Conference hydra::dejavu

Wow Jamie, that's quite a powerful dream....

As you may have read in this notesfile, *every* request for dream interpretation
gets the reply that *you* are the only one who can interpret correctly.

So, having said that ;-), we can only try and give you some hints about
how/where to look for the specific meaning it has for you. Then there are two
that hit me when I read your dream. One is: the Christians. What does this mean
for you? Do they really represent Christians/the Christian religion? Or does it
have other associations? What were your first thoughts about that when you woke
up?

The second is: you trying to run, but actually being caught by "them". First "on
the road", and then "in the house". "The house" is quite often related to "the
mind" or the "spiritual body". If you have the same association, then it could
mean that "they" get you (you are "touched" by them) both "outside" and
"inside".

About "being shot": to me, it doesn't need to be agressive. I can't explain
this; maybe others can give this a try.

Hope this helps,

Arie

Thanks Arie.
    
    I'm not a Christian, nor am I particularly religious. The Christian
    bit is really puzzling. I agree the shooting may not be aggressive.
    No pain was involved - just a feeling of shock, light headedness
    then nothing. Still, at least it settles on old wives tale for me
    - the one that claims that if you die in your sleep you die in reality!
    
    The house only featured in the second repetition of the dream. Perhaps
    you're right - something is encroaching on me physically and now
    also mentally and I can't get away from it ???    

    Does anyone have any other suggestions ? I realise that it's difficult
    to interpret a dream of someone elses since you don't know what
    the dreamer thinks, worries and daydreams about, but something may
    just hit a chord with me ...
        
    				Jamie.

   Sometimes dreams like to provide puns.  Are you "losing your head" over
   something, is anything "blowing your mind"?  Like Arie, you are the key
   to understanding the dream.  Spend a few minutes dialoging with the more
   powerful symbols.  Ask the Christians why they are there.  Then take on
   the role of the Cristians and answer the question.  Continue this for
   a few minutes and you may unlock the meaning.  

   Terry

    
    It could be something very logically seen before. There's lots of news
    stories from the middle east of the Christian part of Lebanon and the 
    fighting going on. Everyone knows the feeling of being chased. Lots
    of news scenes of people getting shot. Recently I saw a documentry on 
    China's revolution and they had films of street execution through the
    head and I wondered how they must have felt just before it happened.
    
    I think it's just the way the mind twists and deals with the 16 hours
    of input received during our waking hours.
    
    Paul
    

RE: .-1 (Paul)

    > I think it's just the way the mind twists and deals with the 16 hours
    > of input received during our waking hours.
    
    I have to argue this from personal experience.  I have been recording
    and researching my own dreams for three years now and 90% of them are
    clearly messages, advice and observations on what is happening in my
    waking life.  Certainly, current events (personal, local and global)
    show up as symbols but I can almost always see they are merely being
    used in the language of my subconscious to communicate important
    material.  I have also found that when I act upon and apply what I've
    found, I get feedback (positive and negative) on how I approached the
    problem.  Maybe it's just conditioning the mind to be useful during the
    dream time, but for me, it works.  Very rarely do I get dreams that
    turn out to be "noise".  Sometimes, but very rarely.  In Jamie's case,
    since the dream has repeated itself over time, I doubt that it is just
    a replay of conscious experience.  If "de-coded" and the knowledge gained
    is applied, recurring dreams will go away.

    Terry

    re: -.1
     
    All I was saying is just don't look for some hidden meaning a dream may
    have when it could be anything we could have routinely experienced and
    the neurons just happen to hiccup to pull out something unexpected and
    it made such an impression on the subconscience that the dream made an
    impression on our mind. Maybe that's why they may be so vivid and
    reoccuring.
    
    Yes, dreams could be hidding some repressive thoughts but they also
    could something random seen in a different way than we usually do. If 
    I can explain a dream as a compilation of bits and pieces of random
    thoughts, then I just take it for that.
    
    -P

re: .6 (Paul)
    
    > Yes, dreams could be hidding some repressive thoughts but they also
    > could something random seen in a different way than we usually do. If 
    > I can explain a dream as a compilation of bits and pieces of random
    > thoughts, then I just take it for that.
    
    Yea maybe, but if one is interested in working with their dreams this
    should be the last conclusion, not the the first.  Only after all other
    possibilities are exhausted should this be considered.

    Terry

    
    Personally I believe that, yes, some things are picked up throughout 
    the day.  But you have to ask - why those particular events.  I believe
    it is because the mind recognized those events as useful symbols with
    which to express archetypal energy more clearly and emotionally. 
    
    How do you feel about Christianity?
    
    My gut feeling is that you feel threatened by Christianity.  In the
    second dream you realized that you had built a "model of reality" for
    yourself (i.e. the house) and you ran to it for security.  What you 
    thought would hold off the onslaught of ideas detrimental to your view
    of reality did not work and "your mind was blown."
    
    Of course, I could be full of horse poo-poo, as usual.
    
    @^%
    
    Guy 

    I started reading this note because I have never really sat down and
    thought about dreams at the level that some of the previous noters have
    obviously done. I would be interested if the person who actually
    records 90% of their dreams would go into the conclusions they have
    arrived with. (There is probably a seperate note for this anyway)
    If I had to give an explanation for the second dream I would have said
    that the guy had watched "DIE HARD" too many times on video the night
    before !!!
    						GEORGE.
    

    re: .9 (George)

    Mostly, I have come to the conclusion that, for me, I can't ignore my
    dreams or write them off as cerebreal core dumps.  In my case, there 
    isn't persistence or insistance on the part of my sub-conscious to use
    them, but when I work actively with them (by applying what I learn to 
    every-day, waking life), my sub-conscious (and other deeper parts of 
    the whole that I am) like to cooperate.  If I stop for a period of time,
    they quietly fade into the background until I am ready to work again.

    I have also found that I can't assume that a particular symbol or theme
    means the same thing from dream to dream.  I have to look at it within
    the context of that partucular dream or series of dreams (sometimes a
    series of dreams work together to convey a particular message).  I've
    come to learn that my dreams don't give me specific answers to specific
    questions, like yes you should do that or no you shouldn't do that. 
    Rather, they evaluate situations, feelings and actions and tend to 'wake
    me up' to how I really feel about something and show me the possible
    consequences of my current direction.  

    A lot of my dreams tend to work on deep issues, things that I have long 
    forgotten that need to be confronted.  These are the tough ones to apply.   
    And I've found I need more that the dream and it's knowledge to work 
    through it.  These types of dreams are somewhat frequent, sometimes 
    communicating in a subtle way and sometimes the knock me on the head with
    inredible intensity through the use of symbols and vividness.  On rare
    occasions, I can become conscious in my dreams (knowing it's a dream,
    sometimes referred to as lucid dreaming) and find I can make conscious
    decision that affect the progress of the dream.  I'm not too adept at it 
    yet, but have managed to work through a thing or two using this approach.

    If you are considering working with dreams, I would fisrt recommend that
    you begin recording them as soon as you wake up.  At first, it isn't easy
    and you may not recall much.  But if you keep it up your sub-conscious
    will begin to cooperate with you and recall will increase and the recording
    process will become second nature.  If you tell yourself that you will
    remember it and you don't write it done, more often that not, you will
    forget most, if not all, of the details.  Second, learn your personal dream
    language.  Don't rely on dream dictionaries or other people to intrepret
    your dreams for you.  In the beginning don't spend too much time on the
    symbols, rather concentrate on the theme of the dream.  After a while,
    the meaning of the symbols will make themselves apparent.  It does take
    time, but be patient.  To recall a dream and successfully interpret it
    from time to time is nice, but to see how they all fit into the flow of 
    your own consciousness and to feel the power that is behind them and begin
    to see how they can help you affect change is wonderful.

    Hope this helps.

    Terry

    From therapy:  Death in a dream does not necessarily signify literal
    dying, it may also mean "death" of a certain aspect of or situation
    in your life, a profound change, whether in attitude or location.
    
    But then, you didn't say you actually died.  Maybe your exploding
    head represents a mental or emotional release of some kind.
    

    Re: the feeling when your head exploded

    I know what you mean. I once had a dream where I was shot in the head
    by a shotgun. The feeling as I woke up was incredible. It was quite
    awhile before I could lay down and go back to sleep.

    Pete

    RE .9 (GEORGE)
    
    Somehow i don't think you are taking this subject seriously.Some of us
    are very interested in these matters and don't appreciate being told
    that we have been watching too many violent movies. Maybe one day your
    inner self will come to the forefront of your imaginatory sphere,and
    you will be able to comprehend the underlaying meaning of your own
    dreams.
    
    						Jim.
    

    Re .13 (Jim)
    
    	Would you be as kind enough to tell me what my "Imaginatory sphere"
    is exactly ???
    	If you are talking about the equilibrium between the conscious and
    unconscious mind then I'm glad to tell you that my "sphere" has turned
    full circle and is complete. As for my inner self ; that is between me
    and essential forces that substain life itself.
    	But back to the main topic : 
    I would be very interested to hear your explanation for the recurring
    dream in question and I'm sure there are other interested noters
    waiting too. Dreams are such complex and sometimes irrational things
    that no one can afford to treat this subject lightly and I was slightly
    offended as that is what you implied in your note.
    
    						George.
    
    P.s One other explanation for the dream could be the consumption of too
    much Cheese before bedtime.
    

    There are many interpretations about what dreams are.  What is now
    the "mainstream" interpretation is that they represent or are side
    effects of subconscious attempts to process information (though many
    who hold that view would not be comfortable with this way of describing
    it -- talking about "processing information" is too "techie"). 
    Sometimes perhaps, according to this interpretation, dreams may
    represent attempts by the subconscious to communicate with the
    conscious; especially if our consciousness has demonstrated a
    willingness to listen to such messages.
    
    I think that this interpretation is a reasonable explanation for what
    is observed about dreaming.
    
    Given this interpretation, we would expect dreams to contain a whole
    variety of contents, from the trivial (resulting from, for example,
    the sorting out of ideas and images from the previous days' events;
    and from the examination of chance juxtapositions before they are
    rejected as useless) to the highly significant (resulting from attempts
    to deal with internal conflicts causing major problems).
    
    In fact, bad dreams from watching violent movies would be closer to the
    latter category than the former.  Violent movies are likely to cause
    emotional conflicts as ones subconscious tries to come to terms with
    the content and ones ambivalent feelings about them.  I don't think
    that every internal conflict needs to be externalized to be solved:
    for the most part the subconscious is quite good at dealing with its
    own problems, thank you.  It is good, however, to keep an eye on the
    subconscious and to see how it is doing.  A repetetive dream, or even
    a repetitive dream theme may indicate a conflict that the subconscious
    is having trouble dealing with.
    
    Keep in mind that dreams are assembled from bits and pieces of
    remembered images and events.  That they contain imagery derived from
    war movies does not mean that they are *about* war movies, only that
    specific elements of those movies (perhaps not the obvious ones) were
    handy associations for what was actually being processed.
    
    Even given the "too many war movies" interpretation, it is important to
    ask why those were too many war movies?  What about those movies caused
    conflicts that could not be resolved easily?
    
    As for cheese sandwiches -- I know of no reason to suppose that "rich
    food" before sleeping effects the contents or number of dreams.  At
    most it only effects their vividness, and therefore the ease to which
    they are remembered.
    
    On the other hand...
    
    There is nothing wrong with a little humor, and George has as much
    right to express his opinions -- including an opinion, right or wrong
    -- that people may be taking dreams a bit *too* seriously.  Don't take
    it personally and get insulted -- he is only disagreeing with you, not
    attacking you (and not, I think, disagreeing that much).
    
    Keep in mind the amazing "projective" abilities of the human mind. 
    Psychologists use this ability in what are called "projective tests"
    the best known of which is the Rorshak Ink-Blot test.  A high rate of
    significance found in recalled dreams may simply indicate an ability
    to find quite real conflicts in dreams which, in fact, have nothing to
    do with them.  This in no way trivializes, but the subconscious
    communication occuring would then be in the "projective interpretation"
    instead of in the dreams themselves.
    
    Or, of course, maybe not.  I am not by any means denying the
    possability of training your dreams to be a highly efficient mechanism
    for communicating ones subconscious thoughts to the conscious.
    
    Only my opinions, of course...
    
    					Topher

    EVERYONE HAS THEIR OPINIONS ON WHAT ACTUALLY CAUSES DREAMS TO
    HAPPEN,BUT HAS ANYONE OUT THERE ACTUALLY TRIED TO UNDERSTAND THE
    DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DREAMS AND NIGHTMARES?DO NIGHTMARES OCCUR WHEN YOUR
    CONSCIOUS AND SUBCONSCIOUS STATES OF MIND ARE INTERACTING TOGETHER AND
    THE INFORMATION BEING SHARED IS SO ASTRONOMICAL THAT YOUR MIND CAN'T
    COPE?OR COULD IT BE THAT YOUR SUBCONSCIOS HEMOSPHERE HAS TURNED FULL
    CIRCLE?I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO HEAR SOME VIEWS ON THIS PARTICULAR
    ASPECT OF DREAMS.
    
                   JIM

    Please excuse the use of upper case wording in the previous reply.
                             regards Jim

    Jim .16
    
    I once heard that some nightmares are a result of the subconscious mind
    trying to get a message through to the conscious concerning an issue
    that needs to be dealt with.  If the conscious mind chooses not to deal
    with it in waking life and it is something that needs to be resolved, 
    the issue (can be a simple one) can take on "nightmarish" proportions
    in an attempt to simply get the attention of the conscious mind to work
    it.
    
    In nightmares of this sort, solutions can also be found amidst the
    varioius layers of melodramatic props and scenes.  I had a problematic 
    issue at one point that created many off-shoot issues that I was running 
    around trying to "fix".  When I fixed one, another would be created 
    somewhere else.  One night I had a nightmare that I was being chased and 
    hunted down by a killer plant whose vines were steadfastly creeping after 
    me, no matter where I went to secure myself.  Somehow these vines would 
    find their way through ventilation systems, whatever, to get to me in 
    attempts to kill me.  (Sounds like a take off on a good sci-fi thriller 
    or something.)  
    
    Anyway, I realized in the midst of the panic and frustration I was
    feeling in the nightmare that I could get rid of this plant by going to
    the *root* of the problem and killing that.  I woke up and realized that
    that was the answer to the issues in my waking life that had been so
    frustrating.  I had not yet addressed the *root* of the problem.  I
    was busy running around trying to kill the vines.
    
    I cannot comment about other types of nightmares that might be sourced
    from other actual events or traumas that people experience, but to say
    that a person may need some outside assistance in dealing with those,
    depending on how debilitating they are.
    
    In general, my sense is that nightmares are the subconscious mind's 
    *best* attempt at presenting or processing necessary information to
    help heal and make us whole when other avenues are not readily 
    available or accessible at that time.
    
    Kb  
                                       

    
    RE.13.14
    
    	The talk of the, "imaginator sphere/equilibrium",of the
    sub-consious/consious state of the mind,(dreams/nightmares),
    could be related to the paradox of the univers?.
    
    If you can imagine, starting on the outside of a figure eight,
    and following your way round,till you reach the start point again,
    with a slight twist in the figure, it`s possible to start on the 
    outside, and come inside the figure, before returning, to the outside
    again.
    
    Thus given you, your consicous state, crossing over your sub-consicous.
    At that cross over point, there must be so much confusion over the
    state of consicouness,that nightmares and dreams must occur???????????.
    
    

    RE .19
    
    	Should read "state of consciousness" not consiouness.

    RE .19
    
    I found your explanation very interesting. The "Figure eight" that you
    were describing is actually called a "MOBIUS STRIP" and is a good way
    of describing that the Fourth Dimension actually exists. The fourth
    Dimension could actally be the pathway that dreams take to travel from
    the sub-conscious to the brain via the "Visionary loop". 
    In an earlier note Jim raised the subject of Nightmares and I agree
    with the comments that due to the bombardment of information that at
    certain times dreams can become self-destructive and convey negative
    messages. I also think that not all dreams can be broken down and sense
    made out of them, I had a dream the other night that I was travelling
    down the motorway at 50mph sitting on the back of an electric toaster,
    I was awoken by the sight of an 10ft Chicken overtaking me !!!!
    If anyone can make anything out of that dream I would like to hear from
    them.
    
    						GEORGE
    

    RE:21
    
    GEORGE i think you were encountering a negative reality inversion which 
    usually occurs in the forth dimension.the 10ft chicken probably
    represented the magnitude of the forth dimension while the toaster
    represented your transportation into the "Visionary loop"The fact that
    it was travelling at 50 mph simply means that your journey will be a slow
    one. 
                               allan

RE: .21 (George)
    
    > I had a dream the other night that I was travelling down the motorway 
    > at 50mph sitting on the back of an electric toaster...

    Did you find you were 'popping' out of bed all night ;-)))))))

    Actually, maybe you are headed somewhere (in waking life) and you
    aren't using the right tools to get here and, as a result, the
    'chickens' (who/whatever they are) are gonna get you.

    Terry

    
    Wouldn't ya know?  I finally read somethin' ripe for an
    "interpretation" ( heh, heh...) and the old joke machine's
    on the blink....darn Maytag repairmen....
    
    Guy
    @^%

    re: .21
    
    George,
      
    What a chicken!  To me, that's just another way of saying, "What a 
    coward!"  And to "sit on" something is to delay it.  Why don't you
    get into the toaster instead of perching on it?  Aren't you top-heavy?
    Isn't that a rather precarious ride?  If, on the other hand, you were
    in the toaster, wouldn't you be toasting?  And if you were toasting,
    wouldn't you be talking, perhaps even very fast at, say, "fifty miles
    an hour?"  Talking images are reinforced here by the fact that the word
    "toaster" is an almost perfect anagram (rearrangement) of the word
    "roadster," which can mean an open-air convertible.  The two words also
    sound alike.  And the word "open-air" is often linked to the word
    "forum" which, again, is associated with lecturing or talking. 
    
    So, here is a possible interpretation:  you've been asked to give a 
    speech - and you're scared.
    
    
    Virginia
    
       
    

    re: .0
    
    Jamie,
     
    Here is a possible interpretation of the recurrent dreams.  I'm 
    going to try to show that the disease AIDS is being symbolized, but
    please bear in mind that AIDS may itself be a symbol for aides or
    helpers or other diseases.  You may be in a too-many-cooks-spoil-the
    broth situation in which your talents are being wasted, or you may be
    very disturbed by people who are shooting you repeatedly, as with a
    camcorder...
     
    You, like many of your contemporaries, are involved in the sexual re-
    volution.  You're straight, middle-of-the-roaders, who have no prob-
    lems with sexual orientation; you like (dig) yourselves, and you're
    likable (winning).  You're successfully ambushing and dispatching those
    who are trying to pass for straight, but aren't.  Then a figure, who is
    the-end-of-the-road personified, appears with a dire warning.  "Run!"
    An invincible enemy is about to arrive.  The figure uses the same for-
    mat that Paul (pall) Revere used when he "...spread the alarm, through
    every middlesex, village, and farm...," shouting, "The British are com-
    ing!  The British are coming!"  The figure shouts, "The Christians are
    coming!"  Historically, the Christians were innocent victims who were
    fed to the lions.  They were attacked and consumed by these beasts.  
    They are similar to the people of today who have been attacked and are
    being consumed by the disease of AIDS.  AIDS is widespread; AIDS is 
    lethal.  To interact with these carriers is to risk being invaded by a
    hoard of viruses; and those who have been involved in promiscuous sex
    (whored) may have been infected unwittingly.  To retreat to a more
    restrictive sexual environment (atoll) with known sexual partners
    (floors) seems to offer a solution, but it turns out that they, too,
    either are or become infected.  They let you have it again!  You're a
    goner.  
    
    
    Virginia
    

    
    I was thinking about this dream of "The Chistians are Coming!" last
    nite and I think that the Christians are not the outer, physical 
    kind, but an inner equivalent.  You feel oppressed by dogma....?
    
    Just an idea.
    
    Guy

    re .25
    
    Did you also know that if you add a few letters and take a few letters
    away that "toaster" becomes an anagram of "2.8 injection Capri". And
    the amazing thing is that recently I have been thinking of selling my
    car and buying a 2.8i Capri !!!!!!
    	As for the rest of your interpretation I'm afraid you were barking
    up the wrong tree, but don't be dis-appointed as I'm sure that with
    practice you will develop your interpretory skills.
    
    						George
    
    

    Re: .28

    Well George. I think it's clear now isn't it.
    Quite rightly your subconcious is *very* worried
    about you buying the Capri. You'll get your fingers
    (and other parts) burned. Do yourself a favour and
    buy a Japanese car and a pair of oven gloves instead.

John.

    And by the way, was that you I saw last night
    over-taking me on an empty can of beans?

    
    And another thing,if you added a few more,subtracted another few,youd
    get.." Boy racer only needs fluffy dice now for Capri and some go
    faster sripes"  :-)
    
    But about Jamies problem with getting shot..I tend to think that
    sometimes dreams do interp.what is happening in our lives,but
    isnt it amazing how long that feeling will last?
    
    P

    How come my toaster will only do 42 mph?
                                            -Perplexed in Peoria
    

    RE:  <<< Note 1151.31 by HPSTEK::EVANS "Not your father's Edsel!" >>>
         
    > How come my toaster will only do 42 mph?
    
    Any faster and the perserves would boil.

re: < Note 1151.32 by CSC32::MORGAN "Reality is the ultimate Rorschach." >

    >> How come my toaster will only do 42 mph?
    
    > Any faster and the perserves would boil.

    Mikie, I'd hate to have to look inside your toaster!  You put the butter
    and jelly on the toast *after* it is toasted ;-))))

    Terry

    Re:  <<< Note 1151.33 by USAT05::KASPER "All life can be a ritual" >>>
        
   > Mikie, I'd hate to have to look inside your toaster!  You put the butter
   > and jelly on the toast *after* it is toasted ;-))))
   
    Oh.

    RE:31
    
    if your toaster will only do 42mph then its bound to be needing a 
    service and a good tune up.
      
              i had the same problem.
                        
                                     ok.

    perhaps it's been clogged up with too much
    white bread? Stick some *wholemeal* bread in
    - that'll clean its tubes. ;-)

    Bread?  Bread?
    
    I thought it was Muffins. 
    (42 Muffins per Hour, right?)
    
    Now is that a peak 42 MPH, say for a few people for breakfast,
    or a sustained 42 MPH, as for a major family reunion?
    
    Generally a whole wheat muffin will toast faster, so that would help...
    
    
    thanks
    dwp

    
    NIP DIP SIP...... MY BRAIN'S EXPLODING !!!!!!!
    

    
                JAMIE   

                    I SERIOUSLY SUGGEST YOU SEEK SOME SERIOUS HELP!
                                    FAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                                                               
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
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       I think you should get some help on how to get out of notes reply.
    
       CTRL/Z. will help......
    
    
    
                                NIP DIP SIP -------- BANG!
    

    Thanks for all your replies. Not sure what it meant after all, if
    anything. Suppose I was just hit so hard by the dream that I imagined
    it must mean *something*. I'm not religious, nor do I feel threatened
    by religion. I'm not sure the AIDS interpretation holds much for me
    either.
    
    Perhaps it was just a time where so many things were happening and they
    all built up to a climax in my dreams. I was in the process of changing
    jobs, so I suppose that could have added to the tension.
    
    That's my theory, anyway. Still one hell of a dream though ;-)
    
    Shame about .39 though; I'll probably lose more sleep over the thought
    that someone like him has finally figured out how to get into notes
    (perhaps one day he'll figure out how to get out again!!!) than I could 
    ever lose over nightmares ;-)
    
    
    
    Cheers and thanks again,
    
    
    				Jamie.

    re: .0,.41
    
    Jamie,
    
    In the light of the fire that occurred on March 6 at the Crescent in
    Basingstoke, England, I'd like to offer a new interpretation of your
    dreams.  (For those unfamiliar with the major fire at this facility,
    there's a lot of relevant information in Marvin::UK_Digital, note 389.)
    I'm going to assume that when you wrote the original note in Dejavu,
    you were working in or near the Crescent.  I'm going to assume, too,
    that you're familiar with the song "Onward Christian Soldiers," the
    words of which fit so perfectly with your dream that I can't ignore
    them.
    
    I think that your dreams were precognitive.  By "precognitive" I mean
    that they were showing you a future happening that, unless something
    intervened to prevent it, was going to occur.  If this speculation is
    correct, then I also think that there was a reason that you dreamed the
    dreams when you did and not, for example, a month or two before.  Some-
    how the fire must have been in-the-works at or around that point in
    time.
    
    I now associate the "Christians" with "soldiers."  Soldiers are people
    who shoot or fire; and it would be correct to call them fire-men or 
    firemen.  So the Christians come and shoot you in the head.  Perhaps 
    the "head" or "in the head" is being used as a symbol of "where you 
    work."  In the dream you are closely associated with "fire."  First
    you fire, and then the Christians or firemen respond and put you out
    of commission.  Another word in your dream that is linked to "Christ-
    ian" is "hoard."  It's interesting that one of the meanings of "hoard"
    is "...a temporary board fence put up around a building ...being re-
    paired."  Is there any such fence around the Crescent now?  
    
    The above-mentioned song goes, "Onward Christian Soldiers, Marching as
    to war, With the cross of Jesus, Going on before."  Now I'll emphasize
    certain letters with capitals:  MARCHing...CRoss...jES...goING.  The fit
    between those letters and the fire in MARCH at the CREScent in BasING-
    stoke, eNGland is really phenomenal.  
    
    (Remembering the response elicited in earlier replies in this note
    to my comment that "toaster" was an almost perfect anagram of "road-
    ster"; and therefore anticipating similar responses to the MARCHing...
    correspondence above, I have to say that it's possible (and fun!) to
    find "messages" in almost any phrases in English.  But if the messages
    don't fit into the context or the total picture of the dream, then 
    they're not alternate interpretations.  They're nonsense!)             
        
    I think you were right in feeling that the dreams meant something. 
    They didn't come out of the blue.  They were constructed in response
    to specific information and specific feelings.  Only your brain knows
    for sure, but the fire at the Crescent *did* happen.  What do you
    think?
    
    Virginia