries have passed in their absence.  Often, the time of the
    mortal world soon catches up with them and they crumble into dust or
    are stricken with old age soon after returning.
    
    Earl Wajenberg

    
    
    Yea but you guys are proceeding on the assumption that time is some
    sort of linear road that exists as a solid object that can be traversed
    back and forth.. the road unchanging.
    
    I don't think thats the way it is.  I think we actually create reality
    so that if you went back 15 years... *at that moment* reality would
    change... your life would be different... everything would be
    different.
    
    So time would really reflect an infinite collection of possibilities and
    you could move back and forth between them by the choices you make.
    
    mary

    I've read Bentov's wonderful book--have a copy at work. I used it years
    ago (1978) as part of my research into building a Workshop
    (Experiencing Your Experience a.k.a. "e.y.e."), in which I developed a
    number of experiences which illustrated some of the speculations found
    in this work. (Eg. "Our bodies mirror the universe, down to the working
    of each cell.") I have been particularly fascinated with the
    Holographic metaphors for the structure of the universe, and developed
    some experiences which give some understanding of this point of view.
    Other sources I recommend are: George Leonard's "Silent Pulse", Nick
    Herbert's "Quantum Reality", and F. David Peat's, "Synchronicity: the
    Bridge Between Mind and Matter".
    
    Bentov's work is fun and contains enough material for a life-time of
    research and speculation. And, as you suggest, many reputable
    scientists vouch for portions of his work.
    
    Richard B 

  
  Marcos/Richard/anyone,
  
  Could you please post the ISBN code of "Stalking the Wild Pendulum" ?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Frank

    STALKING THE WILD PENDULUM: ISBN 0-553-12396-3
    A Bantum Book/ Published by arrangement with E.P. Dutton/ March 1979
    
    Richard B

    Bentov would have written more and better books, but . . . . .
    his clock stopped soon after "Stalking" came out.
    
    He died along with many others in the first of a series of DC-10
    crashes, when the engine mounting bolts were failing.
    
    Just after takeoff from O'Hare in Chicago, an engine fell off, his plane
    turned over and crashed.  Some say it was caused by forces that did not
    want Bentov to write more.     

    Hi,
    
    Bear in mind that people LOVE conspiracies.  Maybe the government
    wanted him dead, and was willing to kill the other people on board to
    do it, and maybe it's just irrisistable to think he was onto some wild
    and wonderful truth that "they" don't want us to know about--everything 
    would be wonderful if only the bad guys would stop us from having what is 
    rightfully ours.  Possible, but not probable.
    
    Mike

    And maybe he just got onto another DC10 with bad engine bolts -- they
    were prevalent at that time, no?
    
    Mary

    Re: -1--Mary,
    
    Most likely.
    
    Mike