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| 1637.1 | Zodiac Flea Spray/Cat Killer!!?? | AIMHI::BOYKO |  | Tue Aug 09 1988 13:52 | 18 | 
|  |     Just to let you know --my Siamese cat almost died two years ago
    from Zodiac Flea and Tick Spray!!  I followed the directions on
    the can that stated it was good for kittens and puppies as well.
    My cat in two hours, started foaming at the mouth and vomiting.
    Since it was late at night, I washed him immediately to take the
    spray off.  The next morning, he was still vomiting a little and
    weak.  I brought him to the vet, where they pumped his stomach,
    put an IV on him, and gave him an enema.  He stayed over night
    and I picked him up the next day.  The Vet bill stated poisening!!!
    I wrote a letter to Zodiac and copied all concern on this.  The
    bill was over $100, but the worst thing is that they never 
    answered me and my cat today, has developed a nervous condition
    that they said was from the poisoning!!
    The EPA and Attorney Gen. weren't very much help either!!  I
    just wanted them to label the spray as caution, because cats
    do lap themselves and I really don't think a spray such as
    these should be used!!
    
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| 1637.2 | ... | LAGUNA::RACINE_CH |  | Tue Aug 09 1988 16:39 | 14 | 
|  |     
    
    It's just amazing to me that these people market products that are
    supposed to help make your cats feel more comfortable by killing
    the fleas, but they are a major risk to the cat's life.  The most
    amazing part is that us trusting consumers figure "hey, if it's
    on the shelf it's GOTTA be safe, right?", then our animals end
    up sick, or worse.  Not to mention the huge vet bill I got last
    nite (mine was over $100 too...).  Kelli is worth every penny but that's
    alot of money to have to spend because the spray wasn't labeled with
    any precautionary statement....
                                                           
    At least now we know better.
    Cherie                      
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| 1637.3 | pyrethrums | PARITY::WHALEN | And may the traffic be with you | Tue Aug 09 1988 17:45 | 16 | 
|  |          I only use flea spray which is pyrethrum based. Pyrethrums come
    from chrysanthumum plants, certain varieties, and is supposedly
    toxic to fleas, but inert when it comes to mammals. All the kitties
    I've had in the past 2 years, 12, and my sister's and neighbors
    cats all use it too. Never had any kind of problem, never heard
    of any problem, you get it from your vet. I forget the name, I'll
    look it up, but it comes in a red,black,white container. You can
    get the pump for your pet, and a stronger version for carpets, houses
    etc. 
      I've never bought a store product, and especially wouldn't after
    hearing about the Blockade scandal. I don't trust all "over the
    counter" foods, supplies, flea sprays, etc.      
      There is a note or two in here about Blockade and the incredible
    problems THAT caused.
    
                                       Denise
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| 1637.4 | Always ask your Vet!! | DPDMAI::BALL |  | Wed Aug 10 1988 11:09 | 11 | 
|  |     For this reason I make it a rule NEVER to use anything that doesn't
    come from the Vet's office.  I get all their vitamins, flea shampoos,
    sprays, foggers and carpet dust from him.  I know some pet supply
    stores sell similar items sometimes, but I've found due to the store
    mark-up, things tend to sit there too long and chemicals can change
    properties if they get old.  If you have a vet you can trust
    (and I'm sure you do) make it a rule to get all your supplies from
    there.  We've heard so many bad things from over-the-counter stuff,
    that I'm not willing to take the chance.
    
    Pat
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| 1637.5 | NONE OF THEM ARE COMPLETELY SAFE | IAMOK::GERRY | Home is where the Cat is | Wed Aug 10 1988 11:33 | 26 | 
|  |     Any cat or kitten can have a reaction to any type of flea spray,
    even the stuff you get from the vet.  The stuff from the vet might
    be a little safer, but none of these things are completely safe.
     
    
    Take it from one who knows, I used Mycodex with Pyrethins from the
    vets several years ago to wash a 12 week old kitten that  had a
    flea problem.  Within 10 minutes of the bath, the kitten was unable
    to walk or stand up, her eyes were dialated and she was having a
    terrible time breathing.  I wrapped her in a towel and drove
    immediately to the vet.  She died in my arms in the car on the way.
    
    
    To some cats, any of these things can be deadly.  Always use them
    with caution, and it's not a bad idea to have the antidote around
    just in case.  
    
    Persians and Himalayans seem to be especially seciptible to reactions,
    in fact, many over the counter products tell you not to use them
    on Persians.
    
    Glad everything worked out alright for your kitty.  Thanks for putting
    in this warning.
    
    cin
    
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| 1637.6 | VetKem | PARITY::WHALEN | And may the traffic be with you | Wed Aug 10 1988 16:59 | 2 | 
|  |     re: 3   The product I use, in case anyone is interested is
    Vet Kem flea products available only through vets.
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| 1637.7 | BBB | MYVAX::LUBY | love them furry terrorists | Mon Aug 15 1988 09:34 | 14 | 
|  |     
    
    	Why don't you folks with the problems contact the Better
    	Business Bureau?  I've done that before and you are at least
    	guaranteed to get a reply.... but they may deny the charges,
    	at which point you can take them to court if you so choose.  
    	For me, I decided against court since I only lost $45 and learned
    	a good lesson (never buy anything over the phone).  But for
    	$100 and/or injury to my cat I would definately take them	
    	to court if it came down to that.  Chances are the flea companies
    	will put a warning on their labels rather than deal with the
    	bad rep that may arise.
    	
    	Karen
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