Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

You need HUBwatch V4.0 to manage modules in a DEChubONE MX.

and the appropriate Microcode version for DECConcentrator900MX to support it 

 jean-yves

    The current firmware version (v2.8) for the DECconcentrator 900MX
    does not support the FDDI ports on the high-end docking station.
    This is because the high-end docking station became available too
    late in the firmware release cycle.  However, the next release
    will fully support the high-end docking station.
    
    Dennis

    Thank you for the very quick answers!  I will tell the customer that he
    cannot configure the DECconcentrator 900MX in the DEChub ONE-MX until
    new firmware and a new version of Hubwatch is released.  
    
    Randall Buck 

    We know when V4.0 of HUBwatch is coming.  When is the next firmware
    release coming for the DC900MX?  Is this known as Wave 3?
    
    My customer wnats to use the DC900MX standalone with 6 stations
    connected to it and connecting to the ring using the A/B ports on the
    DEChub ONE-MX.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Mark
    

Expected release is within the next two weeks.

...Roger...

    Realize that what we HAVE been selling is the ability to do that (i.e.
    use the high end docking station, ONEhub etc..)
    
    Are there any other restrictions with V3.1 stuff?  Will EVERYTHING work
    with V4.0 stuff? i.e. DECswitch 9000TX, DECswitch 900EF and
    DECconcentrator?
    
    Thanks,
    j
    

    <------ RE: -1
    John, just for clarifications sake, what did you assume worked
    with what relative to the DECswitch 9000TX, DECswitch 900EF,
    and the high end docking station? Through what literature did
    you come to understand this?
    
    Bob

    The DEChub One - the Singel Slot Chassis Family
    
    Turns DEChub 900 hub modules into full-function, stackable, single-slot
    hub products.
    
    "The DEChub one-MX single slot chassis extends the DECHuB one family by
    offering redundant power capability as well as both FDDI and Ethernet
    support.  ....
    
    "For all the existing and future DECHUB 900 Ethernet modules, network
    connectivity is supported through an AUI port for connecting to a
    standard Ethernet backbone.  FDDI is provided through the two modulear
    PMD ports.  For FDDI applications, the DEChub  ONE-0MX utilizes the
    existing family of FDDI modPMDs (single mode, multimode and UTP, which
    must be ordered separately.."
    
    Order # EC-F4151-42
    ----
    
    AND - it has been presented in ALL THE DAMN TRAINING that it could be
    done that way - i.e. utilize SMF fiber (because of lack of MOD PMDs on
    the EF which KILLS us in large installs!)  And use of a DECswitch 900TX
    for a small workgroup to FDDI server etc.
    
    U c?
    
    Regards,
    j

    
    
         If anyone who attended net academy is selling that it is
    either because they were sleeping or thought they had something
    more important to do during the hub session because the fact that
    only the PEswitch supported it today was covered. All FDDI capable
    modules will support it with the updates and it can be configured
    from the setup port you DO NOT ned HUBwatch.
    
    

    eye-c :)
    
    Of the two bridges/switches, (900EF & 900TX), the only one I 
    know (with wave 2 code), that supported the use of the high
    end docking station FDDI, is the PEswitch 900TX. It of course only
    supports it as A,B ports (until of course the wave 3 release becomes
    available, then all kinds of neat stuff can be done). Also, in the
    DECswitch 900EF release notes for Firmware Version V1.4.0, it does
    state on page 3 that... "Although the DECswitch 900EF module can be
    configured into a DEChub ONE-MX docking station, the FDDI ports on
    this docking station cannot be used for this firmware release."
    So there was some verbage put in the release note stating that the
    900EF with V1.4.0 code could not use the docking station FDDI ports.
    But apparently this did not get communicated cleanly through other 
    channels as you have mentioned John.
    
    Bob

    Bob - unfortunately the reality is that folks get the release notes
    AFTER they buy the product - which means that then folks like me get to
    discover it, clean it up and get a customer angry about not
    understanding BEFORE they buy.
    
    Simply put - we GOTTA communnicate this better (i.e. restrictions etc.)
    to assure that customers KNOW what they're buying and are happy.
    
    (Fortunately my case 2morrow is a PEswitch (grin))
    j

Please note that the attached Sales Update did state that ONLY the PEswitch
    900TX supported the MOD-PMD FDDI ports on the DEChub ONE-MX.  So be
    sure to read the Sales Updates BEFORE claiming that corporate does not
    communicate:
    
Sales Update Volume 27, Issue #3B                         22-FEB-1995       

DEChub ONE-MX Single Slot Hub for DEChub 900 Modules

Contacts:
Americas:  Steve Allen, DTN 226-7223, (508) 486-7223, LKG
           Deborah Flint, DTN 226-7609, (508) 486-7609, LKG
Europe:    Graham Hardy, DTN 830-4241, [44] 1734868711, REO
AP:        Naoki Mizutamari, DTN 699-5583, [81] 353497338, TKO
           Arthur Mak, DTN 662-3531, [852] 8053531, HGO
           Peter Sereda, DTN 631-7288, (416) 730-7288, TRO
           John Koole, DTN 730-5883, [61] 25615883, SNO

HIGHLIGHTS

o  Provides redundant power capability for all existing and planned "rack 
   and stack," standalone DEChub 900 modules
  
o  Supports FDDI ModPMD ports for PEswitch 900TX modules when used in a 
   single slot, rack and stack configuration

PRODUCT DESCRIPTION
    
The DEChub ONE-MX is a flexible single slot hub chasis providing 90 watts of 
power for attached DEChub 900 modules. When two DEChub ONE-MX units are 
configured in a "piggy-back" fashion with a power cable connected between 
them, the new hub offers automatic redundant power failover capability for 
all existing and planned DEChub 900 modules.  

For existing DEChub 900 Ethernet modules, network connectivity is supported 
through an AUI port for connecting to a standard Ethernet backbone as well 
as an out-of-band management port. FDDI, which is currently supported only  
by the PEswitch 900TX, is provided through two modular PMD (Physical Media 
Dependent) ports. For FDDI applications, the DEChub ONE-MX utilizes the 
existing FDDI ModPMD (Modular PMD) ports (Single Mode Fiber, Multi Mode 
Fiber, and UTP cable) used on Digital's GIGAswitch product and 
DECconcentrator 900MX modules. When used with all DEChub 900 modules, the 
DEChub ONE-MX hub provides redundant power for these standalone rack and 
stack applications, meeting the user need for fault tolerance in a stackable 
product.  

Product Positioning

Providing redundant power and FDDI support, the new DEChub ONE-MX is a 
higher-end version of the existing DEChub ONE single slot hub (DEHUA-C*). 

The DEChub ONE-MX (DEF1H) is backwards-compatible with the current DEChub 
ONE. All full-height modules will be able to utilize the new single slot hub 
chasis as well as the redundant power capabilities. A firmware upgrade may 
be needed for the module itself in order to utilize limited HUBwatch 
capabilities. The DECconcentrator 900MX and DECswitch 900EF will be able to 
access the FDDI ports with a firmware upgrade that will be available in May.

FDDI Single Mode Fiber (SMF) is supported through the SMF PMD slots 
(DEFXS-AA), and can be installed in both PMD slots simultaneously. Caution 
must be used when installing the SMF PMD slots to ensure that the fiber does 
not exceed the break radius. Digital recommends that a qualified service 
person perform the installation of all ModPMD slots.  

BENEFITS

o  Provides a redundant power option for standalone DEChub 900 product 
   applications when the fault tolerance power is critical.

o  Allows PEswitch 900TX FDDI ports to be used in a standalone, single slot, 
   rack and stack configuration.

AVAILABILITY AND ORDERING 

The DEChub ONE-MX is available now through Digital; its DECdirect service; 
and its authorized resellers, VARs, OEMs and wholesale distributors. 
 
Discounts: End User = N; OEM = G

Order No.        Description                                      U.S. List

DEF1H-**         DEChub ONE-MX FDDI Single Slot Hub (1)              $  800 
H9519-AA         Redundant Power Hardware Kit                           100 

                 FDDI Modular PMDs for DEChub ONE-MX:
DEFXU-AA         FDDI TP-UTP Modular PMD                                249   
DEFXM-AA         FDDI ANSI MMF (Multi Mode Fiber) PMD                   835 
DEFXS-AA         FDDI SMF PMD                                         3,166 

(1) The last two letters of the order number correspond to the appropriate 
    country specific power requirements: AA = United States, Canada, and 
    Japan; AD = Denmark; AE = United Kingdom; AI = Italy; AK = Switzerland; 
    AT = Israel; AX = Central Europe; AZ = Australia; BJ = India and South 
    Africa.

SERVICES

Digital's DEChub ONE products have a convenient return-to-Digital one-year 
warranty. The user simply returns the product to Digital by mail, and within 
30 days receives a replacement product. Additional years of return-to-
factory service are available. Optionally, onsite services can be purchased 
that provide product replacement within a maximum of 24 hours.

RESOURCES

o  Presales technical support hotline for Digital and partner sales -- 
   1-800-DEC-SALE      
o  DEChub 900 Family brochure -- EC-E2433-42
o  Networked Computing Catalog -- EB-K6341-78