Conference napalm::heavy_metal

    Typical of you GTI. Always moaning. Why do you always talk about your
    homosexuality,er,music anyways? Ho!ho!
    
    Stick to buying records. (Yes,those 12" black things). I`m a luddite,
    and i refused to get a compact disc.
    
    Joe Strummer.
    

|    Stick to buying records. (Yes,those 12" black things). I`m a luddite,
|    and i refused to get a compact disc.
        
        You mean they still sell those things ?!?!?!?!?
        
        METALord"�

    Too right they do. In England,anyways. You Muricans have got no
    kultcha anyways,and wouldn`t appreciate the marvellous plastic disc.
    
    Joe Strummer.
    

    re: .0
    
    If you forget to "X" that stupid box and send the card in, I think you
    can write "RETURN TO SENDER" on the package and send it back to 'em.
    At least the BMG CD club works that way.
    
    Ken
    

    
    	There's some sort of liquidation sale going on at Record^mania in
    	Framingham, route 9 eastbound.
    
    	Why would anyone shop at the store right now the street?  The one
    	time I was there in curiosity mode I found the prices to be 
    	relativily/ridiculously high.
    
    	- Jim

    Recordable CD's (WORM) are expected to run about $20!

    Remember all that bullsh!t the music industry gave us about how
    indestructible CD's were when they first came out? If they are so
    indestructible then why do about half of my cd's have atleast 1
    skip on them? No it's not because my dog uses them as his toys; I'm
    EXTREMELY careful with them. I guess the most conclusive proof I
    have that CD's are by no means indestructible is that I heard the
    extended version of a song on the radio yesterday (unfortunately it
    wasn't meant to be extended, but the skips made the song last about
    2 minutes longer than usual).
     
    -Jeff
    

>    Remember all that bullsh!t the music industry gave us about how
>    indestructible CD's were when they first came out? If they are so
>    indestructible then why do about half of my cd's have atleast 1
>    skip on them? 

CDs really *are* fairly indestructible! I've been into CDs since 1984 or so,
when they first came out. Between my roommate and myself, we currently own 
well over a thousand CDs. Know how many of them skip? None! Know how many I've
had to return as defective? None!

I firmly believe that almost all CD skipping problems are caused by the 
players, not by defective CDs!!! (Especially, Jeff, if HALF your CDs skip,
that definitely says its the player, not the disks themselves....)

alan

    
    re: .7
    
    Maybe your CD player is:
    
    a. Out of alignment
    b. really old and the laser is losing it's gonads.
    c. needs cleaning.

    
    or maybe you just look like a complete sucker, so they give you all the
    defective CDs!!
    
    8^)
    
    Flip

There are very great chances that the CD player has a problem. A friend of mine
has a good CD player but which skips or gets confused when playing long CDs
(over 60 mins). There are also some new CDs which are already bad from the
begining (I had 2).

Sorin

    
    
    	Re: The earlier discussion on record/tape/cd clubs...  
    
    	You *can* write "return to sender" when receiving material not 
    ordered from those clubs.  To avoid this hassle in the future and
    postage (from returning those monthly order cards) simply pen a letter 
    saying you're sick of the hassle.  Ask to have the usual information 
    sent but without the stipulation where if the card is not returned in
    x amount of days, the "selection of the month" will be sent.
    
    
    Paul

    RE:  CD's skipping ....
    
    You supposed to play 'em on 45rpm ('cuz they're small) or on 33rpm
    ('cuz they're really like an album ...) ?  Use a new needle, they won't
    skip ...   8^)
    
    Scary

    It could be the player, I actually don't own one; I usually just use
    my roommates. I just thought it was interesting that radio stations
    are seeing a lot of skips in recent days. I've heard atleast 4 songs
    skip on the radio in recent months.
     
    -Jeff
    

    re .12:
    
    Will a place like Columbia even listen to you if you ask them to stop
    forcing you to send those cards back every month? They probably wont
    seeing as that's how they make a good deal of their business, from
    people who forget to return the cards. If it is possible to get them
    to stop sending those "if you do nothing, you will get..." cards, tell
    me and I'll do it! 
     
    thanks,
    -Jeff
    

    
    
    	Re: Jeff
    
    	Yup, Columbia will listen to you, they listened to me.  A friend
    of mine told me about this.  They kept sending him stuff because he
    never returned the cards.  He kept sending the packages back, unopened
    of course.  I think the packages say "return postage guaranteed".  They
    grew tired of wasting postage and put him on a "special" list which
    meant he didn't have to return the cards.
    
    	I figured I'd try writing them a letter saying I was sick of wasting 
    time, postage, etc.  They said fine and now I receive all their regular
    info but the order card has nothing about "if you do not return.....". 
     
    	Give it a shot.
    
    
    Paul
    

    I agree with checking your players.  I've only known one person that
    had to return a CD that wouldn't play (defective pit).
    
    Mike

    re .16
    
    Paul,
    
       Thanks for the advice. I'll send Columbia that letter. 
    
    -Jeff
    

    
    	RE: Paul
    
    	Yeah, that is good advice ... I think I'll ask them to do that for
    	me too!!
    
    	RE: CD's skipping
    
    	I have over 300 now, and in 5 years I've never had one skip on me
    	either.  I only handle the CD's by the edge/middle, I never leave
    	them lying around, and I always return them to the jewel box when
    	I'm done listening to them.  The only scratches I have on mine
    	are from lending some out to my sister's ex-boyfriend.
    
    
    	And as far as CD's skipping on the radio, you've got to remember
    	a couple things.  For one, their players are going constantly and
    	probably don't have a chance to be cared for as far as cleaning
    	dust out etc.  And for another, I'm sure they don't exactly hand-
    	le the things with kid gloves.
    
    	They are virtually indestructible, but they still deserve a little
    	care.
    
    							GTI

    
    
    	I've "cured" skipping cd's before by using some of 'dem 'dere 
    cd wipes.
    
    
    	Re: Jeff and Shawn
    
    	I'll check at home to see if I have a copy of the letter I sent.
    If it worked once.....
    
    
    Paul
    

    re .20
     
    How's this for a letter:
    
    Dear Columbia:
    
         You are a bunch of sleazebags whose best way of making money is by
    trying to ship trash to people who forget to mail back your stupid
    cards. Where do you get these selections of the month? Did your
    grandmother record that SH#@$? STOP SENDING ME THOSE F7324IN CARDS!
     
    thanks,
    
    xxxxx
    
    
    how's that? maybe I'll try and be a little more forceful than that :)
    

    
    
    	Couldn't find the letter but I did find their response.  Ask to 
    be put on the "preferred members" plan.
    
    
    Paul

    
    	Are there any used CD stores in the Worcester area?
    

    
      I know a place in the Worcester Gallaria, All CD's $10.  Some
    cheaper....
    
    

    
    	Well, I can get brand new CD's for $7 each from BMG ... but the
    	selection isn't always the best.
    
    	So I'm looking to beat that ... maybe $2-$4 each.
    

    
    RE: -1   More like $8 now with the stupid postage increase <sniff>
    
    but seriously most of the used CD places I've seen still sell them for
    at least $6-8...guess they figure they are giving you a buy off of
    $12-$15 but still...
    
    /j

    Re .23
    Shawn,
    
      There are 2 used CD stores right near my apartment in Worcester.
    They are both on Highland St (Rt 9).  Right across from the
    Sole Proprietor restaraunt.  One's called Revolutions and the other
    is Al-Bums.  Revolutions has a fairly large selection of local
    music...both places have about the same collection of used stuff
    and about the same prices (I think they're owned by the same people).
    But you can find copies of the GFY album there !!! woo hoo !!
    Laters ...
    
    Shane, who is feeling very awake this morning ... weird feeling

    
    RE: -1
    
    Shane,
    
    Someone told me about a week ago that Revolutions is having a going out
    of business sale...
    
    and I'm sure it is not a result of them stocking GFY's CD either! :^)
    
    /jen

    Shane is just jealous cuz GFY hasn't sold 7,000 copies of their CD
    like Blue Steel did!

    Re: -1
      uh...yeahrrrrr 

    
    	Do you have any other landmarks I can use to find Revolutions?
    
    	Like, would I be better off going up to Rte. 290 and getting
    	off at Rte. 9, and which way would I go?
    
    	Or am I better off going by Holy Cross via Rte. 146 and hitting
    	Rte. 9 that way?
    

    
    GTI - Haven't you heard the hazards of asking /jen for directions???
    
    Anyway, I believe revolutions is up near the 9 / 70 area but I would
    call for direx or maybe Shane since he lives nearby could give ya a
    hint!
    
    /jen

    
    	Oh, I know ... I followed your directions once.
    
    	Headed to The Strand and was pretty close to Johnston before I
    	realized I was probably going the wrong way.  8^)
    

    Re: .33
    
    Shawn,
    
      Follow the yellow brick road and the little singing munchkins
    and you'll get there.  Or if that doesn't work just take 290
    to Route 9 exit (like you were going to the Centrum).  Go west
    on Route 9 for at most a mile and its on the left side of the
    street.  Look for Acapulco (aka the Arch, Aca-puko, that place
    with the bad food that stays open til 3am) and look for Store 24.
    It is on the block between these two places right across the
    street from the Sole Proprietor.  Hope that helps...
    
    Shane, who gives better directions when drawn on a napkin