Conference hydra::dejavu

    re: .0 (Bob)
    
          There are a couple of other notes in this conference related
    to this...I don't know which ones and don't have the time to 
    look for you...you may wish to seek them out and see if they
    help.
    
    Frederick
    

    I didn't have time to read through them to see if
    they applied, but 
    
    Topic 42.* is "What does my cat see ?"
    
    	and
    
    Topic 564.* is "Cat realities"
    
    						todd

    
    
    re .0
    
                  I find cats (in general) to  be unsettling- they can
    behave in such a bizzar manner. I had a cat once that did a similar
    thing. What I discovered was that Biscuit was tracing a small draft
    to its source; hence the ranging, stalking, pounceing. 
    
                                   Later,
                                    Mark
    
    

>	What I discovered was that Biscuit was tracing a small draft
>    to its source; hence the ranging, stalking, pounceing. 
    
    	What was its source ?
    
    					todd

    re .4
    
    
                 There was a small pencil-point-sized gap in the corner joint
     of the sheet rock. The draft was "active" only when certain windows or 
    doors were open (pressure diferentials).
    
    
                                    Later,
                                     Mark
    
    
    

    
    	My cats do this too, *but* we know what it is - mice.
    	If we listen closely we can hear them scurrying between
    	the walls at times. They will perk up, stare at a corner
    	of the ceiling, and climb on anything to get as close to
    	the point they've picked as possible. Then they'll sit there
    	and stare at the ceiling, reaching a paw up from time to 
    	time as if to try to touch something....
    
    	Of course, there was the time we heard a doorknob rattle
    	when there was definitely no one there (and no explanation),
    	the cats stood up and stared at the window in the door 
    	for several minutes, their fur standing up. It was really
    	spooky... 
    
    	

Hi,

I'm not sure that this is anything "odd" as in the sense of spirits, 
things not seen etc., but it seems odd behavior for a cat, my cat in particular.

We (me, my two cats and new husband) just moved to a new place in Jan. 
since we've been there, my female cat will sit for hours and stare at 
herself in the mirror, if you pick her up and move her she goes right 
back.  If you watch her, she's not looking at the room in the mirror, 
she's really staring at herself, if undisturbed she will do this for 
great lengths of time.   Her name is Beauty (and she is), so at first 
we thought this was cute...now it seems she there all the time!

My tom is completely uninterested.

Any ideas??

Thanks,
Pat

    
    Hi,
      I've just finished reading a book called "Fluke" by James Herbert.
    The book was about a man who was reincarnated (sp?) as a dog, and 
    couldnt understand why he had the senses of a man and a memory of 
    a man but was now in the body of a dog....Perhaps your cat never 
    used to be a cat and is trying to sus its new body out...???
    just an idea...
    
    Regards Sam
    

    Regarding -.7.  We had a cat that also stared into the mirror at itself
    and it also occurred after we moved into a new house. I have no idea
    why, though.

    re: .8,
    Hey, Sam !  I didn't notice you were 'in here' before.
    Good to hear from you !
    						todd

    
    I was watching the cat who lives with me go through his stretching 
    routine a few months ago and decided that he was foremost in the 
    field of 'kitty yoga'. 
    
    Cindy

    Yes, in the realm of the physical, cats are supreme.  They are
    an incredible example of efficiency and grace in every movement.
    I learned a lot of my own stretching routine from watching these
    masters do it.
    						todd

    
    I believe that there are animals who see things that we cannot see.
    Many animals are guardians... cats especially... dogs too.
    
    mary

    guardians of what?
    

    the humans they live with usually

    Re .last_few:
    
    It's been my experience that I've been my cats' guardian.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

    
    But maybe it's been your cat's experience that he's been your guardian.
    :-)
    

RE: last few


	Please give examples of what you mean when you say cats 
	act as guardians, in what way.....guardians of what......
	
	2 of my best friends are my cats.


	Thanks,
	Pat    

    I'll explain it to you as my Grandmother explained it to me.
    
    
    In that space beyond the world of men is a place where life stuff
    exists.  And there exists all of the bits and pieces of failed life
    both human and animal and other...  species that never made it through
    the evolutionary process.. bits of beings too primitive to evolve
    unto themselves or too stubborn to disappaite.  And when the walls
    between the worlds grows thin, they sometimes stalk the world of
    man.
    
    Cats see in a different way than we do... they see forms of light
    and matter than we cannot... and they are hunters... physical hunters
    of material game and psychic hunters of the 'tooth and claws of left
    over life stuff' that sometimes drifts through the world of humans.
    
    Cats never domesticated really.  They came to guard us.. as only they
    can.
    
    At least... thats what my Grandmother told me. :-)
    
    mary

    Thanks Mary,
    
    	I absolutely agree, but I was just enjoying your Grandmothers
    	account when it ended ;-(. 
    
    
    Marilyn

    
    Re .19, it gave me goose bumps to read that (I'm a Stephen King fan
    and I like goose bumps %^)).
    
    Neal

    
    
>    In that space beyond the world of men is a place where life stuff
>    exists.  And there exists all of the bits and pieces of failed life
>    both human and animal and other...  species that never made it through
>    the evolutionary process.. bits of beings too primitive to evolve
>    unto themselves or too stubborn to disappaite.  
    
    	And splendid, delicate flowers too fragile to survive in the
    	harsh environment of the physical world. And songs that have
    	never been composed, poetry that has never been written. Things
    	that have yet to manifest in the physical world, but one day 
    	will (e.g., cure for AIDS). All of these, and much more, either
    	inhabit or transit through this "space".
    
    Neal

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>                        -< It's not all "bad" stuff... >-

Actually none of it is "bad".  I just depends on how you look at it.

		Dave

    yep...
    
       ... none of it is "bad" stuff... it's just stuff.. life stuff...
       existence stuff..
    
    There too ... slightly further out.. at the end of the space beyond 
    the world of man, is the beginnings of the edge of reality.  This is 
    the place where the fractals swarm.. forming the patterns of the material 
    world..
    
    	.... after that... the Great Void.. where The Watcher lives. 
    
    mary