Conference napalm::heavy_metal

    'live in new york' is brilliant with such classics as
    
    the illinois enema bandit
    titties and beer
    honey,dont you want a man like me
    
    also,try 'them or us' for steve vai on "stunt guitar"..
    
    jim.
     

I also like Zappa and find his some of his songs quite heavy. He covers a wide
range in music and remains one of the very best guitar players (and also
song writer). "..Garage .. part I" is one of the albums I like the most
(check out "Catholic girls" :-) ). He likes to shock quite often.

Sorin

    Joes Garage II,III are cool too. They complete the story of poor Joe's
    life. "Just another band from LA" is an excellent old one MOI.

     Can someone tell me which album Steve Vai play guitar for
    Frank Zappa?    Thank you.
    
    
    
    Kham

    "Them or Us" is one album with Steve Vai on it. Ill have to dig for the
    info to see what else he is on.
    
    /bob

    I Thank him for helping Alice Cooper in 69.
    He was supposed to produce the first album but never showed up in the
    studio.Dynamo Hum was the first "risky"song I ever heard. Years Ago.
    
                                  Crazy_Al

     if you like F.Z get Sheik Yerbouti!!!!! It's one of his best...
    w/ Terry Bozzio,Patrick O'Hearn,Adrian Belew and other dynamite 
    players....the Bob Dylan impersonation by A.B. is one of the
    funniest things I ever heard in my life.
    -Bilbo the Magnificent

    re .4
     Vai is on :
    	       1. Ship Arriving too late to save a drowning witch.
    		(yes!! this is the album name - the black/white one)
    
    	       2. Them or Us
    
    	       3. You are what you is
    
    	       4. Man from Utopia
    
    	       5. Tinseltown rebellion
    
    	       6. Guitar
    
               7. You cant do that on stage anymore vols 1/2/4 (some tracks
    only)
    
    	       8. As An Am (available bootlegg)
    
    Thanks to Steve (loadsazappa) jackson for this list....
    
    jim.
    
    		

    I'm a big-time Zappa fan.
    
    My favorites are:
    
    	1) Overnite Sensation (which I listened to this morning)
    	2) You Are What You Is
    	3) Apostrophe
    	4) The one with "Sofa", "Po-jama People" (can't believe I don't
    	   remember the title)
    
    I think my favorite song though is 50-50 from Overnite Sensation.
    
    The guitar solo in that one just blows me away. It's so off-the-wall
    and yet it fits perfectly.  Not to mention the fact that it follows
    two ballsy solos by George Duke on keys and Jean Luc Ponty on violin.
    He had to come up with something great to follow those solos and he
    did.
    
    The first note sounds like a guitar blowing it's nose (if a guitar
    had a nose and could do that...)  ;-)

    RE .9
    
    One Size Fits All
    
    /Bob

    Just heard the news that Frank has Prostate Cancer....Im totally
    bummed out. They gave no indication on his prognosis except to say
    he would be fine. At this point he has his good days and bad days.
    Prostate cancer is one of the easier cancers to get rid of, as long 
    as they caught it before it spreads anywhere else. Ill post any news I
    hear. For more info see the Zappa conference.
    
    Bob...who feels the world would be a different place without FZ :*{
    
    

    Has anybody heard any news lately on how Frank's doin with the
    Prostate Cancer...I was hopin he'd run for President back before
    the health problems came up. I hope he gets better!
    
    Bob
    

    "Down in Joe's garage, we didnt have no dope or LSD, but a coupla
    quarts of beer would fix it so the intonation would not offend
    your ear"
    
    I need an FZ fix when I leave today...Hmmm...probably Overnite
    Sensation!
    

    "I know I ain't cute, and my voice is Kapoot.  But that's alright
    people.  I'm crazy enough to sing to you."

    "Looks just like a telefunken U47......WiTh LeaTher?"
    
    "Billy was a mountain.....Ethel was a tree hanging off of his shoulder"

    From my other fav FZ LP:
    
    	"Coz what they do, in Washington
         They just takes care of #1
    	 And #1 ain't you - un uh
    	 You ain't even #2"

Dynamo HUMMMMMMMMMMM!

              
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	I heard that he was operated on, and that he's currently 
	doing "ok".   But you know how cancer can be: up and down.
	
	Keep the faith, maybe he'll recover from this.
	
	Ken

      I don't do any Zappa except for Joes' Garage.I love this
    album not just for the tongue in cheek sarcastic humor but 
    also for the music itself.How many of us musicians can relate
    to that garage scene in Canoga Park.The album is a classic
    but what I'd really like to know is "why does it hurt when I P**?"
    
                                       Chic Nubian

    > but what I'd really like to know is "why does it hurt when I P**?"
    
    This is a very commonly asked question.  Before I go into detailed
    explanation of a number of possible sources for your discomfort,
    I'd like to relate to you the following anecdote:
    
    
    A woman came into a bar and asked the bartender for some sort of a
    mixed drink.  As the bartender grabbed a glass with one hand and
    a fistful of ice cubes with the other, the woman interrupted him
    and asked, politely, "Could you please use the ice tongs to put ice
    in my glass?  I have a hangup about men using their hands to handle
    foodstuffs and such.  You know, cause you have to, well, you know,
    when you go to the bathroom."
    
    The bartender, understanding completely, replied "Not to worry, M'am,
    not only does state law require me to wash my hands after going to
    the bathroom, but we've instituted additional standards of personal
    hygiene here for the protection of our customers.  You see, all male
    bartenders are required, at the start of their shift, to tie a piece
    of string around their you-know-what.  We use the string to pull it
    out of our pants and hold it while going to the bathroom so that our
    hands never touch it, thereby guaranteeing additional cleanliness.
    You've got nothing to worry about M'am."
    
    The woman replied, "Yes, that's all well and good, but how do you
    put it back in your pants when you're done?"
    
    "Oh, yes, that.  Well, M'am, we use the ice tongs."
    
    
    That said, I can only tell you that if it hurts when you pee, then
    you must be doing it wrong!
    
    :-)
    
    -- 
    Kevin 
    

    you are too much kev......remind me to tell you a different version of
    a similar joke sometime...K??......../k

    
    Sure thing...
    
    BTW, did I ever mention how nice it was finally getting to meet
    you last week?
    
    -- 
    Kevin

    
    Speaking of guitarists...  Frank Zappa sits high on my list of the
    all time great players along with Satch, Vai, EVH, etc...
    
    Most people only hear the insane lyrics at the surface and never
    bother to dig deep enough to discover this man's awesome talents,
    including the talent of surrounding himself with other talented
    musicians.
    
    -- 
    Kevin 

    The radio announced the death of Frank Zappa on Saturday 4th of
    December. He died of a prostate cancer at the age of 52.
    Rest in peace Frank Zappa.
    
    Sorin

Actually I'm not a big Zappa fan, but he's done more for R&R and Heavy Metal by
standing up and making a public fool of the PMRC than most musicians ever could.


I respect him greatly for that and don't feel that making fun of him now that
he's dead is fair or appropriate.

    didn't he discover Steve Vai?

    re: Mike
    
    He didn't exactly "discover" Vai, but I think Zappa did give him his
    first big break.  Apparently Vai impressed him by doing some very
    accurate transcriptions of some of Zappa's songs and sending them to
    him.  Zappa subsequently hired Vai to play in his band.
    
    Like some others, I wasn't a big Frank Zappa fan myself, but I do
    respect a lot of what he did.  In the interviews I've seen with him, he
    seemed to be very straightforward and honest about how he felt about
    things.  He also wrote and performed some interesting music over the
    years (not all of which I like..).  I'm sorry to see him go at such a
    young age and under the painful circumstances he died under.
    
    Greg
                                                                

    |: "Valley Girl, Valley Girl, She's a..."  :|
    
    "Oh, like fer sure"
    "Like, a, Gag me with a spoon"

    "and his name lives on forever"....the illinois enema bandit (frank's
    certainly will, if not the bandit) 8-).
    
    live in new york is brilliant !!!
    
    jim.

    Frank died from cancer...
    
                       stig

    Frank was one of my favorite "guitar players". I saw him "live" a while
    back when Vai played in his band. 
    
                        stig

    
         A recently discovered asteroid in orbit between
    Mars and Jupiter has been named 'Frank Zappa'. 
    
    Appropriate in many angles.
    
    
    Kev --
    

    I heard it was called "Zappa Frank", but either way it was named after
    him.