| Title: | Atari ST, TT, & Falcon | 
| Notice: | Please read note 1.0 and its replies before posting! | 
| Moderator: | FUNYET::ANDERSON | 
| Created: | Mon Apr 04 1988 | 
| Last Modified: | Tue May 06 1997 | 
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 | 
| Number of topics: | 1433 | 
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    Hello all,
    
    is there anybody out there, who can tell me where to get a 
    VI-like Editor for the ATARI ST series ?
    VI is the standard UNIX/ULTRIX editor.
    
    Ralf
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| 1166.1 | Dweezl::Atari$Dsk:*vi*.* | SKIVT::HEARN | Time will tell... | Thu Aug 29 1991 08:38 | 13 | 
|     
    Ralf,
    
    	Look in
    
    		Dweezl::Atari$Dsk:*vi*.*	(Dweezl = 17.252)
    
    	elvis.zoo - vi clone
    	vi   .arc - another one
    
    	I've not tried these myself, but they are listed as vi type
    	editors...
    						Rich
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| 1166.2 | some people have funny hobbies. | UKCSSE::KEANE | Fri Aug 30 1991 10:38 | 7 | |
|     
    thats the first time I have ever heard of anyone actually wanting to
    run VI!
    
    Who is a masochist then?  8>))
    
    Pat K.
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| 1166.3 | I tried it - not too bad... :^) | SKIVT::HEARN | Time will tell... | Tue Sep 03 1991 07:28 | 7 | 
|     
    Actually Pat, I did try out 'vi' and it looks quite good (as far as
    'vi' goes  :^)   It "works" quite nicely in the Gulam environment
    I've got set up (kind's one more thing to "fool" your friends into
    thinking you run a 'Unix' box   :^)  :^)  :^)
    
    								Rich
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| 1166.4 | Why don't you try minix then? | UTRTSC::KNOPPERS | Oswald Knoppers | Tue Sep 03 1991 10:57 | 1 | 
| 1166.5 | Not yet... | SKIVT::HEARN | Time will tell... | Wed Sep 04 1991 07:56 | 4 | 
|     
    I've thought about it, but I'm not into laying out the $$$ required
    at this point.  
    
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| 1166.6 | Okay then... | EICMFG::LANGE | Thu Sep 05 1991 05:42 | 38 | |
|     Hello all again,
    
    i had asked for a VI-like Editor for the ST in .0 and got some replies.
    Thank you for the tip where to find ELVIS, Rich!
    The point is, there are some VI-like Clones for the Atari ST, some
    fairly good, but everyone has some specialities:
    
    LV    : This Editor can only handle files with a size no greater than
            32Kb. I think he has no named buffers (this cutting and pasting
            with "ayy for example) and is not able to work on more than one
            file.
    Stevie: Really nice, but no named buffers, and without named buffers no
            macros, poor keymapping, if you are not right on a token and do
            ^] what should jump to the tag you are placed on, it will throw
            bombs.
    Elvis : This one seems to be very good except for two reasons:
            - first there was no termcap file included with the .ARC file,
              therefore some keys produce 'cryptic' strings instead of just
              one character.
            - Why does someone who is able to programm such a complex thing
              like a sophisticated text editor such a thing: Elvis seems
              not to be capable to open more than one temporary file. Elvis
              has named buffers, therefore allowing you to execute a
              buffer, but you will fail trying to put the contents of that
              buffer into another file, because elvis has already one
              temporary file opened and can not open another one. Shit !
    
    So i would like to know wether there are some other VI-Clones around.
    
    I'm not a masochist using VI. I learned to know VI during my diplom
    works that is one year behind now. Of course i had heard all these
    horror stories about it, but when i really used it, i found out, that
    this was the best editor i ever used. When i came to Digital, i felt
    uncomfortable with EDT and EVE. Now i have a VI clone that runs (fairly
    good) with VMS. (If someone is interested in that, please reply).
    
    Ralf
    
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| 1166.7 | VI for VMS - where please? | UPROAR::EVANSG | Gwyn Evans @ IME - Open DECtrade | Tue Sep 10 1991 10:04 | 4 | 
| > Now i have a VI clone that runs (fairly > good) with VMS. (If someone is interested in that, please reply). There are a number of Unix types here that might be interested... | |||||