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| 2828.1 |  | COOKIE::FROEHLIN | Let's RAID the Internet! | Wed Mar 05 1997 12:05 | 12 | 
|  |     Steve,
    
    you can edit the properties of a shortcut and set the startup
    directory. For example on my home PC I have a shortcut which starts
    Word under my wifes home directory and one for myself. Unfortunately
    under Windows 95 there's only one ini file which causes some suprises
    when either one of us has changed defaults like page setups.
    
    Btw. I hate VMS users doing "SET DEFAULTs" and glober places allover
    with their files. It's not perfect either...slightly different.
    
    Guenther
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| 2828.2 |  | TARKIN::LIN | Bill Lin | Wed Mar 05 1997 12:16 | 11 | 
|  |     re: STAR::PITCHER
    
    Steve,
    
    These deficiencies may be due to the fact that Windows, Windows 95, and
    Windows NT are really just single-user operating systems.  If you look
    at multi-user implementations, e.g. Citrix Winframe, you'll see that
    they take user "home" directory defaults to a different level than on
    the stock single-user systems.
    
    /Bill
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| 2828.3 |  | skylab.zko.dec.com::FISHER | Gravity: Not just a good idea.  It's the law! | Wed Mar 05 1997 12:41 | 22 | 
|  | Of course for W95 and NT4, the model is supposed to be that you start from your
document (which is already in your home folder or wherever) and click on it
bringing in the correct application.  You create it in the first place using
"new..." from the folder menu.
Ha ha ha.  Yes, that makes sense sometimes, and I actually do it sometimes.  Most
of the time, I am as frustrated as you.  The worst thing (to me) is that Windows
apps seem to be somewhat inconsistent in keeping the context of the previously used
directory.  In other words, it seems to me that sometimes "Save as" presents the
\winword directory as the default to save into and other times it presents the last
directory I saved in.  I'm not sure when it does what (haven't tried to find out
that hard).  Also, I have found setting the default directory for an app very
useful, but I have not again tried that hard.
Finally, I should mention that I am running Word 7 on Windows NT/Alpha and it does
actually present me with \Profiles\fisher\personal (or something like that) as the
default directory to save into.  Now that's more like it.  Don't know about other
apps.
Burns
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| 2828.4 |  | STAR::PITCHER | Steve Pitcher/Pathworks for OpenVMS | Wed Mar 05 1997 14:07 | 16 | 
|  |     Thanks all, for your *quick* responses.  Guess its not just me.
    
    Yes, I've realized that I ought to get into the habit or creating files
    via NEW..., and thereafter just editing them...  but that really
    doesn't work comfortably either.  Pretty ugly starting out with a file
    called NEWFILE.DOC, and immediately having to rename it.... etc.
    
    And yes... I've seen that Word 7 puts files in
    ...\Profiles\username\personal, but that directory tree is under
    \WINDOWS, and I really don't like putting userfiles under \WINDOWS
    either.
    
    At least I have reason to believe that its not just me... I'll have to
    make do as best I can.  Thanks.
    
    -	stp
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| 2828.5 |  | TARKIN::LIN | Bill Lin | Wed Mar 05 1997 14:31 | 9 | 
|  |     re: STAR::PITCHER
    
    Steve,
    
    We'll just have to work harder to get OpenVMS out there for
    everyone to use!  Unfortunately, this is an unpopular view
    for someone in the PCBU.  :-(
    
    /Bill
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| 2828.6 |  | AXEL::FOLEY | http://axel.zko.dec.com | Wed Mar 05 1997 16:45 | 14 | 
|  | 
	You might want to check the latest version of TweakUI. It
	allows one to easily change the location of the
	My Favorites/My Documents folders. I point mine to
	my server-based network drive.
	Or you could just edit the registry entries by hand. But
	TweakUI is easy for the lay person to use.
	This might all be better managed when the new login scripting
	and directory services stuff comes around.
								mike
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| 2828.7 | Digital has it today! | CADSYS::GROSS | The bug stops here | Wed Mar 05 1997 17:18 | 6 | 
|  | Re: .5
If only we could put an Alpha pc on every desktop, we could
offer VMS quite easily.
Dave
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| 2828.8 | sorry for this digression | TARKIN::LIN | Bill Lin | Wed Mar 05 1997 18:00 | 11 | 
|  |     re: .7 by CADSYS::GROSS
    
    >> If only we could put an Alpha pc on every desktop, we could
    >> offer VMS quite easily.
    
    Actually, I have a Celebris XL upgraded with an Alpha powergrade
    sitting idle at the moment.  Unfortunately, I don't know if it
    would be possible to run OpenVMS on it.  At the very least, someone
    will tell me it is "not supported" I expect.
    
    /Bill
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| 2828.9 |  | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Thu Mar 06 1997 10:54 | 5 | 
|  | Right - not supported, won't boot.
You can change the Office default directories within the Office apps.
			Steve
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| 2828.10 |  | TARKIN::LIN | Bill Lin | Thu Mar 06 1997 11:27 | 7 | 
|  |     re: .9 by QUARK::LIONEL
    
    >> Right - not supported, won't boot.
    
    Thanks for the confirmation, Steve.
    
    ;-)
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| 2828.11 | You can, after a fashion | CHEFS::TAYLORM | Mike Taylor @REO, DTN 830-4558 | Thu Mar 20 1997 07:34 | 18 | 
|  |     Re .4:
    
    > And yes... I've seen that Word 7 puts files in
    > ...\Profiles\username\personal, but that directory tree is under
    > \WINDOWS, and I really don't like putting userfiles under \WINDOWS
    > either.
    
    You don't *have* to put user files under \WINDOWS at all.
    
    In Word 7 (and Word 2 and Word 6), go into Tools | Options | File
    Locations, and you can change the default location for user documents -
    use C:\My Documents or similar.
    
    You can do a similar thing in Excel.
    
    Hth
    Mike.
                                   
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