Conference hydra::dejavu

    My feeling is that it is quite practical, and even fortuitous, to
    have a newborn's chart done.  From the chart you can get an idea
    of the kind of "mothering and fathering" that will nourish the child
    and enable him/her to develop a strong self.  It can also, by showing
    the areas of probable talent, show parents what _not_ to insist
    on in the way of education--we've all had experiences of certain
    subjects or learning experiences being forced down our throats 
    by well-meaning parents, primarily because they feel it's a good
    idea.  (The reverse of this can be shown also--areas that would
    never have occurred to a parent, because they themselves have no
    interest or an outright aversion to them.)  And finally, by looking
    at areas of probably toil and struggle, a parent can be know what
    strengthening a child will need to enable him to toil and struggle
    to good purpose, not just flail fruitlessly.
    
    For what it's worth . . .
    
    Marcia

    
    
    I think this will be an excellent gift!  Though the child won't
    be able to appreciate it for a number of years, if the parents
    have some astrological understanding and are open to what the
    chart reading has to say, they can observe how the child's
    personality unfolds and see if it is in line with what the
    chart has to say.
    
    A friend of mine has a chart for her 7 year old daughter.  She
    received the chart when her daughter was about 2 years old, and
    she finds it amazing to see how different aspects outlined in
    the chart are emerging in her daughter as she grows.  She also
    has read different parts of it to her daughter as well.  The
    chart not only discussed personality traits; it also dealt with
    behavioral issues and gave suggestions on possible ways to handle
    them.  An example would be:
    
         Annie may have problems dealing with discipline because of
         a deep need to feel that she is in control of her environment.
         It would be important for her to have her own room, if possible,
         where she can feel that she has some control over some portion
         of her world.
    
    So, my suggestion is to have it done now and the parents can have
    all that much more time to read it, enjoy it, and learn from it.
    
    Good luck,
    
    Carole
    
    

    
    
    Excuse the title in the previous message - it was a slip of the
    fingers!
    
    Carole
    

    
    A chart reading is an excellent idea, just make sure the parents
    will appreciate your efforts.  Alternatives are a computer-generated
    Astrological report, a hand-written report or taped report from
    an Astrologer, or you could also buy a book on Sun signs, that is
    specifically written for very young people, - I've seen a couple
    of these in The House of Zodiac (Framingham).  
    
    Roberto

    If the parents will appreciate the effort, charts can be cast for
    not only the child, but for the father and mother as well.  A synastry
    (astrological study of relationships) can be done for the family
    unit to feel out the qualities of their interactions.  This can,
    in the hands of courageous and enlightened parents, be a wonderful
    thing to have.  Such a proposition should be approached with delicacy,
    however.  People often have very strong ideas of the correct ways
    to interact, desirable traits in their child, desirable traits in
    themselves as parents.  To listen to a synastric analysis of one's
    relationship takes great courage and honesty on one's part, and
    calls for an astrologer skilled not only in the anaylsis technique,
    but also in communications and counselling.  The way one conveys
    the information can be as important as the information itself,
    especially when an important, highly charged relationship is the
    subject.
    
    Marcia

 Can anyone recommend a good source for having an astro chart done?

 Thanks,

	Kris

    What area or town do you live in?  I'm assuming you wouldn't want
    to go too much out of your way.
    
    Marcia

  re: .6    Marcia, I live in Southern New Hampshire.

  Kris

    Since you folks are using the VAX perhapse you could run the astrology
    program that lives in many [GAMES] directories and just have the
    interpretation done at the astrologers .
    
    Paul
    

    Sorry to have been lax, but I haven't made good professional
    connections in NH yet; most of the people I know (and have liked)
    are "in town" (i.e., within 10 miles of Boston).  If you like, I
    can send you the list of names I do know "in town", and you could
    ask any of them for references in the Frozen North.
    
    Marcia

    RE .9
    
    could you point us to a games account that has the astrology program?
    
    Steve

    Well, I have a copy (not in a public area-sorry) and I got mine
    from Bill Keefe, one of the conference members.  I suspect that
    others in the conference have obtained it, too.  If you want to
    forward the birth data (date, time & place) to someone with the
    program, that person can cast the chart and VAXMAIL it to you. 
    Or provide you with a copy of the program so you can cast it yourself.
    
    Marcia

       You can pick a copy of ASTROL.EXE and ASTROL.COM (which I use to 
       run it in BATCH) from my Workstation with the command:

             $ COPY PILGRM::SYS$SYSROOT:[BAHN.COMS]ASTROL.* []*

       But please:

           -  copy it before 8, between 12 and 1, or after 5 (all Eastern 
              Time) ... PILGRM is a VAXstation I

           -  modify ASTROL.COM so that it doesn't MAIL the results to 
              me.

       Terry

ASTROL.EXE is an excellent tool; I just ran my natal chart through and 
everything came to within a minute of arc of other programs I've tested.

Thanks for posting it!  Any chance I could have a look at the source program 
(which, I assume, is in Fortran?).  I'd like a shot a adding progressions and 
perhaps some of the other Arabian Parts as options.

Peter

    
    		re: .13
    
    	once you copy it, can you tell me how to modify it so it doesn't
    get mailed to you?
    
    		wen.