| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name
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| 1071.1 | Pandemonia Revisited | SALEM::CATANIA | Stranger than fiction | Fri Jun 16 1989 11:41 | 54 | 
| 1071.2 |  | NEXUS::MORGAN | Celebrating the Cybernetic Age. | Sun Jun 18 1989 03:04 | 25 | 
|  |     Reply to .0 and .1,
    
    I don't know it I'd call it demonic. Perhaps chthonic is better. In
    some reasonable esoteric systems a viable shortcut to the higher
    spiritual realms exists by going down into the lower realms. Please be
    aware that your present belief system colors negatively any chthonic
    experiences that might benefit you. 
    The entity you saw or experienced in the semi-disemodied state is
    called the Guardian. It is the shadow form of your fears and hatreds. 
    
    My experiences are pretty much the same as yours with different
    details. I think that ultimately, during physical life, the shadow or
    Guardian has to be intergrated back into your being. Jung has much to
    say on this. 
    
    Please don't let it discourage you. That only generates more fear for
    the Guardian to feed upon. 
    
    As a suggestion please break up your writings into paragraphs. It's
    difficult to follow a train of thought over 100 lines. 
    
    I'd be willing to converse with you on this either in mail or here. I'm
    on vacation now until the 26th. 
                                   
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| 1071.3 | ? | BTOVT::BEST_G | Nostradamus: Fault's Prophet | Tue Jun 20 1989 11:12 | 5 | 
|  |     
    Could someone define "Demonic Realm" and "Chthonic Realm" for the 
    lay-pagan, so we might discern some difference between the two?
    
    Guy
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| 1071.4 | Looked it up | DNEAST::CHRISTENSENL |  | Tue Jun 20 1989 11:50 | 11 | 
|  |     Isn't "lay-pagan" an oxymoron? ;^)
    
    Anyhow, FWIW, chthonian as defined by my encyclopedic dictionary
    has to do with belonging to the underworld or divinities of sub-
    terraneous regions.
    
    I suggest this is the source of Heavy Metal; but then again, I could be
    wrong.  Again, demonic has to do with forms evil takes and really
    nothing to do with the earth except folks notion of where *down* is.
    
    L.
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| 1071.5 | Hey Larry!  Did you get my Email a couple weeks ago? | BTOVT::BEST_G | Nostradamus: Fault's Prophet | Tue Jun 20 1989 12:12 | 22 | 
|  | Re:Note 1071.4    DNEAST::CHRISTENSENL                               
                             
    >Isn't "lay-pagan" an oxymoron? ;^)
                Probably.  But that's just my opinion from the ones I've
                dealt with. :-)
      
  >  Anyhow, FWIW, chthonian as defined by my encyclopedic dictionary
  >  has to do with belonging to the underworld or divinities of sub-
  >  terraneous regions.
    
   > I suggest this is the source of Heavy Metal; but then again, I could be
        
                I'm not so sure the source is as subterranean as it is
                sub-human. 
:-)
Guy    
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