Conference hydra::dejavu

    Sarah Ann Pryor?
    

    
    	This sounds similar to a description I recently read in Ted
    Holiday's book, _The_Goblin_Universe_.   In this book he
    describes several different types of spiritual encounters, and
    this story fits what he would have called a ghoul.
    
    	The ghoul, as he describes it is a specific location that
    seems to contain a 'recording' of some powerful emotion, from some
    event that took place at same spot at an earlier time.   He says
    it's not an actual spirit presence, but is more like a recording
    in a specific location.   One can map the area affected by the
    'ghoul' by walking back and forth in and out of the affected area.
    
    	Your friend might be interested in trying psychometry, if she
    is talented in this direction.   It is said that some people have
    the ability to read the past history of objects, by holding them.
    
    						Alan.

    
    A practical idea (I hope):
    
    If "Lucy" wants to, she could probably find out pretty easily
    if anyone matching the description she pictures died in that area.
    Newspapers, people who've lived there a long time, the police
    department, the town clerk, any of these might help.  'Course, you
    have to be careful asking people for that kind of information (they
    might think you're strange).  I've had people tell me that they
    "thought something terrible happened" at a place, but this could
    usually be explained as a psychological thing where the person develops
    an idea about a place that they then can't shake - such as kids
    being terrified of a particular closet because "it has monsters
    in it."  This woman's reaction seems awfully extreme to be that,
    but maybe it is.
    
    Hope she feels better soon.
    
    
    

    Re .2
    
    An interesting suggestion, seems to fit all we know so far.
    
    Re .3
    
    Some friends of Lucy have made a start using the local newspaper
    and unfortunately, even with the issues recorded on Microfiche,
    the sheer volume of work that has to be done, without a definite
    date ( anywhere between '75 and '85 is the best guess so far ) is
    proving obstructive...
    
    ...anyone done this sort of thing before ? Is there any way to make
    it easier ?
              
    
    FWIW, my initial feelings are that perhaps some essence of the "victim"
    is trapped at this place and has, maybe, called to Lucy for help ? 
    
    Dave.

    
    RE: .4
    
    	I havn't done very much research work, however I have known
    people who have. (Histories of towns and people and such.)
    	They have always tried to start of first with local folks
    who were closely connected to the subject of research first.
    Then go to the newspapers and such. You really dont know
    what kind of event you are looking for and it would seem
    possible or almost probable that you will skip over or miss
    what you are looking for if your not sure about dates, or
    people involved.
    	Are there any local homes in that area? Door to door asking
    for long time residents or for any rememberances could pin down
    a little more for you.
    	You also might want to take a stap at contacting your local
    chapter of Senior Citizens. Contact the person in charge first
    and ask if you could grab a few minutes from a meeting to ask if
    anyone could recall any stories or such about that specific area?
    Acknoledge that you understand this is rather strange but you are
    very curious.
    	Local Hysterical (Historical) Societies are also filled with
    gabby old women who are filled with the stories of the town and
    sitting and listening to someone tell stories is much more enjoyable
    than looking through a microfich. (it also is good therapy for the
    story teller and yourself) ;-) 
    
    craig
    

RE: .4 (Dave):
    
    Also Dave, don't reject the obvious before you've considered it.  You
    should consider talking to some police (preferably off duty, over
    coffee or whatever) and to local reporters.  Either has the risk
    of being high exposure approaches, so you definitely should not
    jump into that course, but (1) they are the ones most likely to know,
    (2) if your search is successful and you find something your going to
    be morally obligated to go to the police anyway, (3) you can probably
    think of a good cover story or at least act as an intermediary
    until/unless something is found and it becomes an issue open to
    requiring legal testamony.  So consider it -- its the highest
    efficiency approach.
    
    Also, as a personal favor, could you get everything down on paper or
    tape with photos of the area, mark maps, and anything else you can
    think of to indicate precise information.  It should all be dated
    and given to someone neutral (I volunteer, but someone of "standing"
    might be better).
    
    Keep in mind, however, that even if such things can happen (as I
    believe they can) that reactions such as you describe can
    unquestionably be triggered by completely non-paranormal phenomena.
    For example, a faint odor pecular to the area, or some other innocuous
    local feature or combinations of features, may be triggering distorted
    recall of some frightening childhood event of her own.  By all means,
    though -- do investigate -- that's the only way we have a hope of
    knowing one way or the other.
    
    					Topher

    RE: .0
    
    Has your friend considered contacting a local Psyshic that might
    be willing to travel to the site?  If the impressions are as strong
    as described, then the psychic may be able to bring forth some valuable
    information that could save a lot of time searching files, etc.
    	Also, have you thought that she may have stumbled upon a murder
    scene and that a body may be buried close by!  Perhaps, this entity
    is trying to bring itself to light to ease the minds of loved ones
    who have no answers to her disappearance?
    
    Dan
    

    i was going to say that perhaps a medium might be interested
    in helping your friend out,visiting the site etc.
    
    as for it being a murder site.surely the police would be
    the best people to ask,misiing persons that sort of thing?
    
    phil

    Has anything been found on this incident?  Your story made me feel
    really sad.  It seems to me like the blond girl is trying desperately
    to make herself and/or her situation known, and is possibly hoping
    that your friend can help.  Maybe she wants to let the public know
    who killed her. (I know it sounds almost like a movie plot, but
    it is possible).  Please let me know (if you can) if anything has
    been turned up.
    Jennifer
    

    Reading through this note I got the same impression as .7...maybe
    if you digged at the spot? Sounds terrable I know...but god I gor
    some wierd vibes from the idea.
    
    Bruce, Leeds

    Re the last few.
    
    'Lucy' has now moved house away from the place in question, and now
    wishes not to even discuss the experience. I have visited the spot but
    failed to 'feel' or see anything unusual. 
    
    Short of finding teams of volunteers to scour ten years worth of
    newspapers ( even in England, deaths / disappearances are frighteningly
    frequent which makes the task of finding *one* that might fit even more
    complex ) and digging the area, there seems little else to be done but
    let the matter rest.

    Dave 

    I know that you said that our friend wanted to let the matter rest,
    and I don't mean to pry, but has anything else been discovered on
    this matter?  I've been away at school for a semester, and yet this
    story sort of haunts me.  It gives me such a feeling of sadness.
    I know that there isn't much I can do to help, especially if your
    friend wants to forget the whole ordeal, but my prayers are with
    her.  It must be a horribly draining experience to think about the
    vision she saw and the feelings she felt.
    
                             Jennifer