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| 1079.1 | I think i seen a poster once...? | POLAR::KFICZERE |  | Mon Jun 12 1995 07:06 | 4 | 
|  |     Was Carmin Appice in that group?? Weren't they like...Platnum Blonde
    look-alikes??
    
    -kev
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| 1079.2 |  | MPGS::MARKEY | The bottom end of Liquid Sanctuary | Mon Jun 12 1995 08:19 | 7 | 
|  |     
    Oooooh brother. That's about all I can say. Ooooooh brother.
    
    Well, I'll also say that I think I have a candidate for this
    year's Karen Ann Quinlan memorial award.
    
    -b
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| 1079.3 |  | BUSY::BUSY::SLABOUNTY | Trouble with a capital 'T' | Mon Jun 12 1995 08:32 | 3 | 
|  |     
    	Kids, eh??
    
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| 1079.4 | CARMINE WAS THE DRUMMER, CAN'T REMEMBER ANYONE ELSE | KDCA03::CDCUP_TORREN |  | Mon Jun 12 1995 09:13 | 6 | 
|  |     
    	/kev : I think your thinking of King Cobra, I think they had
    two albums, then the guitarist joined WASP, never heard from them
    again. 
    
    Bobby T
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| 1079.5 | ???? | POLAR::KFICZERE |  | Mon Jun 12 1995 10:15 | 4 | 
|  |     Yes, Bobby T, your right. Now that i have that cleared up i'm sure i've
    heard of King Crimson. Don't they have some amazing Horn dude??
    
    -kev
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| 1079.6 |  | WMOIS::MAZURKA | Son_of_A_Wicked_Good_Time | Mon Jun 12 1995 10:22 | 7 | 
|  |     Yes...
    Trevor HornDude..Played with them fer A_While then went to YES.
    A Fellow named Robert Frappe plays Guitar for KC.I think he might
    Suffer Paralysis_In_The_Legs tho,Because he's Always Sittin_Down
    when he Plays Out...
    
       Albert M
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| 1079.7 |  | BUSY::BUSY::SLABOUNTY | Trouble with a capital 'T' | Mon Jun 12 1995 10:31 | 3 | 
|  |     
    	Frippe, perhaps?
    
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| 1079.8 |  | MKOTS3::GRENIER |  | Mon Jun 12 1995 10:54 | 4 | 
|  |     Err...that's Fripp.   ...and I don't believe Trevor Horn _ever_
    played for Crimson...someone correct me if I'm wrong.
    
    Steve
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| 1079.9 | You A_Little Slow To_Day?? :_) | WMOIS::MAZURKA | Son_of_A_Wicked_Good_Time | Mon Jun 12 1995 11:06 | 4 | 
|  |     Ohh Don't be Going and Spoilin All my Fun,Steve.  :_)
    
      Albert M
    
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| 1079.10 |  | MKOTS3::GRENIER |  | Mon Jun 12 1995 11:12 | 2 | 
|  |     Oops...didn't catch the tone of the conversation...must still be 
    asleep today!  8^)
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| 1079.11 |  | POLAR::KFICZERE |  | Mon Jun 12 1995 13:39 | 5 | 
|  |     Yeah, Fripp, That's the dude i was thinking of. Not a horn dude
    tho...oh well...
    
    -kev [what time period are we talking about with KC ? 60's???]
         [just curious...they come up quite often in things i read..]
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| 1079.12 |  | MKOTS3::GRENIER |  | Mon Jun 12 1995 13:51 | 17 | 
|  | Here's Crimson's discography, not including box sets and collections:
    
In The Court Of The Crimson King  1969
In the Wake of Poseidon           1970
Lizard                            1970
Islands                           1971
Earthbound                        1972 (live album)
Larks' Tongues in Aspic           1973
Starless and Bible Black          1974
Red                               1974
USA                               1975 (live album)
Discipline                        1981
Beat                              1982
Three of a Perfect Pair           1984
Vrooom                            1994 (EP)
Thrak                             1995
                                                                     
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| 1079.13 |  | POLAR::KFICZERE |  | Mon Jun 12 1995 15:32 | 4 | 
|  |     Wow...that's quite a list! So...in under 10,000 words can you describe 
    what/who they sound like?? R&B,Rock,country,..???
    
    -kev [ now even MORE curious ]
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| 1079.14 |  | BUSY::BUSY::SLABOUNTY | Trouble with a capital 'T' | Mon Jun 12 1995 15:36 | 3 | 
|  |     
    	Progressive.
    
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| 1079.15 | Great Historical_Band. | WMOIS::MAZURKA | Son_of_A_Wicked_Good_Time | Mon Jun 12 1995 16:22 | 2 | 
|  |     ron and -kev..
    Check out MR1PST::MUSIC   (nte 298)
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| 1079.16 |  | FABSIX::I_GOLDIE | resident alien | Mon Jun 12 1995 16:38 | 8 | 
|  |     there's a big piece on king Krimson in a guitar rag a little while ago!
    
    they're definately not everyone's cup of tea...especially Robert
    Frippe's stuff!Personally,I think he's bit of a looney after seeing 
    interviews with him on telly in the past!
    
    
    							ian
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| 1079.17 |  | TPLAB::VLASIU | Sorin Vlasiu - Brussels, Belgium | Tue Jun 13 1995 03:59 | 11 | 
|  | Among the musicians who have been part of KC at different periods are:
Gregg Lake, John Wetton, Ian McDonald (later one of Foreigner founders),
Adrian Bellew (he was recently still in KC).
In the Court of the Crimson King is one of the best albums ever. In the Awake
of Poseidon sounds alike but is less impressive. The rest of the albums are
different each time depending on the period. Starless and Bible Black, Three
of a Perfect Pair are among those very interesting and which I had occasion
to listen.
Sorin
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| 1079.18 | dont mix KC and the Sunshine band.. | QCAV01::RONALD |  | Tue Jun 13 1995 04:24 | 8 | 
|  |     hey, hey that's quite a score for a day...
    good to know i'm still not the only one "living in the past"
    
    yes there are a great band and their "english" music was carried
    into YES, ELP ... John Lord could definately have fitted into 
    KC.. what with the classical over tones and bass/drum duets..
    i'll find another...
    ron
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| 1079.19 |  | MKOTS3::GRENIER |  | Tue Jun 13 1995 07:59 | 31 | 
|  |   >  Wow...that's quite a list! So...in under 10,000 words can you
  >  describe what/who they sound like?? R&B,Rock,country,..???
  >      
  >  -kev [ now even MORE curious ]
     
    ...and that's not counting their two boxsets, and three or four
    'best of' albums!  
    
    KC isn't very easy to describe.  They're a 70s progressive rock group,
    along the lines of ELP, Genesis, Yes, Camel, Gentle Giant, but with a
    sound all their own.  I can't say they sound _like_ any other artist,
    except maybe solo-Fripp.  If you want an in-depth description check
    out:  http://prog.ari.net/prog/GEPR/k.html#KINGCRIMSON on the WWW.
    
    Other notable members are Bill Bruford and Tony Levin.  KC varies a lot
    depending on time period, but it all has the distinct KC sound.  'In 
    the Court of the Crimson King' is probably their best early-era album.
    'Red' is the best of the mid-era Crimson (Larks Tongues, Red, Starless),
    and 'Discipline' is the best of the 80's-era KC.  IMHO, of course. 
    
    KC reformed last year as a double-trio: Robert Fripp & Adrian Belew
    on guitars, Tony Levin & Trey Gunn on bass/Chapman Stick, and Bill
    Bruford & Tony Mastelotto on drums.  Their new release 'Thrak' is
    excellent!  Kind of combines elements of 'Red' and 'Discipline'.
    
    See if a friend will loan you an album, or go buy one of them, but
    remember, keep an open mind!  KC is _usually_ an acquired taste, 
    but is definately worth the effort!
    
    Steve
         
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| 1079.20 |  | WONDER::REILLY | Sean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375 | Tue Jun 13 1995 08:04 | 27 | 
|  |     
>    Wow...that's quite a list! So...in under 10,000 words can you describe 
>    what/who they sound like??
    
    Absolutely impossible.  
    
    "Discipline" is probably their crowning achievement, but it is a music
    characterized by the 80's lineup, which is different than earlier 
    incarnations of the group.
    
    "Lark's Tongue in Aspic" and "Starless and Bible Black" are probably
    what you'd find if you could look up KC in the dictionary.  Personally,
    I find "Islands" to be the best of this period ("Ladies of the Road"
    is a classic example of gritty leachery without resorting to the 
    obviousnes that many of today's inarticulate HM bands do).
    
    "In the Court..." is their most accessible (leaving out "Moonchild")
    in the sense that if you like ELP, Yes, early Moody Blues, this album
    is not a huge leap.  "In the Wake..." is a similar, but they are
    starting to take more risks ("Cat Food").
    
    KC == Fripp + whoever, and it changes every album.  Fripp can wail when
    he wants to, no question.  For a real barn-burning example, get Brian
    Eno's "Here Come The Warm Jets" (meaning left as an exercise for the
    reader) and listen to "Baby's On Fire."
    
    - Sean
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| 1079.21 |  | DAGWUD::FLATTERY |  | Tue Jun 13 1995 08:45 | 2 | 
|  |     ..is this the same King Crimson who've been around for 100 years...
    geez..some of you really need to get out more often.......;')........./k
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| 1079.22 |  | MPGS::MARKEY | The bottom end of Liquid Sanctuary | Tue Jun 13 1995 09:13 | 34 | 
|  |     
    "Baby's on Fire"... I *LOVE* that frackin' tune. Check out the 801
    version of it sometime. Man, I *LOVE* that frackin' tune... oh,
    did I mention... I *LOVE* that frackin' tune...
    
    ANYWAY... KC are wonderful. I'm not sure whether Karen is saying
    that those of who listen to KC need to get out more often or those
    who aren't aware of them need to... but just last night, my CD
    player spun Green Day, Nine Inch Nails, Morphine, King Crimson,
    an old Gentle Giant album (Octopus) and a Jaco Pastorius era
    Weather Report album (Heavy Weather). I get out just fine, thanks...
    :-)
    
    Just a couple weeks ago, I saw King Crimson at the Orpheum in Boston.
    Current KC members include Adrian Belew (check out his solo stuff
    and his stuff with "The Bears") and Bill Bruford (Yes) -- who
    is one of my favorite drummers on planet earth -- as well as Tony
    Levin, who is both a friend and the single greatest influence on
    my own bass/stick playing. Tony's other well-known gig is with
    Peter Gabriel, although he's also played with the "sub-Yes"
    (Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman and Howe), Pink Floyd (on the Momentary
    Lapse of Reason album), Peter Frampton (!!), the Eggs, Robbie
    Robertson (ex-The Band) and a host of others.
    
    The new KC album wanders dangerously close to alternative rock,
    and in my not-so-humble-opinion, they blow the shiite out of
    any of the Pearl/Jizz reference poseurs out there... if you
    ever want to see *real* players who can play something other
    than 4/4 and rehashed blues scales, check these guys out...
    especially live. It is mind boggling.
    
    Oh, and I forgot to mention that I *LOVE* Baby's on Fire...
    
    -b
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| 1079.23 |  | POLAR::KFICZERE |  | Tue Jun 13 1995 09:18 | 7 | 
|  |     Wow, thanks for the pointers guys.I'll keep my eyes and ears peeled for
    some.I find it very hard to believe that i have never come into
    contact with KC before.Oh well...just when i thought i knew
    everything...
    
    thanxx,
    -kev
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| 1079.24 |  | MKOTS3::GRENIER |  | Tue Jun 13 1995 09:26 | 6 | 
|  |     re: Brian
    
    Have you heard Tony Levin's newest release, 'World Diary'?  If so,
    how is it?
    
    Steve
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| 1079.25 |  | MPGS::MARKEY | The bottom end of Liquid Sanctuary | Tue Jun 13 1995 09:34 | 9 | 
|  |     
    Steve,
    
    No, I haven't heard "World Diary" yet, although I'm led to
    believe that it is similar in nature to the Stick piece Tony
    did on "Plus From Us"... with some other goodies, guest
    shots thrown in...
    
    -b
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| 1079.26 | ....and listen to something other than old Ozzy...;').. | DAGWUD::FLATTERY |  | Tue Jun 13 1995 11:21 | 3 | 
|  |     brian....re: my meaning....i was saying those that haven't heard of
    KC ought to get out more often........they've been around forEVAH!..;')
    .../k
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| 1079.27 | Cognitive Dissonance | WONDER::REILLY | Sean / Alpha Servers DTN:223-4375 | Tue Jun 13 1995 11:28 | 14 | 
|  |     
    > "Baby's on Fire"... I *LOVE* that frackin' tune. Check out the 801
    > version of it sometime. Man, I *LOVE* that frackin' tune... oh,
    > did I mention... I *LOVE* that frackin' tune...
    
    Yeah, I have the 801 Live version of that...  and that's not even the
    best tune on that record!
    
    Another great dangerously-close-to-alternative set of stuff was Fripp's
    League of Gentlemen (*not* to be confused with his League of Crafty
    Guitarists).  Sara-Lee (Gang of Four, B-52's) ripps some mean bass,
    but it's Fripp's guitar that kills me - he's downright *dancable*!
    
    - Sean
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| 1079.28 | I DIDN'T CATCH IT... | PATE::SCHIAVONE | Whenever I smile, I smile the most... | Wed Jun 14 1995 09:27 | 4 | 
|  | 
	Was Adrien Belew in the lineup a few weeks back???
	/Cap'n Quad
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| 1079.29 |  | MPGS::MARKEY | The bottom end of Liquid Sanctuary | Wed Jun 14 1995 09:55 | 6 | 
|  |     
    RE: .28
    
    Yes, and he played and sang great!
    
    -b
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