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    Don't let the door hit you in the arse, Patsy.

        > What do you think of that?

    	Yippee!

    > What do you think of her career?

    	Same as I think of Bill Clinton's career.

    > What do you think of her?

    	Total sack of donkey feces.

    > Who will benefit from her decision?

    	Everyone.

    -b

    
    <-- I thought you were too busy to note.
    
    

    But not too busy to gloat. ;-)

    I think her district was reported to be the most liberal and Democratic
    in Colorado.  Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I think it is the
    Boulder area.  Of course it is liberal and Democratic, being made up of
    students who have not earned a paycheck and PAID TAXES and professors,
    who live in the ivory halls of academia and suck off the government tit
    for their paycheck.  (University of Colorado)

    
    Denver area...
    
    and... does anyone know if she cried during the announcement??
    

    She laughed and smiled. /hth

    She talked mostly about going out at the top and the fact that Ollie
    North did not like her.

    
    > I thought you were too busy to note.
    
    I've been keeping an eye on note 595, since I wanted
    to see what everyone had to say about my parting notes to
    Mr. Topaz. I've been doing a set-seen whenever I open the
    conference; but as you know, when you open a conference,
    notes displays the first unseen message. It happened to
    be .0 in this thread, and being about {PUKE GAG CRINGE}
    Patsy, I just couldn't resist.
    
    -b

[Don't anybody tell Phil that Brian said donkey feces.]

I saw Patsy on the Today show (yesterday? today?). I could only describe
her interview voice as "gurgling". Everytime she responded to a question,
the answer "gurgled" out as if she was half talking and half laughing.

I'd find that hard to put up with over a period of time.

    
    
    So Jack, I guess I'll take back the "Talking Patsy Schroeder Doll" that
    I got you your Christmas.  It does all of the facial contortions as
    well.
    
    Mike

    
    
    Yes, but, does she cry????
    

    
    No, just whines. I think you call it a whines up doll.
    
    -b

    
    
    Shaddup, you dumb polack......

    
    
     You obviously don't get the conotation, Mike...
    
    Oh well... maybe the news never reached Merryland...
    
    

    
    I got it... it was in reference to what she said about Newt
    after the NY Post "Cry Baby" article...
    
    -b

    
      CSPAN has been doing a series on the 3-400 ex-Congresspeople and
     ex-Senators wandering around the good old US of A.  Many from both
     parties, all over the political spectrum.  I've heard a few of the
     interviews and it was filled with quotes like, "the best thing I
     ever did was leave", "gee, you mean, I get a life to live ?" and
     "what a relief it is when you stop !"  Whether retired or defeated,
     I guess I've never heard a happier bunch, and I bet Pat will be the
     same way.  Her district will elect some other clueless liberal, so
     it isn't a desertion of her cause.  Twenty+ years is enough of this.
    
      Watching the 104th, it is not surprising to me to see so many
     leaving voluntarily, and of course in 96, many will be defeated.
     Good !  Turnover is good for everybody, including the politicians.
    
      bb

Colorado's loss is the countries gain :-)

Now, if lady fienstein(sp?) would take this opportunity to change carreer paths
it would be a happy day indeed ...

Doug.

    I thought the crying joke was in reference to her crying when she
    decided against running for president.
    
                                  Steve J.

    
    
    .19 I thought that was the reference too.
        
    and if it was suppose to demean her its poorly targetted.
    
    

>    Don't let the door hit you in the arse, Patsy.

That about sums it up.

Any comments on the slow break up of the Democrats? How many defections are
we up to now? It's an interesting phenomenon... they don't like being
minority? They sense a shift in the political winds, and want out while the
outtin's good? Rats/sinking ship? The most ultra of the ultra-libs are
leaving in droves.

To be fair, I heard 5 Repubs are quitting, too.

    bb
    
    I caught a clip on C-Span where Patsy said something like "I just
    realized I'd spent my entire adult life in public service".
    
    Duh, hello, anybody home, Pat?  Surprise, surprise.  Don't let us
    keep you!!
    
    

    
      Two more Republican senators (Simpson - Wy, and Hatefield - Or) are
     calling it quites - that's 12 of the 33, 8 Democrats, 4 Republicans,
     plus the Packwood seat.  Another Democrat from Louisiana, the fifth,
     switched.  In related news, Joe Moakley will announce today that he
     WILL seek re-election, despite his very bad health (he is 68).
     Reportedly his wife urged him to run, because she fears he would die
     if he left the invigoration he gets from the House (!!!)
    
      bb

    Has it ever occurred to you people, in your bloodlust, that these
    congresscritters are quitting because they can't stand to be associated
    with the criminal destruction of the 'Murican system that is now being
    perpetrated on us all?
    
    I thought not.

    
    
    	that was poetic Mr. Binder.....and slightly humorous....:)
    
    
    

    Absolutely right Dick. Congress is a den of thieves. Many who have
    devoted their lives to it are sickened by what they see. There are many
    more defections to come IMO.

    Well the 104th is an improvement on the recent dens of thieves...

 ZZ    with the criminal destruction of the 'Murican system that is now being
 ZZ    perpetrated on us all?
    
    Dick, years ago I predicted the fall and destruction of Social Security
    and Medicare.  As far as tax breaks to the rich, that money was
    absconded in 1992 so what specifically are you addressing above?

    OOHHH...I get it.  Patsy Schroeder being the champion of abotion rights
    and all that right??

>>    As far as tax breaks to the rich, that money was
>>    absconded in 1992 so what specifically are you addressing above?

     abscond  intr v. To leave quickly and secretly and hide, often to
                      avoid arrest or prosecution.

     hth, she said in a whimsical fashion.

    .29
    
    Keep talking to yourself, Meaty.  Lord knows nobody else is listening.

    
    I move from Ohio and Howie Metzenbaum quits.
    I move into Colorado and Patsy bags it.
    Not a bad record!!
    
    Any other states I need to clean up???
    
    
    re.24    seek professional help....

    ooops.  sorry!

    .32
    
    > seek professional help....
    
    Sorry, I already have a brain.  I don't need to buy one.  I'd sell you
    half of mine, except you wouldn't know what to do with it.

    
    > I move from Ohio and Howie Metzenbaum quits.
    > I move into Colorado and Patsy bags it.
    
    Please move to Ma. ASAP.

    re.34
    
    I would probably have in studied under a microscope

    Mass.
    
    never, no way, can't happen, good luck, too dangerous, not a chance...
    you're on your own! 
    
    BUT WAIT, coming soon at checkout counters around the nation, for
    $39.95 (cash check or money order, credit cards accepted) the OMUOSPC,
    that's the Orkin Man Upgrade Option Self Paced Course, explaining how to
    move from state to state, do an Orkin man impression and rid yourselves
    of those pesky elected liberal congress caca-roaches. Watch for it
    soon!
    
    besides, Fat Boys liver will give out soon thus eliminating the 
    problem. This way I don't waste a move.

    
      And there are 14 House members so far not seeking re-election, but
     3 of those are going after newly vacant Senate seats.  More coming
     in both parties, I bet.
    
      bb

    .34
    Dick, re:
    
    Cerebrum non habet.

    re.32
    
     Please move to Michigan we got two libs to get rid of Bonior & Levin
    
    Dennis

    move to mARYLAND...the most liberal state next to Mass.
    

>    move to mARYLAND...the most liberal state next to Mass.

Explain Spiro.

That's easy. Spiro was a pathological crook.

 but he was not a nattering nabob of negativism.

But he was a _conservative_ pathological crook.  If Maryland is so liberal,
how did Spiro get elected?

He lied.

    .39
    
    > Cerebrum non habet.
    
    Idem qui non habet?  Me scilicet non attingebas, quia "habet" loco
    "habes" usus eras.  Si eruditus apparere uelis, te correctus esse opus
    est.
    
    And since I seriously doubt that you have the foggiest notion what that
    says, here it is in English:
    
    "Who doesn't have one?  You were obviously not referring to me, because
    you used 'habet' instead of 'habes.'  If you'd like to look erudite, you
    gotta get it right."

    
    re: .24
    
    >I thought not.
    
    I rather doubt it Dick... If you haven't realized that to be in
    Washington (after the initial idealistic period that is), is to
    gain/maintain/wield power, then you need those rose-colored glasses 
    polished up...
    
     *My* take is that, since the power base is being eroded, they gain
    nothing by staying. 
    
     I would like to join you in thinking that your notion is the correct
    one, but my cynicism beat you to it.
    

    Spiro Agnew was elected County Executive in Baltimore County MD in 1962
    on a eductaion theme.  He then ran for governor in 1966 and won since
    the Democratic Partyu split their ticket between perrenial runer/loser
    George Mahoney and up and coming Marvin Mandel.  He then was nominated
    as VP in 68, allowing crooked Marvin to take his place.  MD hasn't seen
    a republican governor since.
    
    BTW, Marvin was guilty but Spiro took kickback money from developers
    which he eventually got nailed for in the second administration of
    tricky dicky...talk about birds of a feather

    
      Latest announcement is that longtime Democratic Congressman
     Kweisi Mfume will not seek re-election, although his safe seat
     will obviously elect another black liberal Democrat.  He is
     leaving to chair the NAACP and try to clean up the mess left
     by the Chavez scandals.  Mfume is or was chairman of the
     Congressional Black Caucus.
    
      bb

Cesar Chavez was in the NAACP?

     
    | Latest announcement is that longtime Democratic Congressman
    | Kweisi Mfume will not seek re-election, although his safe seat
    | will obviously elect another black liberal Democrat.  He is
    | leaving to chair the NAACP and try to clean up the mess left
    | by the Chavez scandals.  Mfume is or was chairman of the
    | Congressional Black Caucus.
    
    an excellent choice. hopefully naacp will get back on track
    as a great organization.
    

Z    an excellent choice. hopefully naacp will get back on track
Z    as a great organization.
    
    Agreed.  The man is articulate and well known.  However, Mfume was also
    a strong ally in Congress for the NAALCP.  It seems if the NAALCP wants
    to have any clout they need to have stronger friends in the House and
    Senate.
    
    -Jack

    
    Oh stop with the PC ass kissing! He's a liberal democrat, he is
    therefore _the enemy_, and good riddance! See ya!!!

    -b

    Of course good riddance, but you'll be surprised to know I also like
    Barney Frank who also happens to be a liberal democrat.  I disagree
    with alot he says but I enjoy listening to him.
    
    The reason I like Mfume is because he is one of the few who really
    believes what he's saying.  I actually believe the same about Schroeder
    and at least admire her for that...misguided and ignorant though she
    may be.  Most of the rest of them are phonies to the core.
    
    -Jack

| <<< Note 604.55 by MKOTS3::JMARTIN "I press on toward the goal" >>>

| The reason I like Mfume is because he is one of the few who really
| believes what he's saying.  I actually believe the same about Schroeder
| and at least admire her for that...misguided and ignorant though she
| may be.  Most of the rest of them are phonies to the core.

	Jack, at first I thought I wouldn't be able to understand this. But
your own notes cleared that right up. :-)


Glen

    
    I like Barney Frank too, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't do the
    Watusi in my BVDs if he announced he was quitting.
    
    -b

    Okay, point taken! :-)

    
      Senior Texas Republican Jack Fields is calling it quits.  Safely
     Republican district, but at least the denizens will now be treated
     to a thumping contest in the GOP primaries.
    
      He just got tired of it all.
    
      bb

    Something is about to happen.  Jungle drums says it'll be sometime
    in february when the house of cards falls.  

    
      And in Chicago, the son of the Reverend Jesse Jackson, Jesse
     Jackson Junior (3J) won the seat vacated by Mel Reynolds.
    
      bb

	Andy, what do you know of the candidate that makes you want to barf?

    Glen,
    
    The apple never falls too far from the trees.  As far as dad goes, I
    find him to be a disingenuous liar.  MLK did NOT like him...period,
    which further shows the disconnect going on in the civil rights
    movement today as opposed to the 60's.
    
    While I'm on the subject, I found out last evening that Kwesi MFume,
    the guy I said I disagreed with but respected him...well, I found out
    this guy has five children from five different women.  Is this the
    case?  If so...Is this the best the NAACP could do?  Hell of a role
    model!
    
    -Jack

    
    >this guy has five children from five different women.
    
    ...so, obviously, he has no further value.  Off with his head!!
    

    No but the man has a barnyard mentality and is a big part of the
    problem.  Apparently his appendage takes precedent over ethics!
    
    -Jack

| <<< Note 604.64 by MKOTS3::JMARTIN "I press on toward the goal" >>>


| The apple never falls too far from the trees.  

	That is so damn stupid, Jack...even for you! Let's not base our
thoughts about someone on their own merits or lack there of, let's base it on
the parents, or where they went to school, or where they live, etc.... 



Glen

Maybe he's changed his ways.  Don't you believe in repentance?

    
    He believes in God, and he believes that God believes in Jack
    (that's him).
    

Z    That is so damn stupid, Jack...even for you! Let's not base our
Z    thoughts about someone on their own merits or lack there of, let's base
Z    it on the parents, or where they went to school, or where they live, etc.... 
    
    I will concede this point since I made a hasty generalization. 
    However, since dad was standing behind him with a chit eating grin on
    his face, I can only assume he will actually pull the strings and the
    son will be a puppet.
    
    -Jack

I think most fathers would look happy if their child had just been elected to
Congress.

    Sure I believe in repentance; but the fact still remains that he
    fathered 5 illigit kids and I'm telling you this is a trend toward the
    growth of welfare spreading throughout America.  Luckily he has the
    resource to monitarily support these kids; however, as pres of the
    NAACLP, he is still a role model.  I would like to hear him extol the
    virtues of the opposite behavior he possessed publicly.
    
    -Jack

>I think most fathers would look happy if their child had just been elected to
>Congress.

    Wasn't it Twain that said "Every now and then an innocent man is sent
    to the legislature"?  My wife really got upset when I commented that
    our 22 month old son showed attributes for a promising career as a
    politican.

    -- Dave

Notice I said "look happy," not "be happy."

>   Notice I said "look happy," not "be happy."

    My mistake.

    -- Dave

	Jack, you're very good at assuming.

    
    re: .68
    
    >Maybe he's changed his ways.  Don't you believe in repentance?
    
    Yeah, Gerald....
    
    I'll believe that when you believe Jimmy Bakker repented....deal?