Conference napalm::heavy_metal

    hum..
    
    	the 70's had more of the Dis..I can't say it! Anyway, Rock had a
    few bright moments in the 70's...KISS is my most memorable band along
    with such bands as Foghat, ARS, and Nugent.
    
    Any more...
    
    B.A.

     What about Aerosmith,Janis Joplin,Led Zeppelin,Van Halen?
    
      They where all part of the 70's and VERY influencial for rock bands
    today!
      I think it was the last half of the sixties and the first half of the
    seventies.
    There was also another wave of rock that was the center of what rock
    bands look like and sound like today......Around 1983-4 with the likes
    of Motley Crue,Ratt,Quiet Riot,Dokken..etc.
    
         At least that's what *I* think.
    
                               Frizkid
    

    I'm surprised so far.  Of the 4 decades, popular vote seems to say that
    the '70s was the weakest of the 4.  I was surprised when I heard it
    too.  Most of my fav bands are from that decade since I was a teen
    then.
    
    Mike

    If you are going to say the best ROCK of the decade I would say the 70s
    because POP rock (Glam rock) and a bunch of other garbage was
    introduced in the 80s and 60s was boring
    

        In all  honesty, the 60's were far from boring.  You had Jimi
        Hendrix, Johnny Winter and Edgar Winter, The Allman Brothers,
        Pat Travers (Although he  may  have  been  earyly  70's), Lou
        Reed, and any number of great R&B/Rock groups.
        
        METALord"'

    I gotta vote for the 70's ... 'course that was when I was getting into
    playing music too.  Groups like ... Sabbath, Nugent, Bad Company, Deep
    Purple, Hendrix, Trower, Montrose, Boston, Kiss, Styx, Skynyrd, Mother's
    Finest, Blue Oyster Cult, Grand Funk ... whew, there was some real
    power there !  That was the lo-tech era.  I've you noticed, as the
    years went by and the technology improved, many of these groups fell
    off the boat - betrayed their roots, and lost it.  
    
    Scary

    
    I'd honestly have to say the 1980's was the best decade for metal.
    An incredible amount of different metal genres emerged. Metal even
    made it into the top 40.
    
    /prc

    I don't think that there is a particular decade that can be marked as
    the 'best decade'.  Rather I think small periods during each decade,
    all put together would be more appropriate:
    
       Late 50s (help)  Elvis Presley and the emergence of black performers
    
       1968-69  -  Hendrix, Black Sabbath, Pink Floyd, Deep Purple
                   all with a different message, all influential.
    
       1973-74  -  Emergence of bands like Uriah Heep, Sweet, Kiss, Thin
                   Lizzy, etc.
    
       1977-78  -  Aeorsmith, AC/DC etc.
    
       1981-83  -  NWOBHM,  Iron Maiden in particular.
    
       1984-86  -  The Thrash/Speed genres, Metallica, Anthrax, Slayer,
                   etc, real HM is here.
    
       1989-90  -  The new wave - Jane's Addiction, Faith No More, Extreme,
                   Scatterbrain, Dread Zeppelin (the innovators)
    
    
    Remember that every good period also included crap!  Poseur rock such
    as Bon-Jovi and Warrant also arrived in the mid 80's.  The Rolling
    Stones thrived in the mid 70s.  And so on.  My list is not
    comprehensive, I have even missed some of my own favourite bands out
    (Queensryche, Scorpions, etc)  because I cannot point to the exact date
    they were formed.  Also some of the bands mentioned were not
    necessarilly formed during the periods I associate them with, but this
    is the period I remember them best for.
    
    
    GAZ  

      My vote would have to be for the 70's era. I think that is when your
    harder rock really started to come out and feel that this was very
    influencial(sp?) for the up and coming metal bands. As far as bands for
    that era most of them have already been said.
    						The KER
    

    
    
    The 50's.
    
    People don't realize what Buddy Holly did to influence many other
    great performers - he was way ahead of his time.  I would even go so
    far as to pinpoint him as the greatest rocking roller ever lived,
    with the most influence!!  Also, being one of the first, if not the
    first white band to play the Apollo in New York, they crossed the rigid
    color barrier that was around back then.
    
    Of course, there was also Chuck Berry, Little Richard and Jerry Lee
    Lewis.
    
    Elvis was just a glorified poseur!   8*)     IMHO.
    
    Goddess F.

    I guess I'm still an old f*rt as I go with the 70's....
    
    As GAZ said about bands like Thin Lizzy etc... they are the ones
    I feel influenced me the most.
    
    I have pretty negative feelings about the `DEATH METAL' bands as
    I don't see the point, but that is an opinion.
    
    I hope that the 90's will be the best decade, but that depends on
    if people are infulenced by their own thoughts on music or follow
    whatever the record companies, fads, say is good.
    
    FYI the Scorpions were first together in 1968!
    
    Bonzo

    Re: .10
    
    Interesting point goddess F.  Not too much credit is given to the few
    that started it all!
    
    Mike

    Late 70's cuz thats when Van Halen arrived!

    '60s.  No doubt about it!!
    
    Chris D.

    Nah, has to be the '30s.  Cos thats when Okaneepee Skiffle Band was
    formed!
    
    
      GAZ

    
    Definately the 80's by far.  All my favs put out their best stuff in
    that time, though the late 70's was getting pretty good with Boston,
    Styx, etc.  Queensryche, Icon, Wild Dogs, Leatherwolf, Dio, Ozzy,
    Stryper, Yngwie, Maiden....  tons of great stuff in the 80's!!  I hate
    most 70's and earlier music with the exception of Rush and the other
    stuff I've mentioned.
    

    
    Rob, we agreed. Something must be wrong. 8-)
    
    /peter

    
    Did we?  I didn't even read your note :').  I went through them
    and selected a few at random to see if anybody else said 80's but
    nobody did.  Guess I missed yours... I'll go peek :').
    

    Rob
    
    You forgot TNT dammit!!!

    Damn, I knew I forgot someone important, then again I knew I couldn't
    possibly get them all, I'd be here forever naming Metallica, Megadeth,
    Testament, Anthrax, Flotsam and Jetsam, King Diamond, Mercyful Fate,
    Dokken, MacAlpine, Racer X, Vinnie Moore, etc etc etc...
    

    Rob, you forgot Annihilator!
    
    
    
    GAZ

        Oh alright,  if I had to vote for any decade it would have to
        be the 80's.   All  I  kept  seeing  through  that decade was
        tape/albums/cd's being pumped out by  the  record  companies.
        Some good, some not so good.  
        
        My earlier reply was basically stating  that the 60's weren't
        boring.  Nor were the 70's.  There were some great artists in
        those  two  decades  as  well,  but  just not  as  diverse  a
        selection as there was in the 80's.
        
        Clear as mud ? :^)
        
        METALord"�

    
    	I'm left wondering what the 90's will hold...should be interesting.
    
    	/prc

    
    
     ........or not.
    
    
    
    GAZ

    65 thru 75..
    
    
        Crazy_It's_A_decade_right?_AL

    re -1, if that's the case then
    75 thru 85..
    
    Jeff

    
    	Opps, sorry, '64 through to the present, some earlier Elvis stuff, 
    	actually "his" songs done by the performers who did them originally, 
    	early blues...
    
    	This doesn't include everything during this period, i.e., the
    	"disco sucks" period, and a lot of other crap but hoepfully you
    	know what I mean...
    
    	- Jim

    DISCO does not SUCK! Disco MTfInferno and Stayin Alive are still tops
    with me... Then I put in some King Diamond
    

        In all  honesty, you have to look at D*sco and todays Tot 40.
        They're basically the  same  if  you  ask  me,  since they're
        geared more for the teenie  bopper  dance  crowd.   They both
        have `some' merit.  What I don't know though. . .
        
        Personally, I went for  the  Herb Alpert and Supertramp style
        music.
        
        METALord"'

    
    Disco's out, Murder's in!
    

        Whew !   For a minute there I thought you were gonna' kill me
        or are you just feeling your oats this morning Flip ?  :^)
        
        METALord"�

    
    ST roolz!

    I used to go to HEAVY METAL concerts (it seamed like) every other week
    during the late 70's. Unbeleivable shows/performances by groups like
    Blue Oyster Cult, Rush, Sabath, Nugent, etc. That's when these groups
    were in their prime. Their were so many quality bands back then that
    this era has to of had the greatest impact.
    
    
    
    Mark

    I`d have to vote for 1983 as the best year in metal,`cos that`s when
    Hellhammer,Slayer,Metallica,Destruction,Helloween (they started off
    as a death metal band) all had demo`s out.
    
    Eeeeh,it was great fun trying to find the fastest and heaviest bands
    about. My favourites were Black Metal by Venom,and the first Acid
    album.
    
    Joe Strummer.
    

    
    In reply to >.10 "Elvis was a glorified poseur"
    
    What colour is the sky in your world ?  8*)
    
    IMO the late sixties and early seventies was the best time for music.
    Bands like Peter Greens Fleetwood Mac, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, CCR
    and Deep Purple.
    
                                    Woody 

    
    
    I don't get it Woody...  ?
    
    
    Goddess

    I thought Toenail was Woody?

    
    Toenail is Alan!

    Sheesh Buck, where did you learn biology?  Degrassi High?
    
    Toenails are made up mostly of calcium!  The average human body has
    a non-existant wood content!  Well with some noted exceptions (^8*.
    
    
    GAZ

    Toenail looks like Woody Allan. 
    
    

    
    >.10 Elvis was a glorified poseur
    
    To quote John Lennon 
    "Before Elvis there was nothing"
    
    Elvis Presely was rock `n roll. Buddy Holly was okay but wasn`t the
    king.

    No. MArty McFly was Rock and Roll, Chuck Berry copied him.

    
    
    Well, all that means is John Lennon and my opinions differ.  There was
    PLENTY before Elvis..  as a matter of fact, if there was nothing before
    Elvis, then he wouldn't have had anything to sing!!
    
    Elvis was the first poseur, in the rock and roll world.   IMHO!
    
    
    Goddess

    
    Who knows (knew)  more about rock`n roll the goddess or JL. ?
    Elvis was the best rock`n roll singer of them all.
    I think we`ll have to agree to disagree. 8*)
    
                             Woody

    Elvis Is THE King! 8)
    SueJ

    
    
    Hey Woodsy, its all a matter of opinion, not who knows more about rock
    and roll.
    
    I'm sure my opinion matches that of another legendary musician, and you
    can't sit and argue which legend knew more about rock and roll, you
    know what I'm saying?  
    
    Besides, I could know more about music than Lennon, who knows??  8*)

    Gee F., lennon is daid so I guess you do know more about music.

    
    
     I would have to say the...............

    
    
    
    
                               50's
    

    -1
    Ultra Cheeese, dude!

    
    The best decade for rock is questionable but...
    
    The best decade for METAL has to be the 80's. Anyone that disagree's is
    over the edge!
    
    1980 - Intro of Iron Maiden
    1981 - Ozzy and Randy Rhoads, Slayer
    1982 - Exodus, 
    1983 - Metallica
    1984 - Anthrax
    1985 - Megadeth
    1986 - Metallica without Burton
    1987 - Testament, Helloween, Flotsam and Jetsam begin to break thru
    1988 - The first speed metal band goes double platnum
    1989 - a tsunami of new thrash metal comes into view
    
    plus others that began in the 70's also helped te 80's (i.e. Priest,
    and sabbath and the like)
    
    Chris

    Exodus before Metallica??Thats funny 'cause Metallica always gets the
    recognition for starting thrash.Iron Maiden started getting into the
    UK charts in 1979.

    The first Metallica and Slayer demo`s were early 1983,perhaps (this
    is stretching my memory back along way) late 1982.Certainly not before
    that. Bonded by Blood the album came out in 1984,though i dunno when
    Exodus did their first demo.(I haven`t heard it).
    
    As for "the band who started thrash",surely that has to go to Venom
    whose "Welcome To Hell" and "Black Metal" albums came out in 1982.
    
    Though personally speaking,i reckon it was a little known Belgium band
    called Acid whose 1981 album ("Maniac?") could be called thrash.
    
    Joe Strummer (Connoiseur of early thrash).
    
    

    Man-O-War started thrash long beofre the whole lot!

    Balderdash. "Battle Hymns" came out in 1982,and there`s not  ONE song
    on that you could even vaguely call thrash. (Great album,though).
    
    JOe Strummer.
    

    Raven have also opened the way to faster and rougher rock. Metallica
    has even opened for Raven in the early '80s.
    On the other side of metal, Queensryche are one of the major influences
    for the eighties.
    
    Sorin

    Raven`s first couple of albums were great. Check out 'Rock `til you
    Drop' and "Live at the Inferno".
    
    I think i`m right in saying Metallica supported them round about
    October 31 1983,(it was a halloween gig). Metallica also supported 
    Venom round about then in America also.
    
    Joe Strummer.
    

Other considered opinion has it that Motorhead were the "godfathers of thrash"
beginning with their Ace of Spades album. 

But I'm not sure this is worth discussion. Thrash was bound to happen as 
people started to experiment and expand on existing styles. I reckon that
no one person/group invented thrash, and that it eveloved through the
experiments of a number of different people of like minds.

Enough philosophy for this time in the morning...

Best decade in rock? As someone way back says, it depends which type of
rock you mean. I'd agree that for modern metal it has to be the '80s.
For the originators of this musical form, you can't tie it down to a specific
decade as it developed during the late '60s and early '70s (Hendrix,
Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Black Sabbatch, et al).

Keef.