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| 1066.1 | Where are you? | FIDDLE::HTAYLOR | Cat lovers are a special breed | Wed Jan 27 1988 08:56 | 5 | 
|  |     mark,
    
    Where are you located?  I know of a barn that may need another cat.
    
    Holly
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| 1066.3 | Shelter in Framingham | MANANA::FISCHER |  | Wed Jan 27 1988 12:23 | 15 | 
|  |     Mark,
    
    According to your ELF registration, you work in Littleton.  If you
    don't live too far from Framingham, you could take Alice there,
    where there is a no-kill shelter.  There is some information about
    this shelter in FELINE, and I am sure someone could point you to
    the notes.
    
    I don't know of any other no-kill shelters in our area.  Could some-
    one enter a reply indicating whether and where there are any?
    
    Thank you.
    
    Cindy
         
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| 1066.4 | Sterling | DISSRV::HTAYLOR | Cat lovers are a special breed | Wed Jan 27 1988 12:52 | 4 | 
|  |     the Sterling Animal shelter is also a no kill shelter.  I would
    rather see Alice go to a shelter than to a Barn, anyway.
    
    Holly
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| 1066.5 | Sterling Animal Shelter - Just off Rt 190 | DISSRV::GERRY | Go ahead, make me PURRR... | Wed Jan 27 1988 13:02 | 16 | 
|  |     I second the Sterling Animal Shelter.  
    
    They do charge you a small fee to leave the cat, $30. more or less
    I think dependent on if the cat is fixed or not.
    
    The cats there are treated wonderfully.  They are clean and well
    cared for.  They are kept in cages for a couple of days while they
    acclimate themselves, then are free to roam around a large room
    filled with toys, sleeping spaces etc.  The dogs and other animals
    are kept separately.
    
    Please take the cat to the shelter.....PLEASE!!!
    
    purrs
    cin
    
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| 1066.6 | Pepperel Animal Shelter | HPSCAD::KNEWTON |  | Wed Jan 27 1988 13:09 | 6 | 
|  |     The Pepperal Animal Shelter is also a no-kill shelter.  When I had
    to leave my kitty there it cost $25.00.  The $25.00, I believe is
    a donation which you're required to pay.  I am sure, though, that
    you could write it off on your taxes as a donation.
    
    Kathy
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| 1066.7 | NO,NO | AIMHI::OFFEN |  | Wed Jan 27 1988 15:05 | 7 | 
|  |     Please don't just take her in to have her put to sleep.  You have
    had Alice for a while and if she has been taking pieces out of you
    humans this long, you must have patience and tolerance.  Just have
    a little more and bring her to a no-kill shelter.
    
    Sandi
    
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| 1066.8 | Alice will be spared! | NETMAN::SEGER | this space intentionally left blank | Wed Jan 27 1988 15:53 | 15 | 
|  | Thanks for all the replies.  I will be more than happy to take Alice to a 
no-kill shelter.  I had no idea they even existed!  Just out of curiosity,
if Alice is not suitable for a pet (which believe me, she isn't), does that
mean they'll simply keep here forever?
an earlier note asked my where I live - I'm in Harvard, Mass.
re: her better off in a shelter than a barn - I think she'd be thrilled to be
in a barn and have fresh meat every day.  in the summers she spends HOURS just
waiting for a mouse, mole, squirrel, etc.
I'm really glad I put this note in here so that I can at least find a home for
her.
-mark
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| 1066.9 |  | CIRCUS::KOLLING | Karen, Sweetie, Holly; in Calif. | Wed Jan 27 1988 16:10 | 9 | 
|  |     Re: .8
    
    A no-kill shelter I know about (in Chicago) will keep an "unadoptable"
    cat forever.  It isn't clear Alice is unsuitable as a pet, however.
    She might have some medical problem that's making her irritable,
    and so forth, and she's probably very insecure given the current
    state of things.  Somewhere back in this file is a note full of stories
    about "unadoptable" cats who turned into wonderful pusses.
    
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| 1066.10 | barns | 29067::M_HOEPNER |  | Wed Jan 27 1988 17:06 | 6 | 
|  |     Being a barn cat is not the worst thing that can happen to a cat.
    Over the years I've had MANY barn cats.  They were cared for better
    than a lot of children.  I know many people with barn cats that
    are vaccinated, fed well, cared for ...
    
    Mary Jo and Sarah-barn-cat-every-chance-she-gets
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| 1066.11 | there is no such thing as a NOKILL shelter! | NETMAN::SEGER | this space intentionally left blank | Thu Jan 28 1988 12:11 | 19 | 
|  | I hate to burst any one's bubbles, but I just called the Sterling Shelter and
was told there is no such thing as a no kill shelter!  Quite frankly I wasn't
surprises.
What they told me is that for a $35 donation there will at least try to place
Alice and will use that money to feed and care for her BUT when the money runs
out (which only takes 2-3 weeks), they will call me and see if I want to donate
some more to keep her fed, kind of like a nursing home.  If not, they'll have 
her put to sleep.
I was also told that they will not take pets that they don't feel are adoptable.
Although Alice can be quite ferocious, she can also be quite gentle when SHE
wants to be.
So, my plans are to keep looking over the next couple of days and I will at 
least send her to such a shelter to at least give her a chance, but I'm not
about to spend an average of $15/week forever...
-mark
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| 1066.12 | Happy barn cats | ROLL::PARSONS |  | Thu Jan 28 1988 12:28 | 21 | 
|  |     
    	re.10
    
    	I agree, we have 2 barn cats and 8 house cats. The barn cats
    seem to be very happy one is an excellent hunter. During this cold
    weather we have a heat lamp on with a wooden box with hay in it
    under the lamp and they curl up in there and feel nice and warm.
    I have to admit though that I enjoy the house cats better, because
    I can be with them more, but I don't think the barn cats would like
    it in the house.
    	
    	A word of caution on the shelters, I believe it is the Pepperal
    one that I went to once we had a stray cat that was fighting with
    our barn cats. So we took him to the shelter in Pepperal, they said
    that they didn't keep older cats very long and did put them to sleep
    We left the cat and got half-way home and went back to get him,
    as we didn't feel anyone would want an older male cat that looked
    like he'd been quite a few fights. Good luck I hope Alice finds
    a home!
    
    	Becky
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| 1066.13 |  | CIRCUS::KOLLING | Karen, Sweetie, Holly; in Calif. | Thu Jan 28 1988 14:36 | 7 | 
|  | 
    Re: .11
    
    There _are_ no-kill shelters.  The Tree House Animal Shelter in
    Chicago is one such.  Once they accept a cat, it is guaranteed care
    unless it is beyond help medically.
    
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| 1066.14 | Can you wait till Monday for an Answer? | AIMHI::UPTON |  | Thu Jan 28 1988 15:35 | 15 | 
|  |     
    
    	Can you keep Alice till Monday?  I might have someone who offered
    to take a friends cat to use as a Barn Cat, but the particular cat
    I wanted to give away was a indoor only cat.  The problem is the
    folks who might take the cat are away till Monday and I can't contact
    them.  Please give us time to find Alice a home.  These folks live
    in Fitchburg so it might work out for you both.
    
    	Will reply Monday wih a definie yes or no.....
    
    	Until then
    
    	Dee
    
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| 1066.15 | spayed? | AIMHI::UPTON |  | Thu Jan 28 1988 15:55 | 9 | 
|  |     
    	RE: 14
    
    	I DID contact the people who are interested in Alice, they
    have one question - has she been spayed?  If NOT they are not
    interested if YES - she's got a home.  Please reply....
    
    	-dee
    
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| 1066.17 |  | NETMAN::SEGER | this space intentionally left blank | Fri Jan 29 1988 08:20 | 15 | 
|  | Alice is indeed spayed, or at least that's what we think.  When we first got her
several years ago we talked to our neighbor (who runs the animal shelter in
Harvard and no, she can't take Alice due to overcrowding).  She kept Alice for 
a couple of weeks when we went away on vacation and she felt that since none of
her cats showed any interest that she MUST be spayed.  She also felt that 
although we could get her spayed again (sort of), it wasn't fair to the car to
go through the unnecessary surgery, so we left her as is.  She hasn't gotten
pregnant in the last 2-1/2 years, so I assume all is kosher.
Re: -2
I'll be glad to keep her a little longer and I'll send you some mail to work out
the logistics..
-mark
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| 1066.18 | HORRAY!! | DISSRV::HTAYLOR | Cat lovers are a special breed | Fri Jan 29 1988 08:24 | 4 | 
|  |     HORRAY!!!!!  It looks like Alice may have a home because of her
    wonderful feline friends!!
    
    Holly
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| 1066.19 | It's a GO! | AIMHI::UPTON |  | Fri Jan 29 1988 09:40 | 14 | 
|  |     
    
    	Well Feline Friends - we got Alice a home.  Mark will take
    her tomorrow to her new home (Barn) in Fitchburg.  
    
    	I can't believe the personal mail I got offering money to
    have her spayed if she was not.  You folks are too much.
    
    	Well.....we did it AGAIN!
    
    	Gosh - this makes my week!
    
    	-Dee
    
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| 1066.20 |  | CIRCUS::KOLLING | Karen, Sweetie, Holly; in Calif. | Fri Jan 29 1988 13:47 | 2 | 
|  |     Hurray for Alice and her friends and a big thank you to Mark for
    hanging in there until she had a good place to go.
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| 1066.21 | off to Fitchburg! | NETMAN::SEGER | this space intentionally left blank | Fri Jan 29 1988 16:48 | 5 | 
|  | I'm bringing her to her new home tomorrow.  It's a farm in Fitchburg and there's
already another cat there for her to make pals with.  I'll let you know how it
works out...
-mark
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| 1066.22 | the journey's end | NETMAN::SEGER | this space intentionally left blank | Mon Feb 01 1988 08:16 | 7 | 
|  | Well, I delivered Alice on Saturday.  We brought her down to the barn and 
although she didn't want to get out of her box at first, once she did she went
off exploring and I haven't seen her since.
So it looks like another happy ending.  Thanks to everyone...
-mark
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| 1066.23 | worrywart | CIRCUS::KOLLING | Karen, Sweetie, Holly; in Calif. | Mon Feb 01 1988 22:03 | 4 | 
|  |     Dee, could we have an update on Alice from her new folks?  I have
    the small worry that she just wandered off completely lost when
    she was released at the barn....
    
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| 1066.24 | Alice is O.K. | AIMHI::UPTON |  | Tue Feb 02 1988 10:03 | 19 | 
|  |     
    
    	Karen-
    
    	I spoke to the new owners and Alice was doing good so far.
    	She bolted out of the barn (why he didn't lock her in there
    	for the day I don't know).  But she has come back and is
    	eating.  I'm sure for Alice it is very traumatic, but hopefully
    	in time she will adjust.  The "other" cat that lives at the
    	barn did not seem upset with having her there.
    
    	I know it is not the most ideal situation, but it was the only
    	alternative at the time.  Well let you know if anything new
    	happens.
    
    	Thanks for caring to ask.
    
    	-Dee
    
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| 1066.25 | Bravo! | WLDWST::WASH | Enjoying the experience | Wed Feb 03 1988 08:44 | 10 | 
|  |     I've really enjoyed reading thru the chronology of this topic;
    congratulations and appreciation to all of you who contributed
    to Mark's solution - especially you, Dee. It is great "witnessing"
    such concerted effort to bring continued good life to one of our
    feline friends - makes this conference all the more worthwhile.
    
    As for Alice - knowing the adaptable nature of cats - she is probably
    just out there continuing her adventure in Wonderland.
    
                                                         Marvin
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