Conference hydra::dejavu

    Have you ever been driving down the freeway and look up at the car
    next to you to find that person looking at you?  Or have you ever
    looked at the guy in the next car and he immediately looks up and
    looks you right in the eye?
    
    Try looking at someone in a crowd and concentrating on them...they
    will usually look up and look you right in the eye within seconds;
    and if you're a long distance away, they will look up rather confusedly
    in your direction as if searching for something.
           
    This seems to be unusually true for me; I often can't look at a
    stranger without them seeming to notice (eyes in the back of their
    head) and turning around and looking right at me...makes it very
    difficult to check out the ladies, eh?  
    
    Has anyone else noticed this?  It seems to be unusually strong with
    me.  Scientific explanations, anyone?
    
    DW

    re .1:
    
    >Have you ever been driving down the freeway and look up at the car
    >next to you to find that person looking at you?  Or have you ever
    >looked at the guy in the next car and he immediately looks up and
    >looks you right in the eye?
    >
    >Try looking at someone in a crowd and concentrating on them...they
    >will usually look up and look you right in the eye within seconds;
     
    Some of the esoteric groups claim this is a primitive form of
    telepathy.  The person being "looked at" receives a faint impression
    that someone or something is looking at him or her.  Many years
    ago, the California group of Rosicucians (the ones that advertise
    on the back of pulp magazines) had an ad entitled "thoughts have
    wings," instructing readers to look at someone and concentrate on
    looking at them hard; they claim that within a minute or two that
    person will get uneasy and look at you.   They said it works very
    well in crowded rooms, such as theater audiences during intermissions
    and the like.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

    
    	Obviously....  
    		your eyes must be similar to squirt guns, or perhaps
    like those harpoon throwers.    Wear sunglasses to keep people
    from figuring out whose eyeballs disturbed them.  Remember not
    to let your expression flicker or they'll figure it out.
    
    	Always, before I get to a party, someone passes out three
    or four little buttons with my name on them.   I know they
    just wait to catch my eye, then they push the button (concealed
    in a pocket).   At that point I have a psychic experience,
    heartthrob, dejavu or something...    There's nothing magical
    about this, the buttons just signal extra-terrestrial guardians
    who telepathically change brain structures.....
    
    Alan.

    Ok, I think there might be TWO disparate topics here; one is the
    "feeling" of knowing someone before and one of telepathy (perhaps).
    
    I have been introduced to the concept of a "karmic circle" through
    a variety of readings.  This concept refers to the existence of
    a group of souls/entities that travel through the planes of
    existence together.  That is why some people you meet, you 
    immediately know/like/dislike.  These people are with you throughout
    your existence(s) while other people (even the ones you thought
    were "soulmates" at the time) drop out of your awareness--never
    to return.
    
    The other phenomenon of talking about someone and having them
    call or walk in (...speaking of the devil...); watching someone
    watch you; echoing the same thoughts, etc.--could be empathy, could
    be telepathy, could be harmonic sympathy of aware souls--whatever
    it is, it usually is a lot of fun!  
    
    --Eve
    

    Thanks for all the input.
    
    Eve, I know what you're saying about immediate like/dislike of
    someone; I once knew this guy (who was overtly really nice, but
    something. . .I don't know) that I simply could not get within
    10 feet of, I don't know what it was, like a smell I couldn't
    smell, or something. . .found out later that many other people
    felt that way about him.  I've since bumped into him (he now
    works in a retail store as a cashier) and for some reason didn't
    feel it there.
    
    I like the idea of souls travelling together, that's what makes
    the connection. . .kind of a "frequent flyer" program for karma,
    huh?
    
    :^)
    
    E.
    

    .3
    
    Sounds interesting...
    
    Sorry if this sounds strange to you...but it happens and I can't
    stop it from happening just because it sounds strange to other people.
    Maybe I shouldn't talk about it...interestingly enough, after reading
    .3 I asked a secretary here in the office, right off the cuff, if
    she had ever experienced knowing when someone was looking at her...she
    said, "Oh yeah, some guy in a 'Vette was checking me out at lunch,
    I felt somebody looking at me and looked over and he was looking
    me over."  
    
    .2  
    
    Yes, I've seen the ads...too bad that such a great group of people
    have such a poor choice of where they put their advertising, and
    too bad that they try to appeal to people in an overly sensationalistic
    way...I'm afraid that's how some of their ads strike me.  Thanks
    for the info, Steve.
    
    DW 

    Coincidence Strikes Again.....Or is there more to it!!
    
         On way in to work today I was pondering whether or not to attend
    a party I was told about planned for this weekend.  For some reason
    one person in particular stood out in my mind.  He should be attending
    the party but I really don't know him as we never worked together
    closely.  We used to work in the same facility but I being a Dec
    Temp change locations rather frequently (I start as a real live
    Digital employee on Monday :-) Hooray!!)  This person is now working
    at the same facility as I again.  For some reason I had a feeling
    that I would bump into him while in the caf. getting coffee (big
    facility - not likely to just run into one particular person!).
    
         What do you know!  While leaving the caf. he was just walking
    in!  We made eye contact but exchanged no plesantries as he dosn't
    know me.  Okay, not too weird you think.  I'm at my desk no longer
    than 15 minutes when I answer a phone for a girl in my group who
    is not at her desk.  Who do you think it was?!  Yes you quessed
    it, it was him on the other end of the line.  I wasn't even suprised
    when he said his name, after all I had been expecting him!  Being
    the friendly person that I am, I told him where I knew him from
    and asked him how he liked his new job in this facility.  Yak Yak
    Yak then end of call.  I'm sure he's still a little confused as
    to who I am but it will give him something to wonder about.
    
         Well that's my stranger than science note for the week and
    remember "the shadow knows".  Hope everyones day is a good one!
    
    
    MH
    
    
    
    

    
    	Sometimes, I can turn someone's head - who's walking in front
    of me!
    
    	It works off mirrors too!
    
    		Sunglasses make no difference - goes right thru 'em...
    
    	It has a lot to do with the context of how you are holding their
    image...in your brain.
    
    	A driver ahead of you, waiting to pull out onto the road, can
    "tell" if you're seeing him. Sometimes I deliberately look away...
    
    	Ah, that majic feeling, the girl across the room when I was
    just a freshman in college - how "inappropriately" long we held
    it. I was too shy...
    
    	What a "powerful" man I felt, in making this exchange with the
    bassist for JLP; Ralphe Armstrong - a Mahavishnu (?)
    
    	A friend, relates a story, of being approached by a fella "pushing"
    some religion, glared at the guy with his pierceing blue eyes and
    said "I'll suck your soul right out through your eyeballs, if you
    ever approach me again" (What a meanie!) Needless to say, the guy 
    never did.
    
    	Some people, have quite a "signature" on this wavelength.
    
    	Sometimes, I wont allow this "line of sight eye contact"; I'll
    instantly "nix" the protocol. Sometimes I'll "search" every car
    going by the other way, to see if anyone will let me "in" - for
    just the passing moment. It's neat how you can tell when someone
    does!
    
    	Joe Jas
    

    I've read about an experiment in which this effect was demonstrated,
    with statistical significance, with the "viewing" done through a
    TV camera.  I don't remember the details, and what I read was only
    a summary not a technical report.  At the time my reaction was,
    "Sounds tight, but I need more information to be sure."
    
    					Topher

    Re .8:
    
    >"I'll suck your soul right out through your eyeballs if you
    >ever approach me again" ...  
    
    What a magnificent line!  I'm sure I'll find a use for it someday. :-)
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.                                    

    And all women who have been the unwilling recipients of peculiar
    propositions could probably put it to good use also!  [I might change
    the name of the item to be sucked out through the the eyeballs
    depending on the perceived level of consciousness of the obnoxious
    person ;-)].
    
    Marcia

    
    Yah!
    

    re: .11
    
    Normally I throw *whoever* a withering Scorpio stare, but I like
    your idea better.  Whoa!!
    
    ...dale

    You've go the idea, Marcia!  I love it!

    I have Pluto (Scorpio's ruling planet) conjunct my Ascendent (rising
    sign degree).  One of the first astrologers I went to correctly
    guessed that fact before she drew up my chart; "You have real Pluto
    eyes," were her words.  (My eyes are almost black and deepset.)
    So I know that stare; I've used it (very useful in business meetings 
    too).  Usually what I think to myself while employing it is, "You're 
    going to fry," and 9 times out of 10 the offensive person starts to 
    shrivel up like a piece of bacon.
    
    Who needs guns and knives when you have Pluto eyes?  ;-)

    Marcia

    Gee, Marcia, I've been told that I have "bedroom eyes"....is
    that similar?   ;-)
    
                    DKW
    
    
    

    Re .15, .16:
    
    It depends on whether the "Pluto eyes" referred to the planet or
    the Disney character. ;-D
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

    Well, one thing Pluto is about is the depths of one's desire
    nature--any desires ;-).  However, Pluto is nowhere near your
    Ascendent.  Moon, Venus & Mercury all are closer; perhaps it's a
    combo of these that give you your own come-hither quality.
    
    I've wished that I _could_ put on bedroom eyes, when the occasion
    warranted.  Alas, I've heard from reliable sources (including my
    spouse) that when I am intensely desirous of anything physical or
    emotional, my eyes look like those of a starving jungle cat.  _Not_
    a look that inspires others to offer me what I desire . . . sigh
    . . .
    
    Marcia

    Well, the moon and venus both inspire us to romance
    don't they?  Perhaps that, and the fact that I'm an
    air sign, account for these blue blue eyes...however,
    I don't 'put on' bedroom eyes, they just happen.
    Sometimes at the most inopportune moments!
    
    I sometimes have 'jungle cat' eyes, Marcia-if chocolate
    is involved!!   ;-)
    
    

    RE: .18
    
    Well, the "starving jungle cat" look would inspire ME, Marcia! ;-)
    
    Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...
    
    
    John M.

    
    
    RE: .19 
    
    I have heard in the past that Aquarians have "bedroom eyes" - the
    men anyway.  And it is an air sign...   Anyone else ever hear
    this?
    
    Carole
    

Across a crowded room, the Disney channeler was making bedroom eyes at
the starving jungle cat, who looked on with an intense Scorpio stare at
Pluto, who sat in the corner eating chocolate.

    RE: .22
    Thank you, but we Virgos do not have "bedroom eyes."  
    
    Bar room eyes, maybe.
    
    
    John M.

    re: last few
    
    Thanks all of you for making my day.  I am still dusting myself
    off after falling of my seat with that wonderful prose.  :^)
    
    I have been told my Scorpio eyes can drop a man at 500 paces.....
    my challenge for Q2.
    
    ....dale

    I'd love to use that reply as my personal name, but it won't
    fit.  Damn . . .
    
    (Pluto eyes directed at terminal as noter tries to figure out if
    it can be done; terminal starts making electronic popping noises,
    screen goes crazy, tube explodes . . . anybody out there remember
    Scanners?)
    
    Marcia

.23 John;  Maybe that's why ur still a virgo  nyuck nyuck

.25 Marcia, Marcia, Marcia.. How would you explain that to Field Service?

Jay

    what I want to know, is WHATEVER would you do with the
    "soul" once it's been sucked out...
    
    ptooey!
    
    --Eve
    
    

    A devilish answer to .27:
    
    I hear it's a useful medium of exchange in some circles... :-)
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

.28  Mary   All of them.

.29 Steve   Eeeeuuuyyyeewwww!

Jay

    Seems to be a lot of Scorpios out there, I too am one.
    
    I have read before that Scorpios tend to seek all the answers to
    the questions of life and death.  Is that why this note file is
    so appealing?
    
    
    
    Just_another_big_eyed_girl
    

re .30

Jay,

Just finish my report or I'll hit you with such a stare!   ;-)

Ted

    Yup, another Scorpio here.  I have a few intense stares - very
    useful when you want something.  Sometimes my SO will ask me to
    STOP IT!
    
    Back to original note...
    When I was in school and would catch someone's eyes like that, I'd
    call it a 'brainscan'.   Lots of fun!
    
    Theresa.

    
    Wow!  I wonder what the percentage of Scorpios actively participating
    in this conference are?
    
    A trend perhaps?  John - wanna volunteer to tally?
    
    Cindy
    

    Lest I be misclassified....for the record, I'm a Libra.
    But then I don't have a Scorpio 'glare/stare' either...
    
    (but my son does and he IS a scorpio!  Does that count?)
    
    
    

    re .last_few:
    
    Before everybody goes Scorpio-buggy, let's take a deep breath. 
    It can be shown mathematically that if you take any random group
    of 30 people that there's better than a 50 percent chance that at
    least two of them have the same birth _day_, let alone birth month.
    (Though not necessarily birth year.)  So it's less of a coincidence
    that there are many Scorpios here; there are also several Tauri,
    a number of Aquarians, etc.....
    
    Not trying to throw water on anything, but....
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

RE: .36
    
    Actually, you're well above 50% by the time you have thirty people
    together.  The probability that at least two people in a group
    of thirty will share a birthday is just under 71%.  There is just
    over a 50% chance of there being at least two people sharing a birthday
    out of a group of 23 people.  Those figures assume that people are
    equally likely to be born on every day of the year, which isn't true. 
    When you take into account the tendency for people's birthdays to
    cluster at certain seasons the odds go way up further.
    
    If people were equally likely to be born in each of the twelve signs
    then you would expect, roughly, 1/12 of any randomly selected group
    of people to all be scorpios (or tauri, or whatever).  You would
    also expect that, just by chance, there would be *some* sign(s)
    over-represented, and some under-represented in any random group.
    
    This is made more complicated by the fact that people tend to be
    born during some times of year more often than other.  This is
    complicated further by the fact that these tendencies shift from
    year to year so that you have to know the ages of people in a
    particular group to know whether a particular sign is likely to
    be over or under-represented because of this seasonal effect.
    
    So, I'll have to agree with Steve: by all means enjoy discovering
    your "comrades-in-sign", but it would take a lot of work to figure
    out if "something was going on", and we would expect, given the
    number of people who read and contribute to this conference, that
    there would be bunches of people from even the least common signs.
    
    					Topher

    
    
    Well, I kind of like to keep track of commonalities in groups. 
    The group I meet with on Tuesday evenings consistently has members
    that have strong Scorpio/Pluto energy.  Like attracts like?
    
    As for me, Taurus that I am, I have a Scorpio moon and a very
    strong Pluto (Scorpio's ruler), so I can stare with the best of
    them!
    
    Carole

    re: -.1
        Is that stare or glare?  In my chauvinistic view of the world
    (which I work hard at changing) I would say that based on your sex
    that what you do is glare.  If you were a man, then you would probably
    be staring (not starring, unless of course we're talking life's
    experiences here.)
        I be a Libra with various organics rising (chortle, chortle!)
      
    See (...visually oriented me...) you around the cosmos!
      
    Frederick
    

    If you were a man you would be staring.. but all a woman does is
    glare?  Frederick... are you feeling all right? .... 

    
    In college I was given the nickname "Crosshairs". It seems that
    when someone ticks me off I sometimes give them a look that makes
    them feel like a target with a gunsight focusing in on it...
    

    Re .40:
    
    >If you were a man you would be staring.. but all a woman does is
    >glare?  Frederick... are you feeling all right? .... 
    
    Maybe he needs to start moving in new social circles. :-)
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    

    I'm not sure about the same day birthday, but as for the same sign,
    I work with a group of about 30 people and 10 of us are virgos(or
    is that (virgots:-). Makes for alot of parties around that time
    of year.
    					Geoff

    Why do I meet so few Aries in the world? I always have noticed that
    it seems to be a rare sign.  I share a birthday with Eric Clapton,
    March 30.
    
    In Islamic countries, isn't it a no-no to look at other people directly
    in the eye, especially strangers you pass on the street?  Does anyone
    know why this is?  It would make an interesting reply.
    
    WILD EYES by the Jefferson Starship
    
    I've got a girl with her eyes wide open; her vision pierces the
    sky
    Her name is Angel, she's just like a river
    Wild Eyes
    No-one can tell me and nobody knows
    Where she comes from and where she goes
    Such a dangerous girl with her dreams intact
    Wild Eyes
    
    There were days when we linked our arms
    Swayed and sang with our fists in the air
    And as the sirens sang, we asked for more
    than wild eyes.
    
    Doug Wetherington

RE: .43

    > 50% or 70% likely to have the same birthday?  I don't get it.  With
    > 365 days in a year and only 30 birthdays it seems very
    > disproportionate.

    That's why it is known as the Birthday Paradox (the term "paradox" may
    refer to an apparent contradiction as well as a real one).  The
    probability that out of a group of 30 people, one or more of them
    will have a *particular* birthday, say May 1, is about 8%.  So if we
    were to ask whether anybody in the group of 30 has the same birthday
    as, say the host of the party, there would only be an 8% chance of
    someone saying "yes" (neglecting the seasonal clustering effect).

    But what we are asking is something else.  First we choose one of
    the people in the party randomly.  The chance that no-one before
    him/her had the same birthday is one (since there is no one) so the
    probability that (s)he shares a birthday with someone previously
    chosen is 1-1 or zero.  Now we choose someone else at random.  The
    chance that no-one before him/her had the same birthday is 364/365
    (ignoring leap-day) since there are 364 birthdays which have not
    been taken and one which has.  So the chance that (s)he shares a
    birthday with someone previously chosen is 1-(364/365).  Assuming
    that that chance didn't come up we choose a third person.  The
    probability that THEY don't share a birthday with either of the
    previous two people is (363/365).  So the probability that the
    second person didn't share one with the first and that the third
    shared it with neither the first or the second is (364/365)*(363/365)
    or:

		364 * 363
		---------
		     2
		  365

    So the probability that some pair of people out of a group of three
    shares a birthday is:

		    364 * 363
		1 - ---------
			 2
		      365

    For four people its:

		    364 * 363 * 362
		1 - ---------------
			    3
			 365

    And in general for "n" people its

		    364 * 363 * ... * (366-n)
		1 - -------------------------
				 n-1
		              365

    For n=30 that works out to about 71%.

    And yes, your quite right, for 30 people, neglecting seasonal bunching,
    we would expect about 2.5 people would have some particular sign.  We
    would, however, expect *some* sign to have somewhat more than this
    (I'll have to think about how to calculate how many we would expect
    the sign with the maximum number of people to have).

					Topher

    Gee, all this time I thought the Eagles were singing
    about a woman with "lyin'" eyes and they really meant
    a person who was born in the sign of Leo..."lion" eyes.
    
    

    Sorry to burst your statistical bubble, Steve, but there is something
    a bit more significant going on.  And that something is powerful
    Pluto energy in the people interested in what we are often pleased
    to call the occult.
    
    Strong Pluto energy can be indicated in a birth chart in a number
    of ways:
    
    	Sun, Moon or Ascendent in Scorpio (Pluto's sign)
    	Sun, Moon, Mercury or Chart Ruler conjunct Pluto
    	Pluto conjunct a chart angle, especially the Ascendent
    	Sun, Moon or Chart Ruler in the 8th House (Pluto's House)
    	Stellium (at least 4 planets) in Scorpio or 8th House
    	Pluto at the apex of an aspect configuration
    	Pluto as chart dispositor (ultimate "ruler" of the whole chart)
    	Pluto as chart keystone (aspects more planets than any other)
    	Lunar nodal axis in Taurus/Scorpio or 2nd/8th House
    	Pluto aspecting lunar nodal axis, especially conjunctions or
    	 squares
    
    Having had the pleasure of reading a number of charts for many
    DEJAVUers, I can state that all of them have at least one of the
    above characteristics.  You can't assess the strength of a planet
    in a person's chart solely by saying "What's your Sign?".  So while
    it's correct to say that the "birthday analysis" is not statistically
    significant, using birthday alone doesn't get to the point where
    there is signifigance.
    
    When I began responding to requests for chart readings by readers
    and writers to this file, I wondered what I'd find.  "What a great
    chance", I thought, "to see what energies are prominent in the charts
    of people who are intensely interested in, and practicing various
    arcane disciplines."  And what I've found so far is that Pluto 
    is one of the stronger energies in those of this gang that I've
    had the chance to check out.
    

    Marcia

    I noticed that Carole said she is a Taurus.  So am I!  How many
    Taureans are in here?
    
    (Turning into a Scorpio conference only?)
    ;^)
    

    I'm much too bull-headed to admit to being a Taurus!
    
    						Topher

    If you want, I'll admit to being a Taurus.  'Cause it's true.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

Across a crowded room, the Disney channeler was making bedroom eyes at
the starving jungle cat, who looked on with an intense Scorpio stare at
Pluto, who sat in the corner eating chocolate.

They were laughing down under, cuz Disney's eyes looked more like bar
room eyes, but the hungry jungle cat stared on, causing Pluto to begin 
to make funny electronic popping noises. 

"I'll give you a soul, sucked out through the eye, for some of that
chocolate" the jungle cat said, as she held up a bottle with a devilish
grin. "Eeeeuuuyyyeewwww!" shrieked Pluto, "like, gross me out!"

Suddenly, Pulto realized he was surrounded by big_eyed Scorpios. Disney
had passed out in the corner, and Pluto felt the intense stares, like a
thousand green-eyed ladies brainscaning him til he yelled "STOP IT!"

"This is bizarre" he thought. "Is it coincidence or not? Is there a trend
here? So many Scorpios!" He wanted Disney to take a tally, but alas...

"I'm a Libra" came a voice, "but I can't count." "But you can count my
son, he's a Scorpio." "AHHHHHHH!" Screamed Pluto, "I'm going
Scorpio-buggy, this cannot mathematically be possible. There must be
several Tauri here. 

"You're not crazy Pluto." came the voice of reason. "The probability of
this happening is just under 71% or just over 50%, I forget which. But
there are several Tauri among us." "Seasons not withstanding, if you'll
notice, they are not all staring at you, some are glaring with wild
eyes and some have lion eyes. This is called the birthday paradox."

"Lyin eyes/lion eyes, what's the difference?" thought Pluto "I'm gettin
the channeller and gettin the hell outta here." Disney meanwhile was
rippin through the liquor cabinet, like a bull in a china shop, lookin
for a bottle of red Zinfandel, of the '78 vintage.

Will Pluto make it out with his sanity? Will the Disney channeller find a
good bottle of wine? Will the Tauri come to save this notes conference?

                       Stay tuned....to be continued

    Jay's flippin' out.  Someone brainscan this dude QUICK!
    
    Take two crystals and call me in the morning.  ;-)
    
    
    John M.

    That was better than the premiere episode of Star Trek!!
    
    
    Looking forward to the next installment!!
    
                      DK
    
    (am I the ONLY Libra in this crowd?)
    
    

    
    
    ... and what about us Cancer Moonbabies!?  We want to be included
    in this count too.  I haven't seen us mentioned - anymore of us
    out there?   
    
    My green eyes have always seemed to be a big attraction to the 
    males in my life - always made me feel different - like in "unique"
    - must be my chart ruler Uranus that makes me feel that way!
    
    Certainly enjoying reading this topic - brightens a person's day!

    When I want, I can burn holes in the backs of heads.  And the person
    I am aiming at ALWAYS knows!  I get alot of practice riding the
    NYC subway system several times a day. Beats the h*ll out of a crowded
    room!
    
    BTW  -  Am I the only Capricorn (12/24) in here? 

         

    
>    ... and what about us Cancer Moonbabies!?  We want to be included
>    in this count too.  I haven't seen us mentioned - anymore of us
>    out there?   
    
     Here's one... with the Sun in Cancer, the Moon in Aquarius, and
     Aquarius rising, but my signature sign is Scorpio. (thanks, Marcia!!)

     My eyes are hazel and they change dramatically with my moods.

					-- Mike  

    No, Moonbabies, you're definitely not the only ones out there. 
    My files have more Sun-in-Cancers than any other sign.  Makes me
    wonder if Moonbabies are more likely than other signs to seek to
    have their charts done. . .
    
    _I_ am a Sun-in-*Capricorn*.  With Leo rising (*Pluto* conjunct
    Ascendent), and Moon in *Taurus* (conjunct the Midheaven).  This
    makes me a bullish-moonbaby-traditional-goat-with-laser-eyes.
    I've got everything.  :-)
    
    Marcia

    Add one more to the bull count. >:}

    
    Hi, Mike - glad to have your company!  I'm a Cancer sun, Virgon
    Moon and Aquarius Rising.
    
    Marcia has been a big help to me as I've been going through some
    difficult times.  Glad to say my mid-life crisis is coming to an
    end; the worst is over.
    
    Marcia - a public thank you!  Do you think the reason you see more
    Cancer-type people is because they may tend to delve more into the
    occult - as a matter of fact I've heard that's true of water signs
    in particular.  Is it?  
    
    Rosemary

    Two things I've noticed.  One, that my Cancerian clients have seemed
    to have an instinctive knowedlge that their lives run in patterns
    and cycles, and have a curiosity to find out what those are (possibly
    the Lunar infleunce?).  The Cancers who seem to have been helped
    the most had felt somehow cut adrift from their own natural cycles,
    and very happy to know that what they were feeling or going through
    was part of a natural cycle.
    
    And yes, I've also noticed a strong interest in the "roots" of things,
    which can include the occult disciplines in addition to more mundane
    concerns with needs, nurturance, childhood, family and home among 
    the Lunar folk in my files.
    
    Strong lunar influence in a chart is not only indicated by Sun in
    Cancer, too, just as strong Plutonian influence is not only indicated
    by Sun in Scorpio.  The list I gave for Pluto can be applied to the
    Moon also; just substitute the sign name "Cancer" for "Scorpio",
    "Capricorn" for "Taurus", and "4th/10th" houses for "2nd/8th".
    
    Marcia
    
    PS.  You're welcome, Rosemary.

Well here's another Libran checking in.

Incidentally it seems that my eyes are the things people notice
about me - but in a soft, friendly way. I quite often feel
a surge of recognition when looking across a crowded room at someone.
But perhaps its just that eye contact is unusual and so intimate if
prolonged a fraction.

John D.

    
    
    Welp, here's another cancer.....but I'm marrying a Scorpio.
    We balance each other well. People have said my fiance has
    "bedroom" eyes.  They are sorta seductive!
    

Well, I get two votes, I'm a CUSP :-)! Cancer/Leo
Rising sign too (so I've been told) Sagittarius(sp?)/Capricorn.

Not a Scorpio anywhere in sight however... I don't know about Pluto...

And I have been told that I have a quelling stare.

-vicki

    

    
    I had a wonderful "meeting of old souls" at the Do'a concert this
    weekend in Somerville...as I was leaving the theatre, a woman caught
    my eye...I slowed down, and we continued this contact for an amazingly
    long time. I laughed, she laughed, and I went home feeling
    like I'd run into a soul I hadn't seen for many lives. Definitely
    warm fuzzies.
    
    (p.s. Put another mark in the Libra box)
    
    Tananda
    

My turn.  Since we seem to be taking a straw vote, this is the time of
year for it up North (NH).

There seems to be a lot of Scorpios interested in this notes file, or
at least this particular note.

This Sagittarian also has some interest in the occult/paranormal.  But
here is the rub -- I'm leading cusp and (you got it) therefore have some
Scorpio influences.  Does that count as a fraction of a Scorpio????

		ERP    

Well, I'm a Marxist, Groucho rising and I drive a Taurus  ;')

Actually, all I *do* know is I'm a Gemini, (or according to the native
American Earth Astrology, I'm a Deer, of the cornplanting moon).

.54 John; nuttin ta scan, and dem crsytals is hard to swallow  ;')

Jay

    Gee whiz! Am I the only Virgo here? Come to think of it, I haven't
    even *met* another Virgo for years! (Tho' the mother of a friend
    of mine says I'm a Leo, and she *knows* these things :-) )
    
    Dawn
    

    I am also a virgo, and I replied previously complaining (not TOO
    strenuously) about being surrounded by scorpio's.  As for whether
    you're Leo or Virgo, check an astrological chart for the exact date
    and time the sun passed out of Leo and into Virgo on your birth
    year (of course, this means you need to know what time of day you
    were born and all that).
    
    -Jody
    

    
    Another Virgo (at least I think I am.  Haven't had a chart done
    yet.)
    
    alison
    

    Are Virgos reticent, or just slow...	8-)>>
    dave p
    early september
   

    
    I'm a Pisces, but I have Virgo rising.....does that count???
    
    Fran

    To Fran:
    
    Sure does!  In fact astrologers in the Renaissance, in response
    to the question "What's your Sign?" would have responded with the
    rising sign, not the Sun sign!
    
    Marcia

    me too.
    
    -mike

    Oh goody! A gaggle of Virgi!
    
    Actually, I think we're just well-behaved, self-effacing, and modest!
    :-)
    
    Hi y'all
    
    Dawn
    

     
    Since we've digressed completely from whatever the original topic
    was...
    
    Along with my catalog from *Frederick* the other day...
    
    I received another interesting piece of mail and...
    
    thought of John Mitchell...(;^)
    
    so I forwarded it to him...
    
    for a good laugh!    
    
    And while we're talking about grapes...
    
    just wanted you all to know that...
    
    I like my champagne....
    
    au natural!
    
    And I LOVE chocolate!
        
    But what else could you possibly expect...
    
    from a Scorpio!    
    
    (;^)  <---Does this face have nice eyes or what?!?!?
     

    re: -.1
       I didn't want to get back in this discussion so here I am
    (enter expression of angst, here.)
       I just want some clarification, if you please.
       What catalog are you talking about?  *Frederick's of Hollywood*,
    perhaps (which may or may not interest John?) (snort, snort!)
    If you speak of ME, then I haven't got the slightest idea of what
    you are talking about.  Aside from some VAX MAIL, the only thing
    I have ever sent anyone in this notes files is the tapes I sent
    to Larry Christensen.  Hopefully you mean something else which
    I don't understand.
                                      
    Frederick
    

.78  Cindy

>   I received another interesting piece of mail and...
>   thought of John Mitchell...(;^)
Hmmm, now what could that be? A catalogue of crystals for everyday
applications? A brochure for a course on channelling for fun and profit? 

>   I like my champagne....
>   au natural!
Does that mean you drink in the woods? In the nude? or do you just stay
away from champagne made from artificial grapes?

8')
Jay 

    
    Re.Frederick(s)
    
    Sorry there - I put in the disclaimer of 'total nonsense' at the
    top.  Any relationships to the writings in .78 and actual participants
    in this conference are strictly coincidental (;^).....except for
    John.
    
    Re.80
    
    On mail to JM - You'll just have to wait to find out!  Good guess
    though. 
                               
    Re. Champagne
                           
    Ah, champagne!  'Natural' means that there is no sugar added, which
    makes it *extremely* dry.  My reasonably priced favorite is Korbel
    Natural, from California.  No comment on the rest of the questions!
    
    Cindy  
                           

    Re .81 (Cindy):
    
    >Ah, champagne!  'Natural' means that there is no sugar added, which
    >makes it *extremely* dry.  My reasonably priced favorite is Korbel
    >Natural, from California.  No comment on the rest of the questions!
     
    Which means, of course, on a hot day in the woods, if you decide
    to drink chilled champagne while wearing no clothes, you'd be drinking
    it (au naturel)^3. :-D
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

    re .55   Add another tally to the Libra list.  I also
             have green eyes/cat eyes...
    
    Back to the topic--I was talking to a friend of mine last
    night (she happens to live 2000 miles away) and we went over
    all of the times that we have been able to think of someone
    and have that person call us, all of the times that we will
    be looking at someone and have them turnaround, and so on.
    
    Here is one that is great to do when you are STUCK behind
    a sloooowww car--MAKE them turn off onto another road!  That
    is the best for POSITIVE thinking.
    
    Another friend of mine makes traffic lights change...
    
    Now if I could figure out some way to be able to "talk" to
    these people without a telephone, sure would save long-distance
    bills...
    
    

    RE: -.1
        Yeah, I have a connoisseur's collection of lingerie (most
    of it coming from bedroom-eyed Scorpios!)
      
      
    Frederick
    (with across-the-network-psychic-tongue-in-cheek[-and-other-places])
                                                                       

    Ten days out of the country and I come back to this.  Ta you guys,
    what a way to come back to work!!!!
    
    Yep, another Scorpio Sun, Cancer Rising, Leo Moon and Pluto in Leo
    vvvvoooooommmmmm!!!.  
    
    I love chocolate, love a good dry champers, love this conference,
    love a good looking guy, (whoops wrong conference), and would love
    some of the lingerie that has been *left* at Fredericks!!.
    
    ...dale (who has just been white water rafting twice and looooovvvves
    it - plus a lot of looking across crowded rooms!!!)
    

    re: Dale
      
       I wouldn't know a good dry champer from a bad wet champer but
    I do understand "vvvvoooooommmmmm!!!"...as for the *left over*
    lingerie, it might take some checking and testing to ensure the
    proper fit, but, fortunately for you, I am good at manually dextrous
    things...and to think, this used to be a conference on Psychic
    Phenomena!  Boy! Girl!
       
    Frederick (who appears to have been influenced by Groucho's left-over
    cigars!)
    

    Re .84:
    >           -< is that Frederick's lingerie great, or what? >-
           
    Hmm.  I always thought it was what was inside the lingerie that
    was great. :-D
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

           
>    Hmm.  I always thought it was what was inside the lingerie that
>    was great. :-D
    
     Especially if it drinks champagne 'au natural'... ;-)

						-- Mike

re:last few

You know, with replies like this, it just begs for the next chapter in the 
continuing episode of _Pluto and the Disney Channeler_. 
What material!!

8')
Jay

     
    (As I sit at my terminal wiping the tears from my eyes from laughing 
    so hard.......)
    
    On the continuing saga - go for it!  This might even classify as
    myth-making if I understand my beginner psych reading material 
    correctly.  
    
    Dale - glad you're back!  Your trip sounded wonderful!
    
    Cindy
    (who_will_forgo_sipping_dry_champagne_au_natural_in_the_New_England
    _woods_until_late_spring_1988_for_fear_of_frostbite (:^))

    I'm a virgo also and I run into us all the time. I never knew there
    could be so many people under one sign but I guess it kind of makes
    sense seeing as virgos come about 9 months after that ever so popular
    holiday season. I guess there is a lot mo merrymaking going on:-).
    
    				Geoff

    Thanks all, its great to be back.
     
    Cindy, you are right, its a laugh a minute, I'm just wondering where
    John is with all this lingerie.
    
    Frederick,  your dream with the 38A bra has nothing to do with the 
    lingerie does it?  (No freudien slips (sp) !!!!
    
    *ETHEL* this is for you.  Elaine had dinner with us last night and
    we had a great time, except for the fact that I fell asleep at dinner
    after having only about 4 hours sleep for the past three nights.
    These roadshows are really hard work!!!!
    
    I cannot believe that after 10 days there are so many notes to catch
    up on.  I cannot get into the office any earlier to read them. 
    It will take a while.  Be patient.
    
    Have a great weekend.
    
    ...dale
    

    
    I am a scorpio,or,am i a sagittarius?I was born Nov. 22.My mother
    had to go without Thanksgiving dinner for me.What a sacrifice!
    
    Michael
    
    

    I am an Aries.  Nope, not even a little cuspy.
    
    Marion

    RE: .94
    
    But she still managed to have a turkey!  :-)  ;-)
    
    
    John M.

When we last left our heros, Pluto was trying to get Disney away from the
madness. "But this is better than the premiere episode of Star Trek!"
Disney claimed. "You're a sick man Disney, take two crystals and call me
in the morning, c'mon lets beat it." retorted Pluto.

"Well, what about the cancer Moonbabies!?" asked the channeler, "Do we
leave them behind, in the midst of these mad Scoprios?"  "They're on
their own, there, on their own there." Pluto stuttered as he began losing
it.

As Pluto turned to leave he came face-to-face with the only Capricorn in
the crowd. "Where ya goin big boy? Schtick around and let your friend
have some fun. You don't need to run off. The parties just begun." "I'm a
bullish-moonbaby, a traditional goat with laser eyes. We could have fun
out in the pastures." Pluto dropped like a rock.

Disney saw his chance, and slipped upstairs to scan the crowd. Tauri,
capricons, scorpios-out-the-whazoo, there's gotta be more than this.
"Well, here's another cancer...but I'm marrying a Scorpio." Disney turned
to see where the voice was coming from as the voice continued "There's
not a Scorpio anywhere in sight however"  "I don't know about Pluto, but
I think you have a quelling stare."

"That voice." thought Disney. "I know that voice." It reminded him of an
encounter long ago, at a rock concert. "I met her eyes, we stared a long
time, I laughed, she laughed. Definitely warm fuzzies."

"Here was the rub tho, she was the mother of a friend, and she said I was
a Leo. Well, maybe I'm a leo, but I ain't no liar. At least I think I am
reticent, or just slow. We used to watch the rising sign, not the Sun
sign, the Coke sign next to the Fenway. We giggled like a gaggle of
Virgi, tho I don't think we we're just well-behaved, self-effacing and
modest!  We were young and always talking of grapes."

"I like my champagne au natural!" she used to say. "If you're speaking to
me, then I haven't the slightest idea of what you are talking about." I
always answered. "Hopefully you mean something else which I don't
understand." Those were the days, channelling for fun and profit, being
young and carefree.

I remember a hot day in the woods, while wearing no clothes, we'd be
drinking au natural^3, with tongue in cheek (and other places) it would
happen vvvvoooooommmmmm!!!. We'd be influenced by Groucho's left-over
cigars. All that lingerie and those freudian slips. 

Disney's head was spinning and he was becoming senseless with emotion.
His last thought as he slipped into a trance was; and to think my mother
gave up thanksgiving dinner for me, and ended up with a turkey anyway.

Tune in next time when Disney, while in a mindless trance....
 channels Pluto!

    Great!  (but of course... only another Gemini would truly appreciate
    and understand_:-)

    
    
    Jay, you're a nut! ;^D
    
    t. (the_mad_Scorpion_with_tongue_in_place)
    

    
    
    
    
    
    But a GREAT sense of humor!!!!!
    
    
    
    R

    I'm confused.
    
    It seems to me that many of the correspondents of this notes file
    deserve a more rewarding profession.
    
    It is a pleasure to work at a company with the quality employees
    found here!
    
    
    
    ....Bob

    Freudian shmoidian.....
    
    Its okay for you guys, its Friday, but by the time I read this serious
    art its first thing Monday morning.  IIIII dooooonnn'''ttt waaaant
    tooooo beeeee heeeerre.....on the other hand you have made my day!!!
    
    I hope that the rest of the week is this good.
    
    ....dale

    
    
    Hi John,
    
    But it was the best turkey she ever had!;^)

    	Another Libran with a sensitive and *appreciative* tongue
    	for champagne...  au natural or otherwise!!  (Hmmmmm, I
    	wonder if I meant *me* or the *champagne*...)
    
    	To digress back to the original subject, I've got green
    	eyes that can kill but would rather love...  It's that
    	wild Czech blood coursing through my veins!
    
    	I'm confused about the lingerie -- is Frederick mailing
    	samples to all of us?  Isn't he engaged??  *8-)
    
    	And to think that this is the first time I've read 504.* --
    	I've been missing out, especially on the Disney saga!
    	Good stuff!!!!
    
    					Carla

    re: -.1
         Er, ah, well, you see, I'm *collecting* samples...yeah,
    that's the ticket!  So, Carla, where are yours?  Surely you
    have some!  Gee, you have missed out!  But we Libras will somehow
    manage to balance this all out, never fear.  I, too, have an
    appreciative tongue.  Yeah, that's the ticket!
         No, I be not engaged save to say that all parts of my body
    are engaged one to another.  I will *dutifully* say that my
    "love interest" would not be too willing to have me share the
    engaging with other parts, however. (Maybe you don't like brown
    eyes, anyway.)  Maybe in some other lifetime or in some other
    time.  (Rats, I lose more women this way!)
            
    
    
    Frederick
    

    
    
    Well, I am engaged and I would like to have you  send me a catalog,
    or perhaps you could send me a sample of something to spice up the 
    wedding night.  Perhaps something from your Lazarus collection in 
    "reincarnation blue"???    ;^D
    
    Marion 
    
     

    
    I happened to be in New Jersey over the weekend - went to a mall
    and checked out a Frederick's Of Hollywood shop.
    
    Frederick - is that what your place of residence is beginning to
    look like?!?!
    
    What ever are you doing in the computer industry?
    
    The saga continues.....
    
    Cindy

re: .105
    
    Next time Frederick, remember where you put them!
    
    					Topher

    
    Bob C. - forgot to ask - did you have a good time in Beantown on
    the boat?  Did you manage to find the Combat Zone?
    
    Side story - I used to work in GIA, and there was a fellow from
    Japan who came over for a couple of weeks worth of meetings.  The
    Field Service IS types decided to take him 'out on the town'.  It
    turned out that he was quite conservative - but the FS fellows took
    him downtown to the Combat Zone (in Boston) anyway.
    
    The next morning, the Japanese fellow told my co-worker Meg about
    his evening the night before.  The conversation went like this:
                                                      
    Meg asks, "So did you have a good time last night?"
    JPN fellow, "Oh, Margaret-san, they took me to very bad place."
    Meg replies, "Where did they take you?"
    JPN fellow, "Oh, I think it was War Zone - no Fight Zone..."
    Meg (looking horrified), "The COMBAT ZONE?  They took you to the
    COMBAT ZONE?!?"
    JPN fellow, "Yes - that was it.  Very bad."
         
    I do miss GIA - those were fun times.
                                                  
    Cindy

    Cindy:
    
    	Yes I made it to Beantown for Decworld and had an enjoyable
    time.  I had heard about the combat zone and quite frankly Cindy,
    I was disappointed.  It seemed more like the combat block.  In NY
    we have quite a few neighborhoods like that and we typically stay
    away from them until 5AM.  Then again everything in Boston seemed
    smaller and closed at 1AM.
    
    	Another question that was posed was "If DECworld was held in NYC,
    would anybody notice?"                  
    
    
    ....Bob in NY
    

RE: .110
    
    The Combat Zone ain't what it used to be (or so I am told).  It
    was originally created, quite deliberately, by an act of zoning
    legislation.  The idea was, though prostitution and pornography
    could not be successfully eliminated, they could be segregated,
    thereby keeping the rest of the city "clean".  Only those who
    wanted "it" needed to be exposed to it.  It was never very large
    but it was *very* raw -- from what I saw (casually, in passing,
    and only during the day or early evening, really! :-) much more
    so than, for example, the 42nd Street district in New York when
    I was growing up (i.e., late 60s).
    
    There has been a concerted effort the last few years to get rid
    of the Combat Zone.  This effort has been pushed by a number of
    groups: 1. Those who feel that to strive for less than eradication
    are compromising with sin. 2. Those who feel that though segregation
    may have been basically acceptable, the Combat Zone has really gotten
    out of hand -- this attitude gained much support after the stabbing
    death of a young football star from one of the Universities (sorry
    for the fuzziness of my memory for detail on this). 3. Those who
    believe that if the Combat Zone is erradicated the vice industry
    will spread out mostly into the suburbs where it won't be *Boston's*
    problem.  4. Historic preservationists who don't like the deterioration
    which a number of fine old buildings have undergone after the
    creation of the Zone.  5. The oriental community -- China Town (one
    of the largest in the country, after NY and SF) is right next door.
    They now have a much stronger political voice than they did when
    the Zone was placed on their back doorstep.
    
    The Zone has not yet gone away, but it is noticably smaller and
    tamer than it used to be.  (The topics that end up in DEJAVU never
    fail to astound me).
    
    				Topher

    Baltimore's "Combat Zone" used to be known as the "Block" and 
    existed, I think, more out of the city's exasperation than anything
    else ("they won't go away; we don't like them; but at least we have
    them contained").  Sometime in the 1960's the Block did go away
    or, more probably, the porno district simply decentralized or
    changed commodities.  They probably sell software now ...

    re:  .105
    
    	Gee, Frederick, my preference runs to green eyes in this
    	lifetime, but I know in a past Indian lifetime I was quite
    	partial to brown -- perhaps you peddled slinky hides for
    	all the squaws???  *8-)
    
    	As far as samples of my lingerie go, I don't wear 'em...
    	Yeah, THAT'S the ticket!!  Vive au natural!!!!!!!!!
    
	Your fellow *appreciative* Libran,

					Carla

    re: -.1
        Greetings, Wind-through-Valleys!  Yes, it has been a long
    time since we met at the old wigwam.  Did you enjoy the fine
    pelt garmets I delivered upon you then?  Even then, little boys
    hung around your loosely-worn skirts...I never determined whether
    it was to attempt to gaze into your seductive brown eyes or to seek
    out some of your other natural charms.  It also seemed to me that
    you showed great joys at the medicinal oils which I, as the traveling
    medicine-man, was able to apply to those sacred parts of your 
    sleek, though obviously thirsty, tribal-goddess body.  How you seemed
    to radiate from the sweet nectars which I offered you to drink!
    I, too, was able to soar like an eagle as I applied all the teachings
    of my life in the truest union of the flesh to the spirit in the
    solemn rituals of healing.  Yes, Wind-through-Valleys, there can
    be no doubt that no man ever loved a life as I loved that one, and
    let no mortal being ever cast asunder the exhilaration that we felt
    as we allowed the dreamlike haze of blissful joinings that seemed
    so often to be called upon.  Ah, I can almost feel the turgid swelling
    of all of my senses as I recall the sweet moan-like sounds that
    came from that slender throat, all the while enticing the very gods
    with the ever-so-tender gaze of those long-lash-encircled soft
    brown eyes of yours.  How fortunate for me that you needed healing
    so often.  How popular you were among the braves in the tribe,
    especially during the times you spent lounging in the cool, rich
    waters of the swift-flowing river that passed near the community
    teepee.  Such a sight as few had ever seen!  They said you were
    near to being a chosen one by the goddess of love, and I, as 
    well-respected a healer as I was, would make my peace with all
    by testing your charms to see that that was true.  Yes, Wind-through-
    Valleys, I remember you well, and never shall I forget.
                                                 
    Peaceful-Rising-Bull
      
                     

    Gee guys... this room is getting more crowded by the minute.  Could
    someone open a window or turn down the heat?  
    
    Now... where were we... oh yes,.. past life regression_:-)

    Yes, it's getting crowded in here.  Maybe we should all leave Frederick
    and Carla to themselves... :^)
    
    Elizabeth
    

    re: -.1
       Hey!  That wasn't me!  That was simply an aspect of my 
    Higher Self remembering an aspect of Carla's (What's the symbol
    for innocent grin?)  For all we know, we are all descendants of
    the heat raised by those two. (what's the symbol for puzzled look
    [yeah, sure!]?)  Anyway, this isn't Noah's Ark.
     
    Frederick
    

re:  Frederick!!

	There's definitely some "Rising Bull" going on here!!!
	Except the part, of course, about my sleek tribal-
	goddess body.  I guess some physical characteristics 
	do follow us through all our lives...  *8-)

	Ah, reminiscing can be such an insight...


				Keeping my tomahawk sharp,

				** Wind-Through-Valleys **

    re: .117
    
    	Another example of how our Higher Selves can have
    	*MUCH* more fun than our human selves!!!!!
    
    	Besides, weren't there "Ten Little Indians?"  I
    	wonder who the other eight are...
    
    					Carla
    

     P.S.  Just for the record, the elementary school I
    	   went to is named Indian Trail.

    re: -.1
        ...and for YOUR information, the road I live on (along
    with two other families) is named Trails End.
      
    (by the way, what do you have in mind for the tomahawk?)
      
    Frederick
    

    Ok, so perhaps you two did know each other in a previous life.
    There must be some form of past life regression that will help
    you to explore it.

RE: .119
    
    > Besides, weren't there "Ten Little Indians?" ...
    
    Trivia note -- actually, originally there were "Ten Little Niggers".
    For obvious reason the American Edition of Christy's work was
    modified.
    
    					Topher

    Re .122:
    
    Depends upon whether he's talking about the mystery novel or the
    old song (which scans with "indians" because of the syllables).
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

    	It doesn't really belong here, but considering the
    	wandering we've all done from the subject of the 
    	original base note I don't feel too digressive for 
    	entering this:
    
    	I have had two American Indian past lives that I know
    	of, and know the details only of one.  Wouldn't be 
    	overly surprised, Frederick, if you were a participant
    	somewhere along the line.  Shall we sit on a cowhide
    	in front of a fire and pursue this???
    
    					Carla

    re: -.1
        I have only had past lives related to me by one source,
    actually, (Lazaris, who else---exhasperation grin, here) and
    of the 14 or so lifetimes that I have been informed about,
    none of them involved being an Indian (oh, damn, there go
    my excuses!)  In fact, my earliest entry into the Americas
    was in the late 18th, early 19th century (whereupon I reestablished
    a relationship with the one who this lifetime is my son who in
    that lifetime was a "Black.")
     
         But, in regards to the fireplace, etc., sounds rather
    heart-warming...(I better stop it at that.)
    
         So, maybe I could just re-create my past differently or
    else change my eyes to green or else just say, What the hell?
    and pursue you to the end of my mortality, "pretending" that
    you don't really have a tomahawk?  Maybe we could discuss the 
    possibilities over a bowl of popcorn!
    (Aw right, aw right,...in front of a fire on any kind of fur 
    you have.)
      
    Frederick
    

    
    Jay,
    
    Do you have enough material to work with here yet, or would a few
    more replies be helpful?  (;^)
    
    Cindy

re: .125

	No pretending necessary, the closest thing I have to a
	tomahawk (symbolisms excluded here) is a French knife.
	Now there's no excuse for you not to pursue me to the
	end of your mortality!  What an interesting concept!
	The question is, will your sanity remain intact??  Of
	course, the geographic factor can be always be overcome
	by astral projection.  Smell that popcorn now...

					Carla

    RE: .27

    Hey Carla, why don't you forget about Frederick and chase ME through
    time? After all, I have green eyes... 

    :-) 

    John M. 

.126  Ooooh, I think I have enough. Y'all are an inspiration!


.128
>   RE: .27  <==== 

>   Hey Carla, why don't you forget about Frederick and chase ME through
>   time? After all, I have green eyes... 

Yeah, John, but you're goin back in time.

Jay

    re: .128
    
    	Okay, John, I'll compromise and chase you BOTH through
    	eternity on one condition:  You must keep your green
    	eyes and never, ever challenge or dispute my beliefs.
    	*8-)  Are you up for it????????????
    
    	Oops, guess those were two conditions, weren't they?
    	I'm SOOOOO demanding!
    
    					Carla

    re: .126 (and a bit of a couple more...)
        Actually, your pink looks fine to me.  (Gotta keep a straight
    face, here...)  
        Since John has offered himself, I wonder if it's still popcorn
    we're smelling?
        Cindy obviously wants to instigate something, I wonder what?
    (Jay, it seems you have been deemed "official scribe of across-the-
    room-glancers.")
      
    re: .130
        As I momentarily slipped into a past-life regression, I "remember"
    one of your problems, Wind-through-Valleys, and that is your lack
    of commitment.  Apparently it is not only the male of the species that
    has wandering sexual appetites.  I believe that what I learned in that
    lifetime and in this one is enough to realize that I have risen beyond the
    desire for a simple relationship.  In order to have a "union" with
    me, in order to reach the highest "levels" available to that particular
    union, then (serial, at the very least) monogamy is a requirement.
    While John may indeed be a fine dry wine, I think you would be 
    depriving yourself of what is truly available by drinking a wine
    "before its time."  I suggest either the fine, robust, mature wine
    in my cup or else wait a while for that one.  (*This* cake doesn't
    come that freely!)
        It is funny how the scenario (reality?) has changed, isn't it?
    I thought *I* was doing the chasing...
      
    (I think we better call in the writers...there has been a change
    in this script.)
      
     
    Frederick
    

    re: .131

	While relaxing and intently perusing your note, I was suddenly
	catapulted back to a life we shared in Champagne, France, where
	we were meagerly employed as grape pickers by one of the largest
	champagne houses.  Our eyes first met as we carefully yet surely
	cast aside the undesirable grapes, for it is only the most juicy
	and perfect grapes that are used for such a fine wine.  It is in
	that lifetime that I developed, through your guidance and wisdom,
	the *appreciative tongue* (um... for champagne) that has followed 
	me throughout many lifetimes.  Be it a Rotschild or a chianti, a
	Dom Perignon or a Korbel, you taught me that there is a time and a 
	place for either.  But be assured that I learned how to be devoted 
	to both.  It is impossible for me to be faithrful to just one wine, 
	for as my mood changes so does my insatiable appetite for that 
	lusty glass filled to capacity.

	So, Peaceful-Rising-Bull, remember that it is not necessary to 
	drink a wine before its time, but you can have a young bottle 
	in your cellar and wonder what the taste and smell will be like 
	when it has, indeed, reached its maturity.

					With unsurpassed devotion,

					Wind-Through-Valleys
	

    Well, only  another  gemini  would truly understand the situation our
heros got themselves into.  Pluto lay on the floor, unable to move from a
deep fear of the_mad_Scorpion_with_tongue_in_place.    Disney  meanwhile,
was upstairs in a mindless  trance, thinking thoughts of a long away love
and  musing  on  his  childhood, past  lives  and  how  they  effect  his
present-day view of reality.

    "Freudian shmoidian.....I deserve a more rewarding profession."  "But
I was the best turkey she ever had!    She  was  but another appreciative
tongue for champagne...au natural or otherwise. (Hmmmmm,  I  wonder  if I
meant *me* or the *champagne*...)"
    
    The voice  from  the  past  continued  on  in Disney's head;  "Do you
remember?  We were  young.   I was an Indian Princess, you were a travel-
ling photographer, bilking people with  that  ghost-in-the-picture  scam.
We had such a love for each other."
    
    Disney could remember.  His love for her  was  like no other he could
imagine.  They would have been together except for her father.  He didn't
like Disney, and thought that the princess should marry one  of  her  own
kind;  one with an appreciative toungue and an appreciation for squaws in
slinky hides.  Disney couldn't help thinking is was the wild Csech  blood
coursing through  his  veins.    "Rats!,  I've lost more women that way."
    
    "Well, next time, remember where you  put  them!" 
    Disney woke to find Pluto standing over him.  "C'mon Disney, we gotta
get outta here."
    
    "Wait!" Disney cried, "I have to find her again."
    
    But she  was not to be found.  Disney searched, but the voice  was  a
vague memory.  He knew he would have to chase her though.   He  knew that
this time  he  would  search  the  corners  of  the  universe.  It became
apparant why he had chosen to incarnate into this world at this time.  He
would find her, but  he  feared  he  also would find his nemesis from the
past.  That devil who peddled slinky hides to all the squaws.

    It was a day in  October,  so long ago, that he found the letter that
spelled his doom.

           Greetings, Wind-from-Valhala!
           It  has  been a long time since  we  met  at  the  old
        wigwam.  Did you enjoy the fine loosely-worn  skirts  and
        other natural charms I sent to you.  Your seductive brown
        eyes  radiate  from  the  sweet nectars you drink and the
        healing which I was able to apply to all the teachings of
        my  life  in  the  truest  union of the solemn rituals of
        medicinal oils .  
           Yes there  can  be  no doubt that no mortal being ever
        felt your dream-  like haze or the turgid swelling of the
        sweet  moan-like  sounds  of    the    gods,    with  the
        ever-so-tender  gazes, lounging in a  cool  swift-flowing
        river few have ever seen!  They said you were the goddess
        of love, and I would make my  peace  with  your charms to
        see you forget.  
           Fulla-Bull Rising

    "Come  on  this room is getting more crowded by the  minute.    Could
someone open a window or turn  down  the  heat?   This isn't Noah's Ark."
Pluto needed to get outside into the  fresh  air.  But Disney had an idea
of how he would contact his lost love.
    
    "I'll channel her through you  so  I can talk to her." he told Pluto.
"What  an  interesting concept." said Pluto,  "Will  my  sanity  remain?"
"There's no excuse why it shouldn't" answered Disney, "the popcorn factor
can be overcome by geographic projection.  But,  you're  definitely going
back in time."
     
    So Disney emptied his  bag of crystals on the floor and arranged them
around Pluto.  He placed Pluto in a hypnotic trance and programmed him to
go back to the time where  he  would find his desires.  "Sherman, set the
way-back machine.." oops, wrong show.
    
    Pluto took on a strange glow and his voice softened..
    "What do you have in mind for my sleek tribal-goddess body?" came the
first utterings.  "Wait! You're not  Fulla-Bull!" "Who are you?  Shall we
sit on a cowhide in front of a fire and pursue this?"
    
    Disney knew he  had  her back momentarily.  "Aw right, aw right,...in
front of a fire on any kind of fur you have.  I have brought you back for
a reason and I may  not  be  full of bull, but I can hand you a line with
the best of them.  It's  taken me several life times to find you, and you
won't cast me off like cheap wine again."
    
=========================================================================
Will Pluto keep his sanity?  Will Disney win back  his  lost love or will
he do battle with his arch-nemesis from the past.  Tune in next time to..
                         Across A Crowded Room

    
    	Boy, did that ever feel gooooooooooood!!
    

    
    Well??? Tell me, I'm on the edge of my seat waiting to find out:
    
    Did Pluto keep his sanity? (Did he have it to begin with?)
    
    Did Disney win back his lost love or did he do battle with 
    his arch-nemesis from the past?
    
    -Amy.
    

    Wasn't quite sure where to put this, so here it goes.
    
    I wondered how ya'll coped with your Bicentenery because fever is
    building here.  Mind you with twelve months of celebrations, we
    may find we are fed up to our back teeth by March or April.  
    
    But at the moment Tuesday is the big birthday and we are so looking
    forward to it.  A fellow digit lined up for tickets to stand in
    front of the Opera House in the forecourt (I guess they would be
    considered blue ribbon seats, together with Prince Chuck and Princess
    Dee Dee, Prime Minister and party.)  with 8,000 other excited Aussies.
    
    Free transport all Australia Day, and entertainment (bands, etc)
    all day and evening, the re-enactment of Cook's landing, parade
    of tall ships, etc, etc, finishing with a spectacular fireworks display.
                             
    
    I imagine there won't be a spare metre of parkland around our harbour
    - anywhere - streets are being closed off for public viewing.  
    
    Cindy, Carla, there are sailors everywhere, and I mean everywhere.
    
    The atmosphere is very positive, as opposed to the cars, drivers
    and roads, people are being co-operative, friendly - so far, very
    little agro feeling.
    
    And supermarket shelves are empyting with picnic purchases......
                                                                 
    
    So exciting.
    
    
    

    
    G'day Dale,
    
    To heck with the sailors - what about Mel Gibson and Paul Hogan?!?
    
    Enjoy the parties! (;^)
                      
    Cindy

    Heard somewhere that Mel is back in town.  Talks on new venture.
    Hoges is here for the 200th and Chuck and Dee Dee's Royal Command
    performance.
    
    Patrick Swayze was to be in town for a film, but it has been cancelled.
    Darn, etc, etc.  
    
    
    ...dale
    

    	Dale,
    
    	It wouldn't take much to talk me into Australia, but promise
    	to find me the lead singer from "Crowded House" and I'll be
    	down under in a (kangaroo) hop!!!
    
    						Carla
    

    RE: .139 (Carla)
    
    >...promise to find me the lead singer from "Crowded House" and I'll be
    down under in a (kangaroo) hop!!! <
    
    
    Down under what?   ;-)
    
    John M. 

    	Oops!  The title of this topic threw me for a loop, I meant
    	the lead singer of _Ice House_.  Appropriately enough, their
    	song is called "Crazy."
    
    re: .140 (John M.)
    
    	I'll never tell...  ;*)
    
    						Carla
    

    That's better, I wasn't going to knock your taste, but I agree Iva
    Davies is a dish.  When I did the publicity for Razorback, I gave
    Gregory Harrison to my assistant the night of the Premiere, to 
    look after and babysit Iva and Russell Mulcahy.
     
    Very quiet, and a real sweetie.
                                                   
    Check out the whole album that Crazy is from.
    
    Now to yesterday's birthday.
    
    G'day and Fair Dinkum....
    
    What a day.  The harbour was packed.  Quote from Bondy (Yup, the
    same one from that yacht race)- Newport was never like this.  
    Even the morning of the Sydney to Hobart Yacht Race (fast becoming
    world famous) had nothing on yesterday. 
    
    The fireworks were spectacular.  Some of them were like exploding
    flags and the Harbour Bridge was ablaze with 200 roman candles and
    a 2 minute rain of sparks.  To me they were just the most beautiful
    sight.  
    
    Here's hoping that yesterday helped to make Australians more patriotic
    than before.  We really weren't the best before.
    
    Carla,
    
    If the Royal Concert was broadcast to the States Monday night, Iva
    sang towards the evening.
    
    Here's to the next 200.
    
    ...dale
    

    	So, Dale, made any plans with your Higher Self to incarnate 
    	around Aussie's *300th* birthday celebration???  Sounds like
    	quite a party!  (Louise, this would've been a heckuvan excuse
    	to don khaki, grab a bottle of champagne, and traverse through
    	the outback on a safari!)
    
    						Carla
    

    re: .143
    
    Aaahhhhyup!!
    
    Wouldn't miss it for the world.
    
    Any time y'all ready to come down under and party, let me know.
    
    ...dale
    

    I have an urgent request please.
    
    A fellow Digit, a reader of Dejavu is going to be in the States
    for work next week or so.
    
    Dates are San Fran... 10th Feb, Bedford 13th Feb, and Boston 18th
    Feb.  She is after some good New Age Bookstores please....and leaves
    our time Tuesday 9th Feb.
    
    I hope someone can help.
    
    Many thanks,
    
    ...dale
    

         I can't vouch too much for the (S.F.) Bay Area bookstores;
    there are quite a few around, however.  In my area (1 hour away near
    San Jose) there are maybe a half dozen or so.  Most are tiny (such
    as a small house that has been converted into a store.)  All seem
    to have at least some of everything (music, crystals, and, of course,
    books.)                       
         There is a very tiny one in Los Gatos, a larger one in San
    Jose (Saratoga/Sunnyvale Rd.) and an even bigger one in Palo Alto.
    There is one in Sunnyvale, but I haven't been in it.  There is another
    of "repute" in Menlo Park.  I know that the largest selection of
    New Age music in the Bay Area is in a store in San Francisco.  That
    is pretty much the extent of my knowledge of these "types" of places,
    although I have run into stores that have similar things here and
    there (just not *everything*.)
      
         IF she is doing any "sightseeing", of interest may be the
    ISIS RISING (also known as the ILLUMINARIUM) Art Gallery in 
    Corte Madera (about 15 minutes north of the Golden Gate bridge
    right off Hwy. 101.)  The have some very expensive items that are
    quite lovely...crystals, visionary art, jewelry, etc.  This is
    the gallery that Shirley MacLaine referred to in her movie
    "Out on a Limb."  It is owned by Jach Pursel and Peny.
          Within sight of the shopping center (where the gallery is)
    is Mt. Tamalpais in one direction and San Quentin prison in the other.
                     
          I can try to look in the phone book over the next couple of
    days and see what comes up.
    
    
    Frederick
    

re: < Note 504.145 by SNOC01::MYNOTT >


Pyramid Booktore in Salem, MA is a good new age bookstore. They also have
crystals and a good selection of music. It is probably about an hour from
either Bedford or Boston. I'll try to find the address and phone number tonite.

.145 dale

Pyramid books in Salem, MA. Not exactly close to Bedford (assuming
Bedford MA) but within and hour. Large selection, also does business by
mail, and has a catalogue of gems, books and tapes.

Jay

.147 Now thats synchronicity!

    Rumor has it Unicorn moved to Arlington, but is still on Mass. Ave.
    (a.k.a. "The Main Drag")
    
    A nice one in Boston is Horai-San in Brookline Village, a stone's
    throw from Route 9. They also have a crystal shop around the
    corner. I think there's a "T" (underground) stop right in Brookline
    Village.
    
    --DE
    

Unicorn has moved to Arlington. It's currently located at 1210 Mass. Ave
in Arlington Heights. From Rt.2 take the Park Ave. exit and follow to the
bottom of the hill. Turn right on to Mass. Ave and it will be a quarter
of a mile or so down on th right.

Good reading.

Ted

    I strongly recommend the Dawn Horse Bookstore in the 99 Mt. Auburn St.
    shops in Harvard Square.  The store features the written and spoken
    Teaching of Master Da Avadhoota.  They also have a tremendous
    collection of other spiritual, philosophical, religious, science and
    health texts as well as rare incense, crystals, thangkas and other
    sacred art, and music/meditation tapes. Check it out, I think you'll be
    very impressed. 
                   
             -- Rob
    
    

    Some unknown force has kept me out of Notes for the past day.  I
    would like to thank all of you for your replies to this.
    
    My friend left for the States today, but she has all the info and
    will follow up all your leads.  If this makes it across the line
    it will be a miracle.  It has taken 20 minutes just to get into
    notes, and move along.
    
    Ta again,
    ...dale
    

    re:  Dale
      
         Well?  What did your friend visit in the States that is
    relevant to us DEJAVUers?
      
    Frederick
    

    Here it is, 3pm, and I'm trying to eat my lunch and read notes (after
    having so much trouble gaining access) - let me see....
    
    She attended DEC meetings in Bedford.  Shopped in Boston, visited
    a new age bookshop, (can't remember the name) and came home with
    an audio cassette, which sounds wonderful, also a video of Creative
    Visualisation - unfort its on NTSC system.  We have a multi system
    here at work so we'll have to watch it one Saturday.  A couple of
    books, etc.
    
    But the exciting news is, suddenly its Stuart Wilde time in Australia.
    Perhaps in 89 we'll find the $600 plus to do his Warriors session.
    
    Meantime we are looking at buying some audios of his, and a selection
    of Denise Linn.  There are four of us who get together each week
    so its all a lot of fun.
    
    Got to tell you guys, my tarot cards still keep showing a trip overseas
    for me in Q1/2.......  
    
    Back to my friend.  She got a very small blister on her heel in
    Boston, then went to Chicago to see her sister for 10days.  The
    blister developed into bigtime infection and it was touch and go
    whether she was allowed to fly back or go to hospital.  Back at
    DEC 2 weeks and its still healing.
    
    Sorry, back again.  Two phone calls, and three visitors.
    
    After reading all this waffle, is any of it relevant?
    
    Oh yes, she enjoyed the first part of her trip - Boston, Bedford,
    Salem etc.
    
    Take care
    
    ....dale

    
    Ah, the air is much clearer here.
    
    John, can you locate missing crystals as well as jewelry?  Someone
    lost a couple of crystals at the Halloween party at my house last
    year and any help would be appreciated.
         
    Who was that woman who just slapped you anyway?
    
    Cindy

    
    
    Now this is getting into the realm of the "cosmic"....hay, I just
    had a great idea.  Why don't you call yourself "The Cosmic Anchovy",
    John?  As far as finding lost crystals, I'm the one who lost two
    crystals at the Halloween party.  Actually, I'm pretty sure that
    it was *after* the party that they disappeared.  This might 
    actually be a fun experiment.  Do you want to give it a try John?
    No slaps if you miss - I promise.  Or maybe I have to *promise*
    a slap if you find them!  Yikes, this could get complicated!
    What is your price, anyway? :-)
    
    Carole
    
    

    Re 158 (Carole):
    
    >What is your price, anyway? :-)
    
    Probably a negative pizza. :-P
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

    re:158
    
      HIS PRICE?
    
         two slaps.

Is "negative pizza" where you only have a pan at which to gaze, and you have to 
pretend you had the pizza, and you are, therefore "- a pizza"? 

BTW, John's a vegetarian...HE doesn't even eat anchovies!

    re: .161 (Rere)
    
    >>	"negative pizza"
    
    	How would this affect pizzagasms?!
    
    					Carla
    

    Re .161 (Meredith):
    
>BTW, John's a vegetarian...HE doesn't even eat anchovies!

    Geezt!  I never would have guessed!  :-P
    
    "Negative pizza" is a special form that, when you place it on a
    pizza, the pizza vanishes. ;-)
    
    A negative pizza can be approximated by a just-past-teenager with
    an appetite like a hyena, but the teenager leaves crumbs.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.    

    I'll take an anchovi pizza - hold the pizza!
    
    Marion
    

The effect of negative pizza on pizzagasms is that you have to fake them.

ooooooooooh nooooooooooooo!
;-)

Outta hand,
Meredith

    
    Jay,
    
    Do you have enough material to work with yet?
    
    Cindy

    	But you can't fake a pizzagasm, it's a cosmic law.
        
    	Slipping off an edge,
    
    						Carla
    

RE: .158 (Carole)

    > ...hay, I just
    had a great idea.  Why don't you call yourself "The Cosmic Anchovy",
    John?  <
    
    Done.
    
    > As far as finding lost crystals, I'm the one who lost two
    crystals at the Halloween party.  Actually, I'm pretty sure that
    it was *after* the party that they disappeared.  This might 
    actually be a fun experiment.  Do you want to give it a try John?
    <
    
    I haven't tried to find crystals yet.  In fact, my last excursion
    was a semi-failure.  I was visiting my aunt and my cousin, who plays
    tuba told me that he lost his mouthpiece.  I informed him that I only
    seem to be able to find jewelry, to which he responded "Ah, but
    the mouthpiece is gold-plated!"  So I decided to give it a try.
    
    I had this feeling that it was in his room behind something like
    books, so I checked his bookcase.  After making my find, I proudly
    presented the large, gold-plated mouthpiece to him.  "Thanks," says
    my cousin, "But that's my *trombone* mouthpiece!"  Hellsbells.
    
    As far as your crystals are concerned, I have no unearthly idea
    where they might be.  Check a black purse.
                      
                            
    > What is your price, anyway? :-) <
    
    
    Depends on the service...
    
    
    OK, so now I know what a negative pizza is (thanks, Steve).  Sounds
    like it's best paid for with negative money; something I have a
    lot of.   ;-)
                 
    Now what the heck is a "pizzagasm?"  Is that something YOU get or
    the pizza gets? 
    
    John M.
    
    

>    Now what the heck is a "pizzagasm?"  Is that something YOU get or
>    the pizza gets? 

I have to confess, I made the term up.  (Carla liked it when I told 
her...didn't you, Carla!!)

A pizzagasm is the way your taste buds throb and dance on edge when they get to 
touch that hot, stretchy mozarella and that oh,-so-tangy tomato sauce, ooey 
gooey and dripping.  It is that moment of pure ecstasy, right before you start 
chewing, when you have taken that bite, and it rests on your taste buds, 
titillating and tantalizing.

'Nuff said?
And to think, I can't eat cheese on the McDougall plan.  But there *is* a 
recipe for pizza...

    	John,
    
    	Since there apparently is an absence of pizzagasm knowledge in
    	Seattle, it appears you'll have to venture to Colorado Springs 
    	where Meredith and I have agreed to show you what that cheese
    	and sauce euphoria is all about...  ;-)
    
    						Carla
    

    re: Carla and Meredith West-
     
         I think you've given new meaning to the word "Pizzeria."
    Maybe you could open one up and call it "Pizzeroticas Unlimited."
    I'm willing to bet you'd do a thriving business...(even vegetarians
    have been known to eat meat once in a while.)  You could place
    olives across the moist sea of steamy cheeses, looking at each other,
    tomatoes, gently caressing the tender olives into a frenzy of
    oregano and thyme scents, and for the intellectuals, sage, would
    eminate from the delicately powdered skin of the crust.  This 
    would follow the delicate foreplay used in kneeding and spreading
    of the organ-ically enriched raw dough, upon which the most 
    delectable sauces imaginable would be laid, and thereupon setting
    the proper stage for what undoubtably would be the individual's
    piece de resistance...the topping of their uttermost pleasure.
    After this most appropriate and necessary interval of time, the
    oven would be brought up to just the right temperature and the
    whole ensemble would bubble and throb until its moment of supreme
    readiness.  Hereupon patrons will marvel at its pulcritude and
    those whose libidinous senses remain intack will feast on the
    enormous satisfaction at hand in a rush of earthly and timeless
    releasing of the most fundamental human emotions.  
        No doubt about it, Carla and Meredith will gain a reputation
    that will be unrivaled in the annals of pizza-making history (and
    histrionics.)  
    
        Go for it...and you don't even need anchovies.
    
    
    Frederick
     

    I think I saw a negative pizza Star Trek episode.  It was explained
    that the main ingredient is Anti-Matter.
    
    Bob

    Re .172 (Bob):
    
    No, no.  That's an antipizza.  A negative pizza's more like a Dirac
    hole in a pizzacontinuum (with ground state zero); the result of
    interaction of pizza and negative pizza's nothing more than a possible
    residuum of scattered anchovies.  With an antipizza, the result
    is gamma rays, which are reputed to have strange effects on people
    named David, Bruce, and, er, Robert.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.

    re .172:  (Bob)
    
�        that the main ingredient is Anti-Matter.
    
    Nope!  It's anti-mato sauce.  
    
    btw, a great topping is peppererinos and mushruons.
    
    Anti-pizza usually goes pretty fast, but Uncle Pasta.
    
    	cousin brewce

    RE: .171 (Frederick)
    
    Hahahahaha!  Even an anchovy couldn't top THAT.
    
    But when I get the time, I might try.
    
    
    John M.

.166  Cindy

>   Do you have enough material to work with yet?

Are you kidding??? This note is *ripe* with material, it's time I lack
:-(   I'm workin on it tho!

Jay

    
    This brings new meaning to pizza and beer on Fridays.
    
    I always did wonder why it was that the Field Service IS programmers
    where I used to work never made it back to their desks on Friday 
    afternoons......    (;^)  Or if they did, they usually spent the 
    afternoon grinning.
    
    Cindy 

    RE:  no pizzagasms in Washington State???
    
    Send that man a pizzagasmitron!
    
    
    And while I'm on the subject - Steve K. - If that's what an anti-pizza
    is, then what is an anti-pasto???
    
    Marion

    re: .178 (Marion)
    
    >>	no pizzagasms in Washington State???
    
    	There are, obviously just not in Seattle.  Must have some-
    	thing to do with excess rain putting a damper on potential
    	Pizzagasm Experiences--soggy crusts and things like that...
    
  						Carla
    

    Anyone catch the comic strip "Sherman on the Mount" yesterday
    (it appears in the Boston Globe and I have no idea what other papers).
    
    The first frame shows The Abbot passing an open window, within which
    Sherman (the friendly, rather self-indulgent monk after whom the
    strip is named) lecturing to some of his animal friends.  He is
    saying "...and the Great Wheel of Live includes everything necessary
    for your sustenance and enjoyment...".
    
    The second frame shows The Abbot looking into the window puzzled
    and a bit shocked.  He is saying "Good heavens, Sherman, are you
    teaching them about *Buddhism*?"
    
    The third and last frame has Sherman answering: "Buddhism? ... I'm
    teaching them how to make a *Pizza*!"  And sure enough, we can now
    see the pizza on the table between them.
    
    					Topher

    Topher,
    
    You're asking a serious question in *this* topic???
    
    Hahahahaha!
    
    Maybe it was serendipity instead.
    
    Cindy

RE: .181 (Cindy)
    
    No I wasn't.  Hahahahahah!!!  Ha! :-)
    
    				Topher

    
    Well, OK, as you're racing around on the Wheel Of Life, be sure
    not to get tripped up on a pepperoni.
    
    This is silly....I can't go on....
    
    *thud* *splat*
    
    Cindy

re; Cindy
    
>    *thud* *splat*


oh no, don't tell me you dropped the anchovies...

    Oh you guys!!!
    
    You don't leave *mushroom* for me to write anything, but, oi-live
    to hear your replies, so don't cheese me off!
    
    ...dale (feeling carefree)
    
    

    
    Hallmark Cards has come out with a line of 'pet cards'.  I
    found a really funny one at lunchtime today and wanted to share
    it with all of you....
    
    Cover of card:  "My dog is always so eager to see you....
                     to jump on you and lick you all over...."
    
    Inside of card: "My dog and I are a lot alike."   (;^)

    Hallmark, Cindy???  I've GOT to go check these out!!
    
             Deb
    
    

    re: .186 (Cindy)
    
    	Did you buy it?  ;-D
    
    	C.

    Carla,
    
    But of course!
    
    It even has little paw prints all over the envelope (awwwww!.)  As 
    I was standing at the rack reading through the cards, I picked that 
    one up, read it and started stiffling my giggles.  The lady next to 
    me said "That funny, huh?"  I handed it to her and she started 
    laughing too!  And it turns out she's a Hallmark representative!
                   
    Now I have to figure out who to send it to (heh heh...).  (;^)
    
    Cindy                           

    re -.1
    
    If you had bought more, you could've called for volunteers....
    
    						Don

    Re.-1
    
    Yuk yuk - always a smart guy in every crowded room.....
    
    (;^P  (;^)                                        
    
    Actually, the weather is getting warmer - anyone up for drinking
    champagne au natural in the New England woods?  
                                                    
    Cindy

 Cindy,just before I read your note I was thinking about how much

fun it would be to *SEE* some of the DEJAVU noters.Alas I am shy

and live in Maine. But if you do have a party I will ask my wife

Kathy if she would mind if I went,although I have my doubts about

her reactions to my going au natural and drinking champagne in the

woods,with some friends. ;^)

                       George D. 

    And don't forget the Deep Woods Off.
    
    Actually, a DEJ conf get-together would best be held in Salem, Ma.,
    say near the end of October.
    
    Or, on second thought, as an alternate; a second choice, in the
    woods.  In Summer.  BYOC.  :-)
            
    							Don

    I d'know 'bout anybody else, but I find that I can feel natural
    _while_fully_clothed.  I'm still stark naked underneath it all!
    
    Marion
    

    
    I come originally from New York (State/Upstate) and there used to
    be all sorts of parks around which were used for gatherings (parties,
    family reunions, etc.), and that used to be lots of fun.
    
    Regrettably it will not be possible to have a party at my house
    again, however does anyone know of any parks described above?
    
    Just a thought.  This should probably be moved to a separate topic.
    See you there.
    
    Cindy
    
    PS. Marion - was that you with the Granimal tags attached to your
        clothes the other day?  (;^)

    If this is the wrong place to announce this please tell me I'm lost
    8^)     
    Anyone in the mood for another Colorado springs party? 
    I'm in the mood and more than ready to go and was thinking about
    saturday july 9th as being a good day to hold a barbeque.
    It would be open to all except young children my house is too adult
    oriented and making it child safe would be a real hassle.
    Please send mail NEXUS::GORTMAKER if you are interested.
    
    
    -jerry

     Also posted in mennotes.
    

    re:11
    
    It's better to be looked over than over looked
    
    Mae West
    

    	Or across a crowded airport, right Arthur?  =8*)
    
    						Carla
    

       Well, I waited almost 4 years and nobody else jumped in here,
    so here I am!  
    
        I just snarfed this note!  ;-)
    
    
    (snarf--coined by =wn=ers?--means to unabashedly take for the 
    sake of ego, in this case due to the number reaching 200.)
    Frederick
    

> snarf--coined by =wn=ers?--

  Was that =wn=ers or merely w=n=ers who can't type ? :-)

  Frank