Conference hydra::dejavu

    
    
                Neal,
                     I wonder if maybe we (or they) are not just a 
    variation on a basic theme which works very well.
    
                           Later,
                           Mark
    
    

    Or if the replies are false (either consciously or unconsciously
    created) mabe its just a variation of "speciesism" (projections of our
    own image)
    
    Mary

    It seems that man (not woman) has created God in his own image, why not
    ET's as well?  I think it's (as Neal indicated) an imprint in our
    (or the collective) unconscious.  It's also interesting that all the
    descriptions/images I have seen have all been androgynous.  

    Terry

    Not to stop any conversation along these lines, as extraterrestrials is
    certainly IMHO a valid topic for DEJAVU, but I would like to point out
    that a topic on aliens and UFOS can be found on node OCTAVE::UFOS. it's
    chock full of interesting stuff as I know several DEJAVUers can attest
    to. 
    
    I don't no how to set up the KP7 bit,so you'll just have to do it the
    hard way and do an ADD ENTRY OCTAVE::UFOS.
    
    Phil

    
    I can think of three reasons why they might look "like us":
    
    1) they don't really look like us but deliberately manifest
    themselves to us in shapes we can relate to
    
    2) there is a common genetic origin for the primate species
    somewhere out there in the galaxy, or we are their evolutionary
    kin
    
    3) it is a pattern that appears by mere chance, but is a prerequisite
    for the development of (what I will call) "achievement-oriented"
    intelligence, this being the ability to apply the intellect toward
    manipulating one's environment (e.g. building spaceships)
    

    re .4
    
    How to set up an automatic select..
    
    with .4 selected enter
    
    		set note/conference=octave::ufos
    
    
    You can do it now.  Nobody else can do it to .4.
    
    thanks
    dwp

    
    re: .3 (Terry)
    
    That is interesting about androgyny....
    
    Jung's archetype of the Self is hermaphroditic, which may or may not
    be the same as androgynous......
    
    Also the saucer (the circle) is symbolic of the Self.
    
    Just exactly why someone would experience such a thing is unknown to
    me.  Why should an archetype so strongly impress itself upon a person's
    consciousness?
    
    guy

re: .7 (Guy)

    > Why should an archetype so strongly impress itself upon a person's
    > consciousness?
    
    Good question.  I guess that's what we spend a good part of our lives 
    trying to figure out...

    Terry

    OK I did the KP& bit for .4. I hope it works. If this keeps up I'll
    know all the tricks. I'll do it for this note also. So hit KP& here to
    get UFOS
    
    Phil

    I reject the thought that symmetrical eye and limb positions on a
    species is anything more than an evolutionary pattern, denoting any
    kind of superiority.  Symmetry is only a response to the 3-dimensional
    environment that needs to be seen by visual perspective and moved
    across in a physical manner.  Symmetry might actually be quite
    primitive, in the larger context.  
    
    When and if we come into contact with other intelligences, I doubt very
    much if our sense organs will be able to comprehend them.  Heck, we
    might have missed them already...was that really a gum wrapper on the
    side of the road?  The scale of them to us, that's another problem.  We
    expect them to be a certain height, no more, no less.  We certainly do
    expect a lot!  It might take milleniums for the "right" aliens to finally
    show up!   
    
    Julie

    AND on a completely different note, 
    there is a puported vision of the Catholic Mother of God
    talking about spaceships from Hell coming to earth, 
    but I forget where I saw it.